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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    That’s still a work in progress here.

    Immigration from any country will likely bring in more progressive attitudes/values on some fronts while re-introducing more traditional/values and views. Plus introducing some completely new values, views and perspectives.

    It’s always going to be a mixed bag. Moreover, some of the people that desire equality and respect in their home countries can’t get it there and risk persecution, prejudice and harm such as; gays, women, capitalists, religious minorities (like some Christians, some Muslims, some Jews in the Middle East), and political and other non-conformists and so become refugees seeking entrance to countries that promise greater equality and respect.

    Legal-standard-process immigration will also introduce or reintroduce values that aren’t exactly in alignment with our “culture and society”. People coming from oppressed countries quashed by Soviet communism may bring a hateful perspective on communism that isn’t at all in alignment with the home grown Canadian view of communism. Same for those arriving from capitalist countries with extreme income disparity may reject capitalism and bring in socialistic leanings. (Anecdotally, my impression is that a lot of British immigration seemed to reflect the latter.)
    Last edited by KC; 20-08-2018 at 05:15 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    We have a racism based immigration system (the points system favouring an well educated, trained etc people) that makes some people think that regular immigration is ok but refugee immigration isn’t.

    I’d prefer a totally randomized immigration system without bias and treating everyone equally except where their numbers reach a cap and then those not selected are out of luck. Bias by number.

    Nonetheless we have what we have. My issue with immigration isn’t race of culture. It’s simply the numbers of people from anywhere and the lack of research into finding the optimum number that will help us according to some desired outcome without causing a lot of negative impacts. Population growth for growth’s sake just doesn’t cut it with me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Are you saying our society and culture shouldn't treat women and men with equal respect?

    You are all over the place.
    Just answer my question first.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    We have a racism based immigration system (the points system favouring an well educated, trained etc people) that makes some people think that regular immigration is ok but refugee immigration isn’t.

    I’d prefer a totally randomized immigration system without bias and treating everyone equally except where their numbers reach a cap and then those not selected are out of luck. Bias by number.

    Nonetheless we have what we have. My issue with immigration isn’t race of culture. It’s simply the numbers of people from anywhere and the lack of research into finding the optimum number that will help us according to some desired outcome without causing a lot of negative impacts. Population growth for growth’s sake just doesn’t cut it with me.
    Education and French/English Language Skills aren't "Race"

    I think it makes perfect sense to have an immigration system that discriminates based on how similar the source nation is to our own culturally. in some ways allowing unlimited internal migration is simply something of an acknowledgement that we are all culturally similar enough to be able to integrate well elsewhere in the country. the USA, UK, Aus, NZ, France should be the next highest preference, then developed nations in northern and western Europe, and on down.

    There are legitimate differences between Western, Oriental and other civilizations and it just makes sense that it should be easier to immigrate within your own Civilization than outside it.
    There can only be one.

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    Which explains why we, as a people, took native children from their families in order to make them more like the Europeans. It also explains why we turned away Jewish refugees, locked up Asian citizens in internment camps and many other cases. It was just, in your words, "perfect sense".

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    I'm talking about regular immigration, not Refugees.

    Those native children's families might have done better not letting us in had they the power, I suppose, although letting in anyone other than the most closely aligned tribe could be dangerous. We know that the various native peoples were just as willing to genocide each other as Europeans have been, lacking only in technology and communicable diseases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    We have a racism based immigration system (the points system favouring an well educated, trained etc people) that makes some people think that regular immigration is ok but refugee immigration isn’t.

    I’d prefer a totally randomized immigration system without bias and treating everyone equally except where their numbers reach a cap and then those not selected are out of luck. Bias by number.

    Nonetheless we have what we have. My issue with immigration isn’t race of culture. It’s simply the numbers of people from anywhere and the lack of research into finding the optimum number that will help us according to some desired outcome without causing a lot of negative impacts. Population growth for growth’s sake just doesn’t cut it with me.
    Education and French/English Language Skills aren't "Race"

    I think it makes perfect sense to have an immigration system that discriminates based on how similar the source nation is to our own culturally. in some ways allowing unlimited internal migration is simply something of an acknowledgement that we are all culturally similar enough to be able to integrate well elsewhere in the country. the USA, UK, Aus, NZ, France should be the next highest preference, then developed nations in northern and western Europe, and on down.

    There are legitimate differences between Western, Oriental and other civilizations and it just makes sense that it should be easier to immigrate within your own Civilization than outside it.
    I used to think religion wasn’t race either. Education and language are race(s). Racism is one group believing it is superior to another. The higher educated are very racist towards to poorer educated.

    As for language? Watch the videos of people snapping in the presence of someone speaking a foreign language (on a bus or in a restaurant, etc) and telling them to “go back to their country”. They are automatically labelled as racists. There’s just no room for denying that.


