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  • #46
    Outside of a few whiners on this forum, nobody cares...
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    • #47
      Originally posted by EdmTrekker View Post
      Some people are such jerks - like they have never made a slip up in their lives. As a 4th generation Alberta I don't have any concern - it was a hectic day for the PM. The last thing Alberta needs is hysterical trumpettes trying to make an issue out of this - when it's not. Most Albertans are not snivelling little whiners thankfully.
      That's convenient as a copout. Except for one thing. When a mistake like this occurs its most often in regards to Alberta. This province has replaced Newfoundland (remember those inappropriate jokes) as the laughingstock of Canada. With everybody LOVING to take a dig at Alberta or Albertans. My suspicion is this wasn't accidental. Because TARGETING Alberta is politically viable in this country. Give Alberta the gears in some way, or in some speech, or make it the butt of a national joke and theres actual political mileage in it. Trudeau actually benefits from this and gets more votes outside of Alberta for this inside joke on Alberta. Those doubting this kind of thing should travel the nation more. You won't see one other province in confederation that gets targeted more than Albertans. Especially in Quebec. Both Trudeaus have had contempt for Alberta and have exhibited it regularly. There isn't this type of mileage with other provinces, there is with Alberta. Not being paranoid stating that. Alberta targeting occurs in this country regularly. It certainly occurs politically.
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      • #48
        ^ yes. It's all a conspiracy. Everything on this forum is a conspiracy too.

        People get a hold of yourselves. Lol
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        • #49
          Originally posted by EdmTrekker View Post
          As a 4th generation Alberta I don't have any concern - it was a hectic day for the PM.
          Oh, I see it was just a hectic day. Not that he is an imbecile.

          A greater man like Stephen Harper sure wouldn't have made that mistake.

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          • #50
            Originally posted by Bill View Post
            Outside of Alberta, nobody cares.
            Well duh, of course they don't! Commenting on the obvious..lol
            Animals are my passion.

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            • #51
              Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
              Originally posted by EdmTrekker View Post
              As a 4th generation Alberta I don't have any concern - it was a hectic day for the PM.
              Oh, I see it was just a hectic day. Not that he is an imbecile.

              A greater man like Stephen Harper sure wouldn't have made that mistake.
              He did say he got excited, poor tater tot, a camera in his face and he wets himself with joy..lol!
              Animals are my passion.

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              • #52
                He just wasn't ready.

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                • #53
                  To think Trudeau intentionally omitted Alberta in his speech is foolish.

                  Ever make a speech in front of your co-workers? Suppose you received an award at work or your company achieved some milestone, and you had to make a congratulatory speech. When you stand up in the office, you're going to absolutely make sure you acknowledge that one co-worker who constantly whines and talks behind your back. Because if you don't, you are not going to hear the end of it.

                  It's not worth the aggravation.

                  "Let me also give a big shout out to Henry in payroll for being a team player in our office!"

                  Henry still hates you. But if you slip up he will judge you more.

                  Always have to coddle thin-skinned Henry.

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                  • #54
                    And the ultra thin skinned crybabies on the alt-right who can't accept that Trudeau won a sweeping majority and Harper lost HUGE.

                    Get over it.

                    Same list of characters who say the same thing about Trump and Clinton but just cry when the shoe is on the other foot.

                    It is comical that they whine so much because they feel so hurt over a minor gaffe that was an honest mistake that he corrected and apologized a moment later. He is the adult in the room full of crybabies.

                    Trudeau has averaged a 52.7 per cent approval rate in the three most recent polls, with 39.3 per cent disapproving of his performance.
                    https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4173056

                    Meanwhile, your American counterpart is polling in reverse numbers.
                    Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 04-07-2017, 05:40 AM.
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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by North Guy66 View Post
                      To think Trudeau intentionally omitted Alberta in his speech is foolish.

                      Ever make a speech in front of your co-workers? Suppose you received an award at work or your company achieved some milestone, and you had to make a congratulatory speech. When you stand up in the office, you're going to absolutely make sure you acknowledge that one co-worker who constantly whines and talks behind your back. Because if you don't, you are not going to hear the end of it.

                      It's not worth the aggravation.

                      "Let me also give a big shout out to Henry in payroll for being a team player in our office!"

