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  • Originally posted by transitresearcher View Post
    I am quite happy see Charles Stolte gone. The following quotes from him truly left me disgusted.

    At the March 5, 2014 Transportation Committee meeting he said: "It's going to be very hard to convince me whether it be natural gas or electric, to move off of the diesel."
    And later in the Edmonton Journal: "I’m willing to test (electric), I’m willing to pilot it, but I’m an old-school guy. I fall back on diesel.”
    Stolte may not have been in charge of the Metro LRT line or other capital transit projects but the "Good ol' boys" club was up to a lot of self interest projects rather than providing better transit. Glad he is gone too except we are left with his mess to clean up. Maybe he should go back to driving buses but I guess he was not too good at that either.
    Advocating a better Edmonton through effective, efficient and economical transit.

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    • Originally posted by JayBee View Post
      Awesome.

      Wish there were an app to see where it pops up.
      ETS has an absolutely sub-par live bus map. The Trapeze product is probably the worst I've used and it blows my mind that you can't view the live map on a mobile device. Saskatoon uses the same map and I was beyond frustrated using it there.

      A friend of mine does have his own app that tracks every bus in the city, regardless of whether or not it is on a smart bus route. As long as the driver is logged into the MDT, it will show up on the map. Having said that, it's not available to the general public yet.

      #6013 has always done in the afternoon a 128 departure from University at 14:03 and as far as I know that's a round trip back to University. It is a smart bus route so the bus should show up if the driver is logged in, but, it doesn't. I haven't looked on ETS's live map for the bus but I assume it isn't showing up there. The bus is definitely smart bus equipped though.

      I've heard it sounds like it does a route 4 in the mornings which isn't a smart bus route anyways.

      #6011 has done a number of runs, but, this week it has done the first 104 of the morning, then a 9 tripper to NAIT from Southgate at 7:11, followed by a 188, and finally a 128 to University. In the afternoon, it does a 4 from University at 14:58 to Boonie Doon, then a 112 trip from Capilano to WEM, followed by a University to Jasper Place route 7.
      Last week #6011 was on a morning 4/112/122 I believe and in the afternoon did peak extras on the route 7 that didn't have any interlines.

      A couple of friends wanted to ride 6011 today. I think we kind of surprised the driver after riding the bus on the route 4, and then turning up again at a random bus stop on the 112 40 minutes later.
      Last edited by transitresearcher; 15-01-2016, 11:26 PM.

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      • Imagine the landfill impact - unless they are recycling the old buses.

        Gotta love this “politically correct” quote about dictators:

        “China’s rapid embrace of the new technology, which has gone from fringe to forward-thinking in under a decade, shows the potential of the country’s centrally controlled policy process. ”



        How Shenzhen, China turned all its 16,000 buses electric - Curbed

        Shenzhen is the poster child for China’s massive push to electrify its buses
        By Patrick Sisson May 4, 2018, 4:49pm EDT


        “...It’s a significant achievement, especially considering the size of the city’s fleet, which totals 16,359 vehicles, more than the combined number operating in New York City, LA, Toronto, New Jersey, and Chicago.

        Shenzhen has become the poster child of China’s electric bus push. With 385,000 electric buses, the country has 99 percent of the world’s electric buses, and currently adds 9,500 zero-emission buses every five weeks, equivalent to London’s entire bus fleet....”


        https://www.curbed.com/2018/5/4/1732...transportation
        Bolding mine
        Last edited by KC; 04-05-2018, 07:53 PM.

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        • OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.

          It's simply pointing out that when you have the power centralized, it's faster and easier to change policies. Compare the provincial run BC transit system to the Alberta model of every town and city running their own. Look at how long it's taking to come up with an integrated transit system for the Edmonton area.

          But sure, let's bring dictatorships into it as a reason why we shouldn't go for a region wide system. Because that's what the Chinese do.

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          • Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
            OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.

            It's simply pointing out that when you have the power centralized, it's faster and easier to change policies. Compare the provincial run BC transit system to the Alberta model of every town and city running their own. Look at how long it's taking to come up with an integrated transit system for the Edmonton area.

            But sure, let's bring dictatorships into it as a reason why we shouldn't go for a region wide system. Because that's what the Chinese do.
            Agreed.

            China IS a dictatorship, and it DOES have a lot of centralized planning, but we shouldn't neccessarily conflate the two things. Canadian provinces have way more power against the federal government than provinces in, for example, South Korea(where educational policy and even dog leash laws are determined in Seoul), but that doesn't mean South Korea is a dictatorship.

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            • Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
              OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.

              It's simply pointing out that when you have the power centralized, it's faster and easier to change policies. Compare the provincial run BC transit system to the Alberta model of every town and city running their own. Look at how long it's taking to come up with an integrated transit system for the Edmonton area.

              But sure, let's bring dictatorships into it as a reason why we shouldn't go for a region wide system. Because that's what the Chinese do.
              “OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.”

              You sure have some weird beliefs.

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              • Has anyone been to China lately? They're more socialist than dictators now. Also who is to say their buses cannot be modified for winter usage. They winter cities as well like Garvin- Our twin sister.
                " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

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                • Edmonton is fighting with BC to get good old oil over to burnaby and the harbor while at the same time switching to electric buses to not use bad old oil at home. Would seem odd to many.
                  Last edited by Drumbones; 05-05-2018, 07:57 PM.
                  Just enjoying another day in paradise.

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                  • Originally posted by Drumbones View Post
                    Edmonton is fighting with BC to get good old oil over to burnaby and the harbor while at the same time switching to electric buses to not use bad old oil at home. Would seem odd to many.
                    Everything seems odd by many. Many people aren’t very thoughtful about much. They’re just driven by emotion, not reason.

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                    • Originally posted by KC View Post
                      Originally posted by Drumbones View Post
                      Edmonton is fighting with BC to get good old oil over to burnaby and the harbor while at the same time switching to electric buses to not use bad old oil at home. Would seem odd to many.
                      Everything seems odd by many. Many people aren’t very thoughtful about much. They’re just driven by emotion, not reason.
                      Oil is used for more than just gasoline. Your plastic garbage containers or outdoor furniture are just few examples. We still need tires until space flights come into affect, and that would be sometime yet.
                      " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

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                      • Originally posted by KC View Post
                        Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
                        OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.

                        It's simply pointing out that when you have the power centralized, it's faster and easier to change policies. Compare the provincial run BC transit system to the Alberta model of every town and city running their own. Look at how long it's taking to come up with an integrated transit system for the Edmonton area.

                        But sure, let's bring dictatorships into it as a reason why we shouldn't go for a region wide system. Because that's what the Chinese do.
                        “OK, so people shouldn't switch to electric buses because the Chinese are doing so and they're a dictatorship. I imagine that they also provide medical service for the Chinese people so we shouldn't do that either.”

                        You sure have some weird beliefs.

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                        • Originally posted by Drumbones View Post
                          Edmonton is fighting with BC to get good old oil over to burnaby and the harbor while at the same time switching to electric buses to not use bad old oil at home. Would seem odd to many.
                          It's time to switch to coal powered buses!

                          KC says that we shouldn't switch to electric buses because China is using them and yet Kinder Morgan would primarily ship bitumen to China. Shouldn't we then refuse to sell them oil instead?

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