    Racism - Wikipedia
    “The UN does not define "racism"; however, it does define "racial discrimination": According to the 1965 UN International Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Racial Discrimination,[18]

    the term "racial discrimination" shall mean any distinction, exclusion, restriction, or preference based on race, colour, descent, or national or ethnic origin that has the purpose or effect of nullifying or impairing the recognition, enjoyment or exercise, on an equal footing, of human rights and fundamental freedoms in the political, economic, social, cultural or any other field of public life.”


    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racism

    racism | Definition, History, & Laws | Britannica.com

    “By the 19th century, racism had matured and spread around the world. In many countries, leaders began to think of the ethnic components of their own societies, usually religious or language groups, in racial terms and to designate “higher” and “lower” races. Those seen as the low-status races, especially in colonized areas, were exploited for their labour, and discrimination against them became a common pattern in many areas of the world. The expressions and feelings of racial superiority that accompanied colonialism generated ..”

    https://www.britannica.com/topic/racism
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    I hate when words are bastardized and watered down. There are prejudices and biases and in-group/out-group exclusion but that's not racist.

    What's the word for hatred actually based on race, now?
    There can only be one.

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    You can see it with natives speaking their language around non-native speakers.

    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    I'm talking about regular immigration, not Refugees.


    Those native children's families might have done better not letting us in had they the power, I suppose, although letting in anyone other than the most closely aligned tribe could be dangerous. We know that the various native peoples were just as willing to genocide each other as Europeans have been, lacking only in technology and communicable diseases.
    The Chinese & Japanese in internment caps weren't refugees. They were living here legally.

    And nobody, NOBODY, in the history of the world has been as good at killing people as the Europeans, regardless of where they lived.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    I hate when words are bastardized and watered down. There are prejudices and biases and in-group/out-group exclusion but that's not racist.

    What's the word for hatred actually based on race, now?
    It doesn’t have to be hatred. A sense of superiority is all it takes.

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    Riiiiight. Rwanda? Cambodia (Pol Pot)? Mao? Tamerlane? Genghis Khan? Must have all been Europeans in disguise.

    Interments were a horrible injustice and never should have happened, but that they did has no bearing on what immigration policies should be, only on how we should treat people once they are here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    I hate when words are bastardized and watered down. There are prejudices and biases and in-group/out-group exclusion but that's not racist.

    What's the word for hatred actually based on race, now?
    It doesn’t have to be hatred. A sense of superiority is all it takes.
    So if you feel superior about your non-racist immigration policy vs. say Japans or Israel's does that make you racist? Those policies are, after all, part of their culture.
    There can only be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    I hate when words are bastardized and watered down. There are prejudices and biases and in-group/out-group exclusion but that's not racist.

    What's the word for hatred actually based on race, now?
    It doesn’t have to be hatred. A sense of superiority is all it takes.
    So if you feel superior about your non-racist immigration policy vs. say Japans or Israel's does that make you racist? Those policies are, after all, part of their culture.
    Pretty much. That would be national superiority, aka nationalism, aka the Canadian race with a superior culture to the others. Now if they were to adopt our immigration policy, that would be cultural appropriation.

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    KC, religion is not a race.

    I know Catholic Priests that are Africans, Asians and from India.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    KC, religion is not a race.

    I know Catholic Priests that are Africans, Asians and from India.
    Are you implying that geography decides race? I agree that it’s one perspective.

    Muslims exist all over the world too. Are ‘islamophobics’ racists? For instance, I don’t think MrOilers likes the Islamic religion or the idea of having more people in Canada that follow the Islamic belief system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Riiiiight. Rwanda? Cambodia (Pol Pot)? Mao? Tamerlane? Genghis Khan? Must have all been Europeans in disguise.

    Interments were a horrible injustice and never should have happened, but that they did has no bearing on what immigration policies should be, only on how we should treat people once they are here.
    Hitler, Stalin, US civil war, Starvation and slaughter of American Indians, colonization wars in Africa. Both world wars were started by Europeans. Stalin starved millions. Even in Canada, Corwallis put out a bounty on the scalps of the Mi'kmaq. John A. Macdonald advocated starvation to force natives onto reservations, the US deliberately give the natives blankets contaminated with smallpox.

    I'll put the Europeans body count up against anyone you can think of.

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    Indigenous people were forced out of ‘our’ national parks too.



    [quote]The shady past of Parks Canada: Forced out, Indigenous people are forging a comeback | National Post

    “...The Stoney were not alone in being banished from lands they once lived on to clear the way for Canadian parkland. In 1936, members of the Keeseekoowenin Ojibwa band were expelled from a fishing station within the newly created Riding Mountain National Park in Manitoba. As they left for a reserve outside the park with their belongings on wagons, they saw smoke rising from their houses and barns, set alight by park wardens wanting to ensure the Ojibwa did not return. ...”

