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  • #16
    A robot tax? WTH?
    Animals are my passion.

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    • #17
      It's not a new idea.

      https://qz.com/911968/bill-gates-the...uld-pay-taxes/

      But what does Bill Gates know about money & how to run a successful business?
      Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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      • #18
        Originally posted by noodle View Post
        It's not a new idea.

        https://qz.com/911968/bill-gates-the...uld-pay-taxes/

        But what does Bill Gates know about money & how to run a successful business?
        No, it is not. But it is misguided.

        Let's not hide behind a big name, like Bill Gates, and really think through what this robot tax represents and how it can be implemented.

        First of all, read the Gates' interview. What he is saying is terrifying. He says because people are scared of losing their jobs, let's slow down the rate of innovation by taxing it. This will give people more time to get used to the new technology. However; if we have a problem it is in fact the opposite. The western economies, and Canada in particular, is facing an stagnant productivity growth. There has not been much innovation to speak of. This notion that robots are killing jobs have been repeatedly debunked. In the words of Peter Thiel, we were promised flying cars but got 140 characters instead. Just pick up a book or a futuristic movie from 60's and see their utopian/dystopian visions of the new millennia. "The American Challenge", a widely popular book published in 1967, first in France, and then translated widely, by Jean-Jacques Servan-Schreiber warned of an impending takeover of the Europe by the US due to the astounding rate of innovation growth. It didn't pan out like that, but fun to read it in hindsight:



        In 30 years America will be a post-industrial society with a per capita income of $7,500. There will be only four work days a week of seven hours per day. The year will be comprised of 39 work weeks and 13 weeks of vacation. With weekends and holidays this makes 147 work days a year and 218 free days. All this within a single generation
        Second, again look at Gates' idea. His solution is the robot tax is used to train people for elderly care and school teaching. Really? That's it? That's all the jobs left for humans to do? But how many of these nursing and teaching jobs we need and how many people in fact are interested in those jobs. This is a very pessimist view of future.

        Third, practically speaking this proposal is challenged from all fronts. What is a robot? Those sci-fi humanoids in our imagination don't exist. Is the Roomba vacuum in your house a robot? Did you pay a tax already (sales tax) to buy it, or should you be taxed for not instead hiring a maid? The coffee machine in your home? Is the self-check out at Wal-Mart a robot? Is the touch-screen from which you can now order your McDonald's in the store a robot? Is the app from which you order a takeout a robot? Is the excel spreadsheet or the calendar of you e-mail that allows you to book meetings robots? Where is the line?

        This is one rebuttal of the Gate's interview (also from 2017, like Gate's interview), but again, let's think things through ourselves. Of course, respecting the words of business leaders like Gates is part of the process. But le't not stop just there.

        https://www.theguardian.com/sustaina...ake-it-pay-tax

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        • #19
          There will be only four work days a week of seven hours per day. The year will be comprised of 39 work weeks and 13 weeks of vacation. With weekends and holidays this makes 147 work days a year and 218 free days.
          That's literally my brother-in-law's work schedule in 2019, as an engineer in Sweden, except he works 8 hour days, 4 days a week.
          Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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