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  • Is it ok for the Governor General to mock religion?

    As this article points out, she mocked god as a concept, and also mocked astrology. But she didn’t mock the great bear spirt in Jumbo Valley. Would the Liberal elites have laughed if she had?

    http://nationalpost.com/opinion/chri...#comments-area

    Curiously she also attacked homeopathy, which is nonesense, but it’s a nonesense her bosses the Queen and Prince Charles both believe in.

    I am an atheist, and I don’t like monarchy, but I am not sure it makes sense to have a GG giving speeches that imply everyone who isn’t (eg Justin Trudeau who is Catholic), is ignorant. It’s worth watching the speech, one of those interesting speeches where as much is said by the body language (rolling eyes) as the words.

    If Trudeau and the Liberals want to come out and say that Allah and Jehovah / Jesus and Buddha and Odin and Apollo and the Great Bear Spirit are all nonesense, great, I’ll cheer them on - but you don’t need to appoint someone to the GG position to say it for you.
    Last edited by moahunter; 04-11-2017, 06:25 AM.

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    I agree with just about everything she said. But she should not have said much of it, given that she's supposed to be above politics and many people would vehemently disagree with much of what she said. Someone's got to tell her to dial it back a bit.

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    • #3
      No, it's not okay.
      Animals are my passion.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by H.L. View Post
        No, it's not okay.
        Agree that it’s politically incorrect.

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        • #5
          Funny that it seems that half the world engages in what is being called mockery of others beliefs (capitalism, socialism, religion, etc. etc. etc.) The current US president among many more before him have even legitimized mockery as the way of winners.

          It may be Kelly McParland that “must learn”. As well, that the GG is appointed by our Queen upon a PM recommendation. (Another one of those subtleties.)


          Kelly McParland: Payette must learn mockery is not the correct response to different opinions
          Kelly McParlandKelly McParland
          November 3, 2017 2:59 PM EDT

          http://nationalpost.com/opinion/kell...erent-opinions
          Last edited by KC; 04-11-2017, 09:33 AM.

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          • #6
            That's appalling coming from the GG. If she had made that speech not as the GG nobody would of been any the wiser except the people in the hall. The GG is the Queens representative in Canada and is supposed to speak for the Queen. The Queen would never make a speech like that in public. Payette should exercise a little decorum. How well was she vetted before she was offered the job. Remember when Big Tater gave the finger to those protesters in BC. Well, is this Tater Tot's finger to the public by appointing someone who has no filters.
            Last edited by Gemini; 04-11-2017, 10:31 AM.
            Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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            • #7
              i’m don’t believe she was mocking religion in the manner that trump mocks individuals... i think the comparison would be to a well run forum - you can respond or react to the post or to the idea, not to the poster. in that light, not only am i fine with her positions, i think if governments and government representatives were prepared to do this more often or had started it decades or even centuries ago then the world would be a better place. we all have the right and the freedom to believe whatever we want to believe and that includes the right to be wrong. but if i choose to believe in the non-existence of gravity, our government and our media and our schools shouldn’t be expected to teach and support that belief simply because i hold it.
              "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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              • #8
                ^Well, I am sure you have heard the expression 'this is not the time or place'. That should have been the way it was for her speech. She is supposed to represent the Queen and the Queen would not have made a speech like that. If you are the father of the bride when you make the wedding toast surely you don't start to harp on about your job, your money woes, your love life etc. Time, place. Payette should maybe think twice before she speaks as she speaks for the Queen and what the Queen stands for.
                Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Gemini View Post
                  That's appalling coming from the GG. If she had made that speech not as the GG nobody would of been any the wiser except the people in the hall. The GG is the Queens representative in Canada and is supposed to speak for the Queen. The Queen would never make a speech like that in public. Payette should exercise a little decorum. How well was she vetted before she was offered the job. Remember when Big Tater gave the finger to those protesters in BC. Well, is this Tater Tot's finger to the public by appointing someone who has no filters.

                  Good post! This person won't even acknowledge if she supports the monarchy. His judgement is way off, as is hers by the sound of it!
                  Animals are my passion.

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                  • #10
                    I am not OK with mocking religion.

                    Some scholars and atheists scoff at religion and state if you are a scientist that you can't believe. Well it is a fact some of the greatest minds in science believe in God. A local example is Dr. Don Page at the UofA Physics Department. He is one of the world's great Cosmologists who edits and challenges Stephen Hawkins theories and books. Page stars that the more he studies the universe and dark matter, the more he believes in God.
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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by H.L. View Post
                      Originally posted by Gemini View Post
                      That's appalling coming from the GG. If she had made that speech not as the GG nobody would of been any the wiser except the people in the hall. The GG is the Queens representative in Canada and is supposed to speak for the Queen. The Queen would never make a speech like that in public. Payette should exercise a little decorum. How well was she vetted before she was offered the job. Remember when Big Tater gave the finger to those protesters in BC. Well, is this Tater Tot's finger to the public by appointing someone who has no filters.

                      Good post! This person won't even acknowledge if she supports the monarchy. His judgement is way off, as is hers by the sound of it!
                      It's like when Tater Tots wife Mrs. Potato Head wailing a song about her daughter during a Martin Luther King Tribute. Totally wrong. Libs love to make it all about them and if they are famous/political/rich libs they gloat even more. Payette is just a reflection of that.
                      Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
                        I am not OK with mocking religion.

                        Some scholars and atheists scoff at religion and state if you are a scientist that you can't believe. Well it is a fact some of the greatest minds in science believe in God. A local example is Dr. Don Page at the UofA Physics Department. He is one of the world's great Cosmologists who edits and challenges Stephen Hawkins theories and books. Page stars that the more he studies the universe and dark matter, the more he believes in God.
                        i don't think she was mocking religion in the sense you're not okay with...

                        there's a big difference between dr. don page stating that "the more he studies the universe and dark matter, the more he believes in God" and those who use their belief in something to preclude studying the universe or dark matter or anything else or anyone else from studying the universe or dark matter or anything else.

                        unquestioning belief to the exclusion of anything else whether that belief is in the form of religion or horoscopes and then allowing that belief to take precedence over all other potential thought or free will is what's not okay.
                        "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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                        • #13
                          the only acceptable norm left that society accepts is mocking religions. There's so much that society doesnt accept anymore but when it comes to bashing Christians or other religions its perfectly okay.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by gwill211 View Post
                            the only acceptable norm left that society accepts is mocking religions. There's so much that society doesnt accept anymore but when it comes to bashing Christians or other religions its perfectly okay.

                            Yes, I think that's true.
                            I'm not religious, but many of my friends/family are.
                            Animals are my passion.

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                            • #15
                              Its interesting that Payette is talking about free thought and not being echo chambers while being one in the Evolution vs Creationism debate. I side with evolution myself but have always welcomed critiques of it, or more erudite defenses of alternate philosophies.

                              Its interesting as well that Payette considers evolution scientific fact. It is still a theory. Indeed its the critique of any theory that furthers science and debate and where clear inconsistencies are found the theory could be further developed and expanded on, or parts therein refuted.

                              People speaking about Scientific Process should consider it is a process. Human knowledge, and by product science, is not omniscient at this stage. As much as we like to think it is.
                              "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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