    In an article published by Walrus in June, Indigenous writer and businessman Robert Jago denounced “a parks system that has robbed and impoverished Indigenous peoples.” He argued that Canadians need to change their concept of wilderness and accept that, 50 years from now, “Algonquin people may again be living in Algonquin Park, and that Stanley Park and the turquoise waters of Moraine Lake in Banff National Park may be dotted with First Nations homes and businesses.”

    https://nationalpost.com/news/canada...ing-a-comeback
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    With the number of people in the USA accusing politicians of infidelity, groping, sexual assault, etc. in attempts to ruin careers, I think Mike Pence is wise not to go on lunch dates with women other than his wife.
    Ironic that you think that's appropriate, when it's only a step or two away from making women wear bags over their heads so that men won't be tempted to rape them. Which of course you think is terrible, just terrible (and I happen to agree).
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    I love the "accusing politicians of infidelity, groping, sexual assault, etc. in attempts to ruin careers" Trump defence. Hilarious. It's proven that Trump has cheated on all of his wives, has boasted of "grabbing them by the pussy", walking in or women while they're changing just because he could and it's all part of a plan to "ruin his career".

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    That's because in Trump's mind it is all the woman's fault.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    What Pence himself had to say about that.


    Parker wasn't tweeting some supposedly juicy anecdote that she had learned from anonymous sources secretly chuckling at Pence's arrangement with his wife. She was paraphrasing something Pence himself told The Hill newspaper in 2002. And it came up during the 2016 campaign in stories like this one from the Indianapolis Star:


    During his 12 years in Congress, Pence had rules to avoid any infidelity temptations, or even rumors of impropriety. Those included requiring that any aide who had to work late to assist him be male, never dining alone with a woman other than his wife, and not attending an event where alcohol is served unless Karen was there.


    In a 2002 interview with The Hill, Pence called it, “building a zone around your marriage.”


    “If there's alcohol being served and people are being loose, I want to have the best-looking brunette in the room standing next to me,” Pence said.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.82a215d59c82
    I call it a totally moribund viewpoint. He must either be really insecure in himself if he can't trust himself to be alone with anyone other than the missus, or the missus has threatened to shoot him if he so much as even looks at another woman. The guy's got issues, and/or is just another religious wacko.
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    I'd go with and as opposed to or on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    With the number of people in the USA accusing politicians of infidelity, groping, sexual assault, etc. in attempts to ruin careers, I think Mike Pence is wise not to go on lunch dates with women other than his wife.
    Ironic that you think that's appropriate, when it's only a step or two away from making women wear bags over their heads so that men won't be tempted to rape them.
    No it isn't. Declining to go on dinner dates with women other than your wife is not even close to forcing other women to wear bags on their heads. Not even in the same realm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    I don’t think MrOilers likes the Islamic religion or the idea of having more people in Canada that follow the Islamic belief system.
    As long as the Islamic belief system involves using the Koran and Islam as the rule of law of the country (as it does everywhere else it is dominant in the world), it needs to be kept in check in Canada.

    We need to keep working to keep religion (all religions) and politics as far away from each other as possible. But Islam has never has had such a reformation and enlightenment, and is constantly pushing to legislate to outlaw criticism of it and to set up its own parallel religious-law court systems, which should NEVER be allowed in a secular plural society such as Canada. It has nothing to do with people, and everything to do with the belief.

    And Islam certainly has never achieved anything positive to earn the reverence that it seems to always get from leftists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    That’s still a work in progress here.
    At least we are working on it. And we have made an incredible amount of progress that shouldn't be undone by flooding our country with people who will vote for stone-age unCanadian beliefs that women are equivalent to pets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    There are legitimate differences between Western, Oriental and other civilizations and it just makes sense that it should be easier to immigrate within your own Civilization than outside it.
    This is true, because different cultures have different value systems. No surprise that clashes occur when large numbers of people are supplanted into foreign culture that has completely different values.

    It's why, for example, a Canadian-born tourist couple can get into serious legal trouble when showing affection in public in a fanatically-fundamentalist Middle-Eastern country. People used to radically-different cultural values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    Which post?

    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your empty trouble-making accusations of racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Riiiiight. Rwanda? Cambodia (Pol Pot)? Mao? Tamerlane? Genghis Khan? Must have all been Europeans in disguise.

