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  • Growing pains for Capital region.

    Sherwood Park is making plans to double in size, Edmonton has launched a new annexation bid to the south, and Sturgeon County is proposing a new urban area around the city of St. Albert.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...880/story.html
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    (http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...ins/index.html)

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    • #3
      I hope the regional board kills Sturgeon County's new urban area on St. Albert's border. That's ridiculous.
      “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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      • #4
        Haven't municipalities had enough of missed opportunities because of lack of collaboration?
        "Talk minus action equals zero." - Joe Keithley, D. O. A.

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        • #5
          I thought that St. Albert planned to annex that land from sturgeon county... I didn't think the county wanted to develop it.

          Can anyone confirm?
          A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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          • #6
            From reading Sturgeon County's draft MDP, the County plans to develop a new urban area called Neighbourhood G north of St. Albert. See page 102 here: http://mdp.sturgeoncounty.ab.ca/Link...M%3d&tabid=714

            Neighbourhood G would be north and east of some still largely undeveloped land annexed from the County into the City of St. Albert in February 2007. Link: http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum...ead.php?t=1920

            The City of Edmonton needs to veto this proposal at the CRB. Otherwise, the Capital Region will end up with leapfrog development.

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            • #7
              Sad, but Edmonton and St Alberta have zero right to preach, by failing their residents by standing up to sprawl speculators, it isn't surprising politicians in other towns and counties are following the lead. Leave this crap quest for land to Sturgeon and others, their residents will then pay the pain of that future infrastructure cost. St Albert residents should be pleased if Sturgeon box them in, they won't then be paying for all those extra firehouses, police stations, sewers or similar, let the sucker residents in Sturgeon subsidize the sprawl speculators.
              Last edited by moahunter; 12-05-2013, 08:48 AM.

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              • #8
                http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...ns/index.html#

                The county hopes these new neighbourhoods can tie into St. Albert's infrastructure, water and sewer lines, but the city has not yet agreed to provide these services.
                “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                  Sad, but Edmonton and St Alberta have zero right to preach, by failing their residents by standing up to sprawl speculators, it isn't surprising politicians in other towns and counties are following the lead. Leave this crap quest for land to Sturgeon and others, their residents will then pay the pain of that future infrastructure cost. St Albert residents should be pleased if Sturgeon box them in, they won't then be paying for all those extra firehouses, police stations, sewers or similar, let the sucker residents in Sturgeon subsidize the sprawl speculators.
                  But yet your home town and favorite city Calgary stands up to sprawl right? Calgary preaches to its neighbours all the time.
                  A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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                  • #10
                    the solution is simple. don't provide the water infrastructure to these new "sprawl towns" no water, end of story. if sturgeon county wants to build a new urban village, then they can build their own water plant, too. no need to leach off the city.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                      Sad, but Edmonton and St Alberta have zero right to preach, by failing their residents by standing up to sprawl speculators, it isn't surprising politicians in other towns and counties are following the lead. Leave this crap quest for land to Sturgeon and others, their residents will then pay the pain of that future infrastructure cost. St Albert residents should be pleased if Sturgeon box them in, they won't then be paying for all those extra firehouses, police stations, sewers or similar, let the sucker residents in Sturgeon subsidize the sprawl speculators.
                      You don't get it moa we don't live in a Vacuum. We all pay. Be it through taxes to the prov gov't that pays for 100% of the counties infrastructure or the increased concentration of social services offloaded onto the city...

                      you simple linear argument isn't how it play out in reality.

                      The counties have to go or have to be removed from the Edmonton Urban Area
                      "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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                      • #12
                        I heard that Gov't may merge 21 into 6 and solve the problem for once and for all , I don't know if it is the best answer ??

                        I like to see Leduc and Sherwood park merge into Edmonton But for St Albert , I don't think so.
                        Last edited by jagators63; 12-05-2013, 10:24 AM.
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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
                          You don't get it moa we don't live in a Vacuum. We all pay. Be it through taxes to the prov gov't that pays for 100% of the counties infrastructure or the increased concentration of social services offloaded onto the city...
                          Social services are the responsibility of the province. I'd rather other cities and towns sprawl than my town, as the burden of most of the cost goes onto those towns / cities. Would I rather there be no sprawl at all? Yes. But leadership has to start somewhere, sucking up vast tracks of land to the airport isn't consistent with that.

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                          • #14
                            The comments by the Sturgeon County planner in the Journal story are telling:

                            "As for the urban densities, it's simply following the Capital Region Board's rules, said county planner Kristina Peter. The Capital Region Board designated this land as a priority growth area, which comes with mandated density targets. "The whole point is not to create a new community," said Peter. "But to be in compliance (with the regional plan) we have to put those densities in there."

                            Far from curbing sprawl, the regional growth plan is being used as a blueprint for more sprawl and leapfrog development.

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                            • #15
                              Annex everything! Lets have a super city! If we built a new ringroad that circles all these outlying communities it would make sense. Lets get it done!
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