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    http://www.canada.com/calgaryherald/...f-16bdde9daa55

    Communities fight annexation
    Valerie Fortney, Calgary Herald

    Published: Monday, February 18, 2008
    For the next three weeks, the Calgary Herald, Edmonton Journal and Global TV are travelling across Alberta on a Greyhound bus to get to the election stories that affect ordinary Albertans.
    On Sunday, we brought you Edmonton, and today, we reach Sherwood Park and St. Albert.

    "We just love our little town, and wish to hell Edmonton would stay out of our face."
    Terry Hovell says the above words with a smile, but you know he means business. After all, he's a Sherwood Parkian -- as many of the residents of this bedroom community a stone's throw east of the provincial capital call themselves.
    Like the other 55,000 or so citizens of what the local chamber of commerce bills "North America's largest hamlet," Hovell, a realtor, is fiercely proud and protective of this place that's been his home the past dozen years.
    To the casual observer, it's difficult to wrap your head around the allure of Sherwood Park. It's a self-described centre with no real town centre, mostly a collection of shopping malls and an endless labyrinth of residential subdivisions. At just over three kilometres from Edmonton, it's closer than Calgary's McKenzie Towne neighbourhood is to our city centre. It could be easily mistaken for just another suburb; a place where if the term bedroom community hadn't already been invented, it would have served as the inspiration.
    See link above for rest of article
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

  • #2
    HAHAHAHA this is funny. Bone crushingly funny.

    Many, especially those in Strathcona County, where Sherwood Park sits, compare the plan to no less than the dreaded National Energy Program of the 1980s. Hovell says even the term regional co-operation is an oxymoron.
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    • #3
      "We don't get along," he says of his hamlet that had a grand total of 30 families residing here in 1956, and Edmonton. "The mayor (Edmonton's Stephen Mandel) is trying to take some of our industrial tax base away, and he's appealing all kinds of projects."
      You don't even want to try to get along. How many of those 30 families originally came from the boogieman, err rather, Edmonton?
      That tax base belongs to the region. Its the regions power that brought it here, not Strathcona County. Give it up
      A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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      • #4
        All Hail Leduc, they seem to get it, and is much further out then Sherwood Park...(they also are facing some stiff costs in infrastructure, and are likely looking for a little help from the big tax base of everyone else


        "We believe in the capital region," Leduc mayor Greg Krischke tells me while he watches a women's hockey match Sunday at the Black Gold Centre arena. His working-class, more than a century-old city and county of 20,000 south of Edmonton won the bid to host this year's Alberta Winter Games.
        "We're all in the sandbox together, but some of us are fighting. And that is making it hard for all of us to get along and get ahead."
        A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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        • #5
          "There's no downtown, no collection place for kids to get into trouble," says Hovell, who adds a home selling for $120,000 five years ago here has increased to about $420,000.
          No, they just hang out in the parks, and other places, and get bored out of there minds. When they realize theres bugger all to do out there for youths, they head to Edmonton. See above comments on social services debt.
          A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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          • #6
            I posted these comments on SSP, but thought I would bring them here, and tone the language a bit down on it. (I tend to be a bit more 'vocal' over at SSP)

            I dont get how anything changes in their 'town' feel if Edmonton annex or amalagamates them. Will the sky still be blue? Yes. Will the roads still have all there little cutesy names? Yes. Will all the community kids suddenly turn to crime and drugs? Too late. Will Sherwood parkians and St Albertians have to start paying there share of the social problems? Yes! Theres that change they fear. They like their hiding spot. Away from the problems of the big city, but not the benefits.

            This regional stuff really gets to me. "We cheer for Edmonton sports teams, we shop in Edmonton, some of work in Edmonton, we use Edmontons services, we like being close to big hospitals, and all the things that the big city brings us, but HOW DARE you expect us to pay for this stuff. How dare you expect us to live under the same government as you 'commoners' . Its ******elitest attitude, and 'we're better then you, so we will take advantage of you.'