    Interments were a horrible injustice and never should have happened, but that they did has no bearing on what immigration policies should be, only on how we should treat people once they are here.
    Hitler, Stalin, US civil war, Starvation and slaughter of American Indians, colonization wars in Africa. Both world wars were started by Europeans. Stalin starved millions. Even in Canada, Corwallis put out a bounty on the scalps of the Mi'kmaq. John A. Macdonald advocated starvation to force natives onto reservations, the US deliberately give the natives blankets contaminated with smallpox.

    I'll put the Europeans body count up against anyone you can think of.
    Yes, they stand up against anyone - people of all nationalities and "races" have been equally bloodthirsty.

    Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge killed roughly a quarter of their population in 4 years, mostly civilians. - that's got to count for more than the US civil war that killed about 2 percent of their population, mostly soldiers.

    I'll put Mao up as Stalin's Equal, and Genghis Khan reducing the population of the part of China he controlled from 50million to 8 million up against European Colonization of the Americas, Tamerlane's decimation of Persia and Iraq up against European colonization of Africa.

    Cornwallis' Bounty returned just one (1) scalp. Clearly not up there with the big boys.
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    Not for lack of trying.

    Even now, the US and the Saudis are bombing hospitals in Afghanistan and Yemen. The Saudis just dropped a bomb on a bus full of civilians. Best response from them was a "Whoops, we bad". The Israelis have used white phosphorous against civilians in Gaza. And it took Europeans to come up with the idea of Apartheid in South Africa. And let's not forget the slave trade. Or Rome & Greece. People of European decent have come up with more ways to kill more people with less effort than anyone else.

    But we should be working to maintain "our culture" from "those people".

    Funny but your comment "
    There are legitimate differences between Western, Oriental and other civilizations and it just makes sense that it should be easier to immigrate within your own Civilization than outside it."
    is pretty much what the marchers in Charlottesville were saying last year.

    Not to mention this guy who ran for congress in 2016.



    At least you've got history on your side.

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    Maybe you're the racist, since you seem determined to show how one race is different and worse than all the others.

    As for murderous technologies being the new, moved bar.... sure, if that's what matters, I guess. Though any civilization has many and varied and horrible methods of killing. But remember that Rwandan Hutus managed to implement their genocide with a faster killing rate than the more technologically advanced Nazis despite their main weapon being a Machete.
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    You're the one that's claiming that we need to prioritize immigration based on, in your words
    Western, Oriental and other civilizations
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    the USA, UK, Aus, NZ, France should be the next highest preference, then developed nations in northern and western Europe, and on down.
    .

    Gee, what do those nations have in common? Hmmmm...

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    USA, UK, Australia, New Zealand, and France are majority Christian nations (so their values are similar), are tolerant societies that value individual rights and equality, and are more culturally similar to Canada than many other cultures from across the world.

    This may come as a shock to you, but societies (and their values) are often radically different from one another, which causes people from different cultures to attack each other.
    Last edited by MrOilers; 21-08-2018 at 07:41 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    Which post?

    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your empty trouble-making accusations of racism.
    All your posts.

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    ^ X2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    We have a racism based immigration system (the points system favouring an well educated, trained etc people) that makes some people think that regular immigration is ok but refugee immigration isn’t. I’d prefer a totally randomized immigration system without bias and treating everyone equally except where their numbers reach a cap and then those not selected are out of luck. Bias by number.Nonetheless we have what we have. My issue with immigration isn’t race of culture. It’s simply the numbers of people from anywhere and the lack of research into finding the optimum number that will help us according to some desired outcome without causing a lot of negative impacts. Population growth for growth’s sake just doesn’t cut it with me.
    Education and French/English Language Skills aren't "Race"I think it makes perfect sense to have an immigration system that discriminates based on how similar the source nation is to our own culturally. in some ways allowing unlimited internal migration is simply something of an acknowledgement that we are all culturally similar enough to be able to integrate well elsewhere in the country. the USA, UK, Aus, NZ, France should be the next highest preference, then developed nations in northern and western Europe, and on down.There are legitimate differences between Western, Oriental and other civilizations and it just makes sense that it should be easier to immigrate within your own Civilization than outside it.
    Exactly, the purpose of immigration is to benefit the host country. As a sovereign country, Canada has every right to put terms and conditions on those seeking to immigrate to Canada, just like Australia and Switzerland does. When people emigrate from their home country they are making an explicit choice to leave, and to come to Canada knowing full well what our customs and traditions are like.Societies work best when people work together, speak the same language and follow the same rules. This isn't rocket science.Refugees are a different story, we'd be far better fixing the problem at the root, ie, trying to prevent people becoming refugees - that way the people can be safe and happy in their home country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    Which post?

    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your empty trouble-making accusations of racism.
    All your posts.
    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your baseless and empty trouble-making accusations of racism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupikhalon001 View Post
    Societies work best when people work together, speak the same language and follow the same rules.
    Are you saying "unity is strength"?

