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    It appears we are all in agreement. The lot will be expropriated and turned into a park.

    @Ken, what was the most challenging part of this project so far in your mind?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    It appears we are all in agreement. The lot will be expropriated and turned into a park.

    @Ken, what was the most challenging part of this project so far in your mind?
    possibly the current thread derail?

    the project itself however is so small and intricate that everything is connected to everything else to such a degree that it's difficult to designate any one thing as the most challenging.

    there is no question however that if i had to pick just one construction challenge it would be pouring new perimeter foundations and exterior columns and beams before being able to proceed with interior demolition would top the list
    combined with a lack of site access and layby space.

    the biggest disappointment was probably how much the original building had been allowed to deteriorate and how many options that removed going forward along with the impact that had on design decisions and on costs.

    the biggest outstanding issue remains leasing risk. we knew it would be tough getting market acceptance for a building that had been abandoned for fifteen years until they could walk the finished spaces. now that we're there we're looking forward to some of that interest coming to fruition.
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    Best of luck Ken as this would make an amazing office for one of the many tech firms moving to or expanding Downtown.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Best of luck Ken as this would make an amazing office for one of the many tech firms moving to or expanding Downtown.
    I agree. I hope there’s a tour for the grand opening. I’d fly home for that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Best of luck Ken as this would make an amazing office for one of the many tech firms moving to or expanding Downtown.
    I agree. I hope there’s a tour for the grand opening. I’d fly home for that.
    whenever you're home i'm pretty sure we can arrange for a tour...
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    some miscellaneous photos from the past few days...

    curtainwall from both sides:



    some miscellaneous views/activity:



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    some tradework:



    and some glass:

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    Ahhh, you beat me too it... Oh well, my pictures from last weekend. Going to be an interesting building when its finished, a well done blend of old and modern.



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    Awesome.
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    Are you going to refresh the painted titling or leave as-is? It looks to be in pretty good shape.
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    Wow. It’s really coming along nicely.

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    Brighton Block looking fantastic






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    Oooooh glazing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spudly View Post
    Are you going to refresh the painted titling or leave as-is? It looks to be in pretty good shape.
    at this point the planning is to leave it "as is"...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nickv View Post
    Oooooh glazing
    a closer look from the 4th floor patio at some of that glazing:

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    ^Very nice

    BTW, when do the windows on the lower part, original façade, get installed?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmcowboy11 View Post
    ^Very nice

    BTW, when do the windows on the lower part, original façade, get installed?
    that should start in the next week or so...
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    This is definitely my favorite project underway right now. Cannot wait to see it finished!

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    Question... what’s happening with the false front on top of the original building with the name etc? It doesn’t look very good. Doesn’t look original but a cheap add on from the 90s.

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    Surely you jest.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Surely you jest.
    No, not really. The brick isn’t the same colour. It doesn’t look original.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Surely you jest.
    No, not really. The brick isn’t the same colour. It doesn’t look original.
    it's original (noting that the brighton block was actually two buildings with the west 1/2 built a year after the east 1/2). it's just wet (not surprising in this weather), as is the brick at the east edge of the building.
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    That patio is shaping up to be one of the best in the city, for sure. Keep those updates coming, Ken.

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    Man the river valley views are beautiful. Makes me miss Edmonton.

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    I love this project so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
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    Surely you jest.
    No, not really. The brick isn’t the same colour. It doesn’t look original.
    it's original (noting that the brighton block was actually two buildings with the west 1/2 built a year after the east 1/2). it's just wet (not surprising in this weather), as is the brick at the east edge of the building.
    Even when perfectly dry the brick looks different. But thanks for explaining, much appreciated. Personally I find it takes away from the building, quite ugly actually.

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    Haha. You’re kidding. I would say that most love it so you are the exception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Haha. You’re kidding. I would say that most love it so you are the exception.
    I never said I was speaking for anyone but myself so go **** yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Haha. You’re kidding. I would say that most love it so you are the exception.
    I never said I was speaking for anyone but myself so go **** yourself.
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    from louise mckinney park (from a friend).
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    Looks pretty dry and I can definitely see the different colour in brick from the false fronted signage on top and the actual building.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Looks pretty dry and I can definitely see the different colour in brick from the false fronted signage on top and the actual building.
    Pretty sure kcantor knows what he’s talking about lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Looks pretty dry and I can definitely see the different colour in brick from the false fronted signage on top and the actual building.
    maybe it would help if you looked at some photos from the "backside" of that "false fronted signage on top". you can see from the brickwork and where the roof joists were "fire cut" into that parapet how integral it all is:



    you can also see how integral it all is if you look at the returns from either the exterior or the backside as the parapet turns the corner:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Seandroid View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by etownboarder View Post
    Looks pretty dry and I can definitely see the different colour in brick from the false fronted signage on top and the actual building.
    Pretty sure kcantor knows what he’s talking about lol.
    I didn’t say he didn’t know what he was talking about. I was just pointing out the different colour in brick that made me question whether it was original or not.

    ^and gracias.

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    6th floor wednesday morning courtesy of adam cantor:

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    Edmonton's Brighton Block - CTV News - CTV Edmonton

    A building that once housed camera supplies, but then deteriorated from exposure, has a new image.

    The historic Brighton Block, originally built by Ernest Brown in 1912, for his Everything Photographic business, is nearly ready to reopen after a two-year effort to salvage the brick walls of the building.

    Originally, Ken Cantor, a longtime developer in Edmonton, said his company, Primavera, had hoped to save much of the foundations and framing of the century-old three-storey building at Jasper Avenue and 96 Street.

    The building had deteriorated too far for that to happen.

    “It was decrepit and literally rotting from the basement to the roof,” Cantor says.

