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    The city is looking at the possibility of electronic voting in the next Edmonton civic election.

    E-voting, which can include choosing representatives through the Internet, with an electronic ballot or over the telephone, has been tried for over the last decade in other parts of Canada and several European countries, says a report for Wednesday’s council meeting.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...430/story.html
    Noah's ark was built by volunteers...... The Titanic was built by professionals.

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    I'll still trot down to the polling station. Feels more legit
    $2.00 $2.25 $2.50 $2.75 $2.85 $3.00 $3.20 $3.25

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    • #3
      Sweet, but I doubt it would affect voting turnout too much. See campus elections... email voting but <10% turnout. Comes down to people caring.
      Go down a few dark alleys.

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      • #4
        Wasn't it electronic voting in Florida that got George Dubya into the white house dubiously ?
        Just enjoying another day in paradise.

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        • #5
          Then those people who actually take the time out of their day to show up in person should have their vote count as two ..... Only kidding of course

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          • #6
            I like the idea of electronic voting, especially in locations like hospitals and continuing care centres where many seniors continue to vote. I wonder, though, if something like this would incur the same costs as 311 did.
            "Talk minus action equals zero." - Joe Keithley, D. O. A.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Drumbones View Post
              Wasn't it electronic voting in Florida that got George Dubya into the white house dubiously ?
              No, but an infamous butterfly ballot and an outrageous Supreme Court decision both arguably did.
              “Son, one day this will be an iconic structure shaping Edmonton’s skyline.”

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              • #8
                Absolutely not. Paper ballots only.

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                • #9
                  I like the potential convenience of it, but I just can't comprehend a system that's capable of ensuring security and integrity.
                  "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

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                  • #10
                    Its about time
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                    • #11
                      Sure hope it's not as disjointed as the City of Edmonton website . . .

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                      • #12
                        I don't think Electronic Voting can be a fair democratic vote.

                        First of all there are the massive security issues. Computer systems fallible and corruptible. In the absence of actual paper ballots there is no possibility of a recount if there are problems. The only option would be redoing the vote.

                        Second, the principle of the secret ballot can not be maintained when people vote from home. Voter intimidation and control become issues when someone can look over your shoulder and make sure you vote for who you're told to.

                        Finally, there is little evidence that e-voting systems address the one thing they're alleged to help with: voter turnout. The simple fact is that low turnout has little to do with the convenience of voting and everything to do with disillusionment with the political system.

                        "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong"

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                        • #13
                          For those of you that that love good 'fiction'... . The last video gets quite interesting.

                          Republican IT Guru Dies In Plane Crash
                          http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/...n4684431.shtml

                          Republican IT Specialist Dies in Plane Crash
                          http://www.democracynow.org/2008/12/..._dies_in_plane

                          BUSTING the 'Man-in-the-Middle'
                          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRW3B...e_gdata_player
                          Last edited by KC; 13-12-2011, 10:27 PM.

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                          • #14
                            The City Report on E-Voting

                            This bit addresses one of my major concerns:

                            In response to concerns surrounding fraud and coercion, Estonia brought in the principle of multiple votes. In the event a voter is pressured to vote a certain way, a voter is able to change their vote as many times as they like and can even cast a paper ballot on Election Day. Only the last ballot cast is counted. Estonia is able to blend these two systems (e-voting and paper) because the last ballot issued to the registered voter’s identification card is counted.

                            "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong"

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                            • #15
                              They really need to watch this interview about vote rigging and computer security. I'm posting the link again. At the very least watch the last ten minutes though he does get quite interesting at the 30 minute mark.

                              Since data can be changed at both ends, how are electronic votes reconciled to the voters actions?

                              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BRW3B...e_gdata_player

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