    Who could have ever imagined the crazy idea that "unity" unites people together, and "diversity" mostly divides and tribalizes them?

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    ^^
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I am defending our society and culture, which treats men and women equal respect.
    too bad it appears from your posts that you don't want to defend our society and culture, which treats all race and skin colors equal respect.
    Which post?

    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your empty trouble-making accusations of racism.
    All your posts.
    Show me these posts, or shut the hell up with your baseless and empty trouble-making accusations of racism.

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    In MrOilers America, Everyone should just unite and walk, talk, look, smell and believe in the same things. Diversity should be frown upon.... If you're not what America was 70 years ago, you should GET THE HELL OUT /mrOilers, probably.

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    Look on the bright side. It's unlikely you'll run into him or Highlander II at the Heritage Festival.

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    Conformity. MrOilers ideals of multiculturalism.

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    People in a society who agree on sharing common core values with each other (no matter what their culture or ancestry is) leads to a more peaceful, more productive and happier society. When groups of people with different values clash, it leads to destruction (of the communities and the people). This is objectively true throughout history and in the world today.

    Dismissing that as a 'racist' comment just proves that you don't even know what racism actually is.


    My only gripe with Heritage Days is the hassle I have encountered with crowds trying to take the bus back home. My wife's family enjoy working at their pavilion there each year. Mrs Oilers and I missed it this year for a wedding, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    In MrOilers America, Everyone should just unite and walk, talk, look, smell and believe in the same things. Diversity should be frown upon.... If you're not what America was 70 years ago, you should GET THE HELL OUT /mrOilers, probably.
    Nooo… unity in certain area’s such as language, skill sets benefit all of society, and the individual. Common beliefs and values will also ensure society functions in a cohesive and efficient manner. If there are some values diametrically opposed to ‘western’ values such as democracy, rule of law, work ethic, freedom etc how on earth can that society function and thrive.70 years ago, Canada and Australia had a strict immigration policy regarding who could come into their countries. How did it work out for them? If you remove race from this, and boil it down, the policy basically was about bringing people into their countries that had a common beliefs and shared values.Rightly or wrongly, that was how things were done back then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    People in a society who agree on sharing common core values with each other (no matter what their culture or ancestry is) leads to a more peaceful, more productive and happier society. When groups of people with different values clash, it leads to destruction (of the communities and the people). This is objectively true throughout history and in the world today.

    Dismissing that as a 'racist' comment just proves that you don't even know what racism actually is.


    My only gripe with Heritage Days is the hassle I have encountered with crowds trying to take the bus back home. My wife's family enjoy working at their pavilion there each year. Mrs Oilers and I missed it this year for a wedding, though.
    Ok, you are conflicted

    You embrace diversity and demonstrate different cultures and values can get along in very close proximity of each other at Heritage Days. But then state the very same people of different cultures and values leads to destruction???? Well which is it?


    France and Germany have very similar cultures and values, religions and race but fought multiple wars against each other. Maybe it was politics and pursuit of unrestrained power and greed brought on by evil men. Now both countries get along for generations.


    Your arguments are false. As usual...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    In MrOilers America, Everyone should just unite and walk, talk, look, smell and believe in the same things. Diversity should be frown upon.... If you're not what America was 70 years ago, you should GET THE HELL OUT /mrOilers, probably.
    Canada has two official languages and we get along. Switzerland has four national languages; German, French, Italian and Romansh

    MrOilers is wrong all over the place.
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    Languages aren't "values".

    Try again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    People in a society who agree on sharing common core values with each other (no matter what their culture or ancestry is) leads to a more peaceful, more productive and happier society. When groups of people with different values clash, it leads to destruction (of the communities and the people). This is objectively true throughout history and in the world today.

    Dismissing that as a 'racist' comment just proves that you don't even know what racism actually is.


    My only gripe with Heritage Days is the hassle I have encountered with crowds trying to take the bus back home. My wife's family enjoy working at their pavilion there each year. Mrs Oilers and I missed it this year for a wedding, though.
    Ok, you are conflicted

    You embrace diversity and demonstrate different cultures and values can get along in very close proximity of each other at Heritage Days. But then state the very same people of different cultures and values leads to destruction???? Well which is it?


    France and Germany have very similar cultures and values, religions and race but fought multiple wars against each other. Maybe it was politics and pursuit of unrestrained power and greed brought on by evil men. Now both countries get along for generations.


    Your arguments are false. As usual...

    I am talking about values.

    Culture, food, music, race, religion, and dance aren't "values".

    You need to stop posting and think more.