                      Henry still hates you. But if you slip up he will judge you more.

                      Always have to coddle thin-skinned Henry.
                      I don't think he did it intentionally, its still pretty funny for little potato though..lol
                      Animals are my passion.

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                      • #56
                        Originally posted by North Guy66 View Post
                        To think Trudeau intentionally omitted Alberta in his speech is foolish.

                        Ever make a speech in front of your co-workers? Suppose you received an award at work or your company achieved some milestone, and you had to make a congratulatory speech. When you stand up in the office, you're going to absolutely make sure you acknowledge that one co-worker who constantly whines and talks behind your back. Because if you don't, you are not going to hear the end of it.

                        It's not worth the aggravation.

                        "Let me also give a big shout out to Henry in payroll for being a team player in our office!"

                        Henry still hates you. But if you slip up he will judge you more.

                        Always have to coddle thin-skinned Henry.
                        its foolish to think Alberta and Albertans get singled out? By Trudeaus? Oh why would I think that?

                        Now how would it be if this was Harper and he omitted Quebec. Guess what the most certain response to that would be. Guess how many liberal supporters posting in this thread that this is nothing would take that as some agenda or slight by Harper who was accused for much less.

                        This is the 150 speech for the nation of Canada. If one attempts to list in the context of a speech that is about inclusion, and diversity, and one goes onto list the provinces and territories then it is imminently silly to list all of them. But when one remembers such sparsely populated territories and even remembers to say Nunavut, AND state Newfoundland and Labrador, it seems odd one couldn't remember the rather significant province of Alberta sitting on the prairies bordering the rockies. One has to be reminded of that apparently by Sandra Oh.
                        "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
                          And the ultra thin skinned crybabies on the alt-right who can't accept that Trudeau won a sweeping majority and Harper lost HUGE.

                          Get over it.

                          Same list of characters who say the same thing about Trump and Clinton but just cry when the shoe is on the other foot.

                          It is comical that they whine so much because they feel so hurt over a minor gaffe that was an honest mistake that he corrected and apologized a moment later. He is the adult in the room full of crybabies.

                          Trudeau has averaged a 52.7 per cent approval rate in the three most recent polls, with 39.3 per cent disapproving of his performance.
                          https://www.google.ca/amp/www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4173056

                          Meanwhile, your American counterpart is polling in reverse numbers.
                          Present day North American politics selects for idiots and liars. Regardless of political stripe or affiliation. Politics has become more about voters being duped into what a politician or party will say they will do rather than what they will actually do. Plus approval ratings are merely indicative of a popularity contest. That they like somebody, on some level. Not relative to what they have actually done or delivered in office. Wheres electoral reform, you know where they are at on that, you know its not on the table. Do you attribute that to lies, dishonesty, improper evaluation, or just saying anything to get votes?
                          "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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                          • #58
                            This thread is both sad and hilarious at the same time.

                            In no way shape or form do I think that the omission of Alberta from the list of provinces was an intentional conspiracy theory on behalf of the Prime Minister or anybody else in his caucus or staff. Mistakes are made in speeches all the time. It's how you handle the fallout that is crucial.

                            But the bigger problem here is, an allegedly, most likely involuntary omission or gaffe is turned into a lot larger issue. Partisan politics rears its ugly head. I have had a colossal laugh over some folks on this thread who are going out of their way to minimize the gaffe as a simple mistake, yet insert the words Prime Minister Harper, Prime Minister Cameron, President Bush, VP candidate Sarah Palin, or any other on the political slant that is not of their liking, and the very same people on this thread you are minimizing Prime Minister Trudeau's gaffe would be all over these people like a stain. And yes, when I juxtapose this thread with the Trump thread(s), the flip-flop on opinions is just as noticeable.

                            Does everybody remember Dan Quayle? For those who don't, I will say spell potato. Look it up. Google it. If the Internet existed to the level that it does the day, I'll guarantee you the thread would look exactly like this except several of you who are now easily dismissing a most likely unintentional slipup would be absolutely eviscerating Dan Quayle. Look at how often the 2nd President Bush was portrayed as a goof, a dork, an *****, and anything else that would come out of any left-leaning politician. One that comes to mind is President Bush forgetting the order of, "fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me". In the middle of a heated speech, he slipped up. Yes, the result was hilarious, and even as President Bush was speaking it, he knew what was going on. He knew he made a mistake. Yet, I guarantee you that the vast majority of people dismissing this gaffe were absolutely pointing and laughing and calling President Bush incompetent, thin-skinned, and ridiculous.