    The plan then became an effort to save the brick walls of the old building. To do that, an edge foundation needed to be poured, before the old insides could be dug and torn out. Then, a state-of-the-art system of raft slab and new columns could begin.

    Then, the original three-storey structure turned into six with the new upper levels having floor-to-ceiling glass with sweeping views of the river valley.

    “The building itself is exactly what we wanted,” says Cantor.

    Even the alley side of the Brighton Block will have the same glass treatment to show off Edmonton’s changing skyline, according to Cantor.

    “People don’t realize how close it is to everything, when you stand here, you can see CN, which is the first office tower that was built. You can see Epcor, you can see Stantec and the Marriott that was built.”

    The developer hopes a restaurant will occupy the first floor and says that the upper storeys would be perfect for a business like a law firm. He says construction will be completed by mid-September.
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    Saw you on the news Ken! Your building is turning out much better than I thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThomasH View Post
    Saw you on the news Ken! Your building is turning out much better than I thought.
    thanks ThomasH!

    although the pictures don't really do it justice, it is getting to the stage where they start to hint at what the finished product is really going to look like.

    now we get to add some of the playful and personal design components.
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    a bit of update on the lodge/pendennis as well as the brighton block:

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.5235539


    the on-air clip is at about the 7:18 mark:

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    some windows looking for a home:



    some windows that found a home:



    an elevator cab floor at home in the shaft and some rails to keep it in line while the rest gets built in place:



    curtainwall framing moving from the south face to the north face:

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    curtainwall on the north side:



    reclaiming some historic brick to hide some original structural steel exposed in the reconstruction:



    a good look at the "break" between the original building (to the left) and the original addition (to the right):



    and last but not least our neighbour to the east:

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    So inspiring to see this beauty every day getting closer to completion.
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    Only thing though is this was supposed to be finished by mid-September - kinda doubt that is gonna happen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Only thing though is this was supposed to be finished by mid-September - kinda doubt that is gonna happen.
    let's just say that this 107 year old beauty queen still has the occasional surprise in store for her courtiers that needs to be dealt with...

    and that after 107 years a few weeks to get things done right isn't the end of the world.
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    Love the updates Ken.
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    Love the updates. How is the leasing front going, are there any confirmed tenants?

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    Quote Originally Posted by barhonda View Post
    Love the updates. How is the leasing front going, are there any confirmed tenants?
    we have a conditional agreement in place for 1 floor that looks like it will expand to a second and continue to see increased interest as construction moves forward and we're almost closed in. main floor stone and storefront will be the next big visual from the exterior, having a finished lobby and an elevator the next big step for the interior.

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    Beautiful! Need more people like you Ken investing into the city and seeing potential in Historical Properties and doing their best for preservation. Bravo!
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Only thing though is this was supposed to be finished by mid-September - kinda doubt that is gonna happen.
    let's just say that this 107 year old beauty queen still has the occasional surprise in store for her courtiers that needs to be dealt with...

    and that after 107 years a few weeks to get things done right isn't the end of the world.
    Naturally a DIVA should be catered too and shouldn't be expected any less as far as my perspective can see it. This was never intended as a cookie cutter, and I'm happily willing to wait.

    She is looking dynamite so far. I didnt realize the north had such a decent view as shown with Stantec in the background; I'm not quite sure if the additions helped but...
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    Ken - if the construction is not going to wrap up by mid-September then when will it happen? Not looking for a hard date, but an estimated timeline.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Ken - if the construction is not going to wrap up by mid-September then when will it happen? Not looking for a hard date, but an estimated timeline.
    we should have substantial completion for the base building late this month or early next. depending on weather, there may be the odd seasonal deficiency that will have to wait until next spring but nothing that will preclude tenant work or tenant occupancy following completion of that work. main floor storefront should start to go in by the end if this week and then we can finish off the lobby...
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    Taken September 14, 2019

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    Looking north and up from Louise Mckinney Park
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    new address on jasper avenue:



    if the devil is in the details, this is going to be very devilish building when we're done.
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    Yikes

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    That's awesome!
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    some storefront to wrap those addresses...

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    Super. Getting closer by the day

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    Long time lurker, first time poster. Just wanted to say this is probably the most exciting development for me in Edmonton over the past little while. Absolutely love what has been done to keep it original but update it with the glazing/extra floors. This will be an excellent boost to East Jasper/the Quarters. I hope this spurs further development and confidence in the area. My company did a little work here and I probably spent a little more time than necessary with site visits, haha. Just so lovely to look at.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Komrade View Post
    Beautiful! Need more people like you Ken investing into the city and seeing potential in Historical Properties and doing their best for preservation. Bravo!
    Agreed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    some storefront to wrap those addresses...


    Truly inspiring.

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    The challenges of preserving architectural heritage.

    Heritage funding requests for Brighton Block, Strathcona Hotel renewals drastically exceed city budget

    Ken Cantor’s Primavera Development Group is behind the 35,000-square-foot redesign of the storied 1912 Brighton Block, looking to transform the three-storey brick building along Jasper Avenue into a six-storey commercial and retail space. With the total project amounting to $15 million, the city said it would be eligible for an unprecedented $566,636 under the grant program. The major construction work on the building is expected to be complete in the next few weeks.


    After purchasing the building from the Ukrainian Canadian Archives and Museum of Alberta in 2017, Cantor said the building was facing significant damage. But he said the group sees the value in going through with the project they started.


    “As a city and owners, I think we need to pay more attention to our buildings and our building stock before they’re heritage buildings,” Cantor said. “Right now we ignore them until they’re old, we ignore them until they’re heritage and we allow them to deteriorate with very little consequences … it’s almost as if that’s what we expect.”

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...-city-capacity

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