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    So, oh learned one, tell me what your definition of values are and what test do you have that we all can attempt to pass with a mark high enough to meet your bar of Canadian "values". Who died and made you the Sheriff of Canadian Values??? You sound so much like Justin Trudeau.

    You know, I put much more faith in the good people of Canada and I think your values are wrong and I don't think you belong in Edmonton, nr Alberta and not even in this country. You are an illegal alien and you should be sent back to the strange planet that you came from. LOL
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    What do you think are some Canadian values?

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    There you go again...

    No answering a question and simply asking the same question of me. You make statements and when asked to clarify your point of view, you deflect and try to act smart rather than answer.

    Obviously you have no values of you own and have to ask someone else for help.
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    No, it's a worthwhile discussion that I think Canadians all need to have, but liberals refuse to contribute to. All they do push are empty and aimless buzzwords like "multiculturalism" and "diversity".

    Every other country on the planet is all allowed to have their own cultures and their own values. Except for Canada, apparently (if you are a lefty or a liberal).

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    Everyone I disagree with is a lefty / liberal

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    Every time you post it's a personal attack against me.

    Not that I care what you think of me (because I don't - and probably nobody else does either), but you should either engage in the discussion at hand or stop posting.

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    Yeah, private prisons are totally above board and people have nothing to worry about.

    Really.

    Would we lie to you?

    Seriously, if they'd do this to innocent kids do you think for a moment that they wouldn't do the same to "Big, scary, black people"?

    Corrupt ‘Kids for Cash’ judge ruined more than 2,000 lives

    Ed Kenzakoski, 17, did nothing at all.


    It didn’t matter.


    As we see in the documentary “Kids for Cash,” which opens Friday, all three Luzerne County, Pa. teens met the same fate for their minor infractions.


    They were hauled into court with their parents, sometimes *after being persuaded — coerced, according to at least one parent — by police to waive their right to *legal counsel.


    They were brought before Judge Mark A. Ciavarella and, without warning or the chance to offer a defense, found themselves pronounced guilty, shackled and sentenced to months of detention in a cockroach-infested jail.


    They were trapped in the juvenile justice system for years, robbing most of them of their entire high-school experience.


    Judge Ciavarella, who sentenced around 3,000 children in a similar manner, was later sentenced himself to 28 years in prison for financial crimes related to his acceptance of $2.2 million as a finder’s fee for the construction of a for-profit facility in which to house these so-called delinquents.


    The scandal was called “Kids for Cash,” and it rocked the state in 2009 — for the accusation that Ciavarella was happy to tear families apart in exchange for the payoff.

    https://nypost.com/2014/02/23/film-d...ayoff-scandal/

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    <snip> Except for Canada, apparently (if you are a lefty or a liberal).
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Everyone I disagree with is a lefty / liberal
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Every time you post it's a personal attack against me.

    Not that I care what you think of me (because I don't - and probably nobody else does either), but you should either engage in the discussion at hand or stop posting.
    A personal attack? You mean using what you said against you? I'm soooo sorry. You must be one of the snowflakes you 'far-righties' keep yammering on about.

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    Grow up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post

    I am talking about values.

    Culture, food, music, race, religion, and dance aren't "values".

    You need to stop posting and think more.
    Um you know what has a huge influence culture and religion? People's values. You don't get a culture without people integrating their values into them. Culture is essentially a reflection of what a people group finds important (their values). If they value family, or discipline, or creativity, that's going to be present in their culture and cultural practices. You can't just separate the two, they are interconnected.

    So what you see at heritage days is as much a display of values as it is of culture.

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    As is the fact that all these different cultures are willing to come together and share the stage as it were. And when people from one culture come the the festival to see what their group is putting on, they're also exposed to all the others.

    In the eyes of some people, this is apparently a bad thing. Apparently there should only be a Canadian pavilion with nothing but music by Gordon Lightfoot and Joni Mitchell and serving poutine and butter tarts.

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    You forget Kim Mitchell and Geddy Lee!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Apparently there should only be a Canadian pavilion
    Don't be ignorant. Nobody ever advocated that.

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    The Canadian pavilion stretches several thousand kilometres from coast to coast to coast. I can live with that, eh?
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    ^ I like that concept. Very inclusive. Not xenophobic.
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    Uh oh, bad news for Mr Oilers, as it turns out the guy who killed the woman was in fact in the country LEGALLY.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...eath-was-in-us

    Rivera has lived in Iowa between four and seven years and worked at Yarrabee Farms during that time, according to The Des Moines Register. The newspaper noted that the company is owned by Eric Lang, the brother of prominent Republican Craig Lang.

    Craig Lang confirmed to the attorney that Rivera was in Iowa legally, according to Wednesday's court filing.

    "Craig Lang supports Cristhian’s right to be in this jurisdiction and for the government to support any other idea of status publicly flies in the face of such statement," Richards wrote.