                            The point here? We live in an incredibly divided political time. We waste an inordinate amount of time picking on political leaders, business leaders, celebrities, and even average citizens over gaffes. Even in Alberta, hard-core economic issues and infrastructure issues are often overlooked and fly under the radar as we spend all of our time screaming and hollering over a misplaced modifier or bad syntax. The media, forms, Facebook, Twitter, and every other form of media both traditional and modern is flooded with spam like conversations about the Kardashian groups latest thing, politicians making a loud whoop during a convention speech, you will believe the net worth of so and so, and you won't believe what this person looks like now. Our political and social discourses now about insults and belittling rather than results. The sad result, real conversations, real gaffes, real blunders then suddenly are either missed or easily excused as just another gaffe. You're seeing that more and more especially with our American cousins. They are so busy worrying about golden showers in Moscow that a lot of the real concerns are starting to slip under the radar yet again.

                            The other point? I mention how you handle this is crucial. There are times when an "aw shucks" is probably the best response. There are times when immediately rushing back to the stage and groveling or pandering would work. And then there are times where you make a political gaffe or a social gaffe that needs a calm and reasoned response delivered after little bit of time has passed. With this Alberta gaffe, the right response is not to suddenly shower Alberta with praise and false I love you's. It seems insincere and only fuels the cannon fodder that obviously is happening in our political discourse. A simple, humble apology would be best. Why? Because you know the history of "Western alienation" is definitely going to rear its ugly head, and the astute will do everything they can to appear humble rather than insincere.

                            Does this gaffe mean that myself and many others don't like Justin Trudeau now? No. This gaffe didn't sway anybody's opinion one way or another, which is another nail in the coffin of this whole thing being a silly mistake. Just like I know this blog post won't change a damn thing in the wonderful hypocritical race to see who can tease the other person's hero more over the most minor of infractions. I guess I get to continue to laugh while having to work hard in the background to see real change happen.
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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by Replacement View Post
                              its foolish to think Alberta and Albertans get singled out? By Trudeaus? Oh why would I think that?

                              Now how would it be if this was Harper and he omitted Quebec. Guess what the most certain response to that would be. Guess how many liberal supporters posting in this thread that this is nothing would take that as some agenda or slight by Harper who was accused for much less.

                              This is the 150 speech for the nation of Canada. If one attempts to list in the context of a speech that is about inclusion, and diversity, and one goes onto list the provinces and territories then it is imminently silly to list all of them. But when one remembers such sparsely populated territories and even remembers to say Nunavut, AND state Newfoundland and Labrador, it seems odd one couldn't remember the rather significant province of Alberta sitting on the prairies bordering the rockies. One has to be reminded of that apparently by Sandra Oh.
                              Your opening sentence is the root of Trudeau's image problem for some in Alberta. No matter what he does, he cannot rid of the resentment his late father created with the NEP. Get over it, that was 40 years ago.

                              I agree if Harper omitted Quebec in a speech, there would be a crap-storm from the haters. But you know what, if Justin omitted Quebec there still would be a crap-storm. Absolutely Quebec is the spoiled child in Canada that needs constant coddling. On the other hand if the PM forgot about Manitoba or New Brunswick, this would of been a non-story.

                              The bold quote just proves my earlier post. Because it is a big 150 Canada speech, it is ludicrous Trudeau wold intentionally diss Alberta. He simply had a slip-up, a gaffe. Some Albertans are reading too much into it.

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                              • #60
                                ^Everyone knows it was a mistake - but would Harper have made that mistake? Would Trudeau have ever forgotten Quebec, or B.C. or Ontario? It just illustrates that our current PM is from another place, the people who control him are elites in Ottawa - as has always been the case with the Liberal party. The move of the NEB from Alberta (where the energy industry dominates), to Ottawa, while at the same time putting the infrastructure bank in Toronto (where the finance industry dominates), just illustrates the hypocrisy and the regional divide - this is just a sad symptom of that.

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