            Someone please tell me how St Albert is different the SkyView, Sherwood Park different then Tewillegar, Spruce Grove different then Jasper Place...

            Its not. And I'm ****** off about it.
            A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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            • #7
              I do enjoy the blatant mockery of sherwood park though:

              To the casual observer, it's difficult to wrap your head around the allure of Sherwood Park. It's a self-described centre with no real town centre, mostly a collection of shopping malls and an endless labyrinth of residential subdivisions. At just over three kilometres from Edmonton, it's closer than Calgary's McKenzie Towne neighbourhood is to our city centre. It could be easily mistaken for just another suburb; a place where if the term bedroom community hadn't already been invented, it would have served as the inspiration.

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              • #8
                These types of comments are often said. People start identifying with their "town", however they decide to define it, and take any change as evil.

                I found it hilarious back in my Warburg days with the Alder Flats vs Winflied vs Warburg vs Breton vs Thorsby vs Calmar vs...insert any small x<500 person village here. It was just stupid. Yeah, let's make fun of Breton becasue they're so different. Let's go beat up Calmar becasue, well, they're from CALMAR don't you know!!!!

                On Metro Edmonton's scale, it is not any more stupid, just louder.
                President and CEO - Airshow.

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                • #9
                  I still don't see what these people think they have to gain here. It's painful to watch death throes so why draw it out? Simply put, if the PCs aren't on your side, nobody is on your side anymore. With the PCs, Edmonton is only the Enemy when the leader is from Calgary. I know that's pretty complex, but do you get it? Dinning lost, and there went your hope of leverage. Your "doom" was sealed. Did you realise that Dinning lost?

                  It's time to admit that you're beside Edmonton, and the prosperity or threats you see you already share with Edmonton. Do you really think that shouting "we're selfish!" loud enough is going to make you any friends politically? Honestly, what's the strategy? Who are you reaching out to? Vote Bloc Strathcona all you want, but even Bloc Lamont is with Edmonton as part of the region now (welcome, and good luck!)

                  To all the rational people of Strathcounty: hang in there. Even if we won't agree on every issue, we can actually see you.

                  To all the "Edmonton is the Enemy, End of Story" morons in Strathcounty: if you don't want to evolve into responsible people, why not just move to Calgary where being anti-Edmonton is at least explainable (if not still irrational?) You're just pretending to cut off your torso to spite your heart. We can see you too.

                  To all the rational people in Calgary: Sorry about the above, but don't worry, they're not listening to me anyway.
                  Last edited by JayBee; 18-02-2008, 07:40 PM.
                  Let's make Edmonton better.

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                  • #10
                    It's funny the emotions quotes from one random individual in a newspaper can evoke.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Ins View Post
                      It's funny the emotions quotes from one random individual in a newspaper can evoke.
                      Random individual or not, these comments are not just coming from one person, and have been similar such non-sense has been repeated by Strathcona County Hall themselves.
                      A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Medwards View Post
                        Random individual or not, these comments are not just coming from one person, and have been similar such non-sense has been repeated by Strathcona County Hall themselves.
                        People say alot of things that are non-sense. For instance, on this thread you stated all the community kids have turned to drugs and crime. Is there anything more nonsensical than this?

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by Ins View Post
                          It's funny the emotions quotes from one random individual in a newspaper can evoke.
                          Just curious, is there a point here?
                          Let's make Edmonton better.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by JayBee View Post
                            Just curious, is there a point here?
                            The point is the newspaper article is about the comments of one individual not a whole community. Yet the commentary coming back on the board is about the whole community.

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                            • #15
                              Most of the opinions shared in this article have been repeated by none other then Cathy Olesen herself.
                              Sure, they may not be her exact wordings, but they echo the same sentiment on the same topics. So yes, it does reflect the views of elected mayor, which represents the County.
                              A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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