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    Nah, he'll just say that it shows that all minorities should be banned from the country regardless of status or if they were born there or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Uh oh, bad news for Mr Oilers, as it turns out the guy who killed the woman was in fact in the country LEGALLY.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...eath-was-in-us

    Rivera has lived in Iowa between four and seven years and worked at Yarrabee Farms during that time, according to The Des Moines Register. The newspaper noted that the company is owned by Eric Lang, the brother of prominent Republican Craig Lang.

    Craig Lang confirmed to the attorney that Rivera was in Iowa legally, according to Wednesday's court filing.

    "Craig Lang supports Cristhian’s right to be in this jurisdiction and for the government to support any other idea of status publicly flies in the face of such statement," Richards wrote.
    Why on earth would you say that is "bad news" for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Nah, he'll just say that it shows that all minorities should be banned from the country regardless of status or if they were born there or not.
    Cut the cheap personal attacks - they don't help whatever case you are making.

    I don't know anything about this murder case you guys started posting about. I do not care whether the suspect is a "minority" or not. Why should I?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Uh oh, bad news for Mr Oilers, as it turns out the guy who killed the woman was in fact in the country LEGALLY.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...eath-was-in-us

    Rivera has lived in Iowa between four and seven years and worked at Yarrabee Farms during that time, according to The Des Moines Register. The newspaper noted that the company is owned by Eric Lang, the brother of prominent Republican Craig Lang.

    Craig Lang confirmed to the attorney that Rivera was in Iowa legally, according to Wednesday's court filing.

    "Craig Lang supports Cristhian’s right to be in this jurisdiction and for the government to support any other idea of status publicly flies in the face of such statement," Richards wrote.
    Why on earth would you say that is "bad news" for me?
    Because you get off on news about illegal immigrants doing something wrong.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Because you get off on news about illegal immigrants doing something wrong.
    Yes, MrOilers and Trump are in lock step.

    They jump on a single murder and blame it on an illegal even before the facts are known. Turns out that he was not an illegal. More shouts to spend billions on building a wall.

    Meanwhile there are a hundred other gun deaths that day and those are not even mentioned by either of them.

    BTW, 55 people were killed and hundreds injured in Las Vegas last year by a white gunman and Trump barely mentioned that. How is that bumpstock ban law coming along?

    The hypocrisy is as deep as the wall is long...
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    Or the (white) guy in Colorado who murdered his pregnant wife and two children. Crickets.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Uh oh, bad news for Mr Oilers, as it turns out the guy who killed the woman was in fact in the country LEGALLY.

    http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefi...eath-was-in-us

    Rivera has lived in Iowa between four and seven years and worked at Yarrabee Farms during that time, according to The Des Moines Register. The newspaper noted that the company is owned by Eric Lang, the brother of prominent Republican Craig Lang.

    Craig Lang confirmed to the attorney that Rivera was in Iowa legally, according to Wednesday's court filing.

    "Craig Lang supports Cristhian’s right to be in this jurisdiction and for the government to support any other idea of status publicly flies in the face of such statement," Richards wrote.
    How inconvenient for some - they were there legally. However, I suspect those with an agenda against immigrants, will dismiss, ignore or forget the truth. You know, truth isn't truth - just dismiss the facts that don't suit your agenda.

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    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.

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    Then leave...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    Guys, I think MrOilers has you here. Unfortunately, MrOilers never really takes the time to adequately explain his beliefs and positions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Hmm Buildthemhigh - is that you?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    Guys, I think MrOilers has you here. Unfortunately, MrOilers never really takes the time to adequately explain his beliefs and positions.
    He's the guy that was terrified by the idea that the Afghan girls robotics team was heading to America and smuggling bombs. They then went on to win the Rookie Award and earlier this year took the top prize at a competition in Estonia. And, strange as it may seem, they didn't detonate any bombs while doing so.


    He explained his opinion of them quite clearly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    You have a track record, dude. We ALL know how you're going to react to a piece of news because you're so predictable.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    He's the guy that was terrified by the idea that the Afghan girls robotics team was heading to America and smuggling bombs.
    Ha ha. No, I wasn't terrified. Nobody was terrified of a bunch of kids.

    My god, you are silly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    You have a track record, dude. We ALL know how you're going to react to a piece of news because you're so predictable.

    You are being intentionally abrasive, and are deliberately trying to bait and bully me.

    Get lost.

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    You reap what you sow...

    Karma bites...
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    I'm sorry - I thought this forum was to discuss politics.

    Is the intent to only have everyone echo the same political opinion, and to throw personal insults to everyone with different perspectives? If so, I'll play along instead of being honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    You reap what you sow...

    Karma bites...

    Do you ever take responsibility for your own actions, or do you always participate in personally attacking other people and then blaming them for it?

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    Alt-Right snowflake
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    Still only have uncreative personal insults to contribute?

    And you still think you are taking the moral high road?

    Ha ha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    You have a track record, dude. We ALL know how you're going to react to a piece of news because you're so predictable.

    You are being intentionally abrasive, and are deliberately trying to bait and bully me.

    Get lost.
    So all this time you've been accidentally abrasive, and unintentionally trying to bait people with your comments here? Now your feelings are hurt because I called you predictable? Grow up.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    The alt-rights trump fans are sure becoming twitchy around here

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    Some left when the getting was good. Anyone heard from moahunter?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    You have a track record, dude. We ALL know how you're going to react to a piece of news because you're so predictable.

    You are being intentionally abrasive, and are deliberately trying to bait and bully me.

    Get lost.
    So all this time you've been accidentally abrasive, and unintentionally trying to bait people with your comments here? Now your feelings are hurt because I called you predictable? Grow up.

    I have a hard time believing your nastiness started because of me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Wow. We are now at the point where I don't even need to post anything - you all choose to select a random news story (which I never saw), put words into my mouth of what you presume I think, then attack me personally over things I never said and things I didn't do.

    How judgmental and arrogant is that?

    You all need to be ashamed of yourselves.

    With quality contributors like yourselves, it's no wonder this forum is so dead all the time.
    You have a track record, dude. We ALL know how you're going to react to a piece of news because you're so predictable.
    You are being intentionally abrasive, and are deliberately trying to bait and bully me.

    Get lost.
    So all this time you've been accidentally abrasive, and unintentionally trying to bait people with your comments here? Now your feelings are hurt because I called you predictable? Grow up.

    I have a hard time believing your nastiness started because of me.
    Too much estrogen injections and multiple soy latte's a day provokes nastiness , not saying just saying

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    So much for Trump's promises that Mexico will pay for the wall...

    Hardy har har...

    From the debate where he bragged that it will only cost $10-12 Billion...



    Trump Says Military to Build Border Wall If Democrats Refuse
    https://www.realclearpolitics.com/ar...se_138893.html
    President Donald Trump sought Tuesday to pressure Democratic congressional leaders into supporting his demand for billions of dollars to build his promised wall along the U.S.-Mexico border, threatening to have the military build it “if Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country.”

    Trump tweeted the threat hours before Senate Democratic Leader Chuck Schumer and House Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi were to meet with Trump at the White House in an effort to avert a possible partial government shutdown on Dec. 21, when funding for some agencies is scheduled to expire.



    In a series of tweets Tuesday, Trump said immigration and border patrol agents and thousands of active-duty service members he sent to the border have done a “FANTASTIC” job. But he said “A Great Wall would be, however, a far easier & less expensive solution.”


    Trump said he looked forward to meeting with Schumer and Pelosi, but claimed they don’t want border security for “strictly political reasons.”


    “If the Democrats do not give us the votes to secure our Country, the Military will build the remaining sections of the Wall. They know how important it is!” Trump said.


    Schumer and Pelosi said Monday that Republicans have the power to keep the government open since they control Congress and the White House.


    “Our country cannot afford a Trump Shutdown,” they said in a statement, adding that Trump “knows full well that his wall proposal does not have the votes to pass the House and Senate and should not be an obstacle to a bipartisan agreement.”


    Republican congressional leaders have repeatedly said it’s up to Trump to cut a deal with Democrats, an acknowledgment of their inability to produce spending bills with Republican votes alone.
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    Maybe he means that he's going to get the Mexican military to build it.

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    He has thousands of people in camps that he can use as slave labor...
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    I was watching 'The Sound of Music' last night.

    You know the final scene where the von Trapp family is escaping a violent regime by crossing the border into Switzerland.



    In Trump's world view, he would build a border wall 12 feet high to prevent this caravan of illegal aliens from bringing their crime, drugs and rapists into his country. The von Trapp's should return to their own country and don't even consider chain migration...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    I was watching 'The Sound of Music' last night.

    You know the final scene where the von Trapp family is escaping a violent regime by crossing the border into Switzerland.



    In Trump's world view, he would build a border wall 12 feet high to prevent this caravan of illegal aliens from bringing their crime, drugs and rapists into his country. The von Trapp's should return to their own country and don't even consider chain migration...
    I hate to disagree with you, but I think Trump wouldn't mind the von Trapp's so much. They are white enough for him, although he would probably prefer if they pretended they were not sort of Germanic, but coming from Scandinavia, like his family did.

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    Trump's family came from Germany and Scotland. Where do you get Scandinavia?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Donald_Trump

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