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  • Would Legalization Turn Edmonton Back Into Redmonton?

    Given that Edmonton used to be referred to as "Redmonton" for its tendency to elect Liberals come election time. That tendency has largely ended in the last few years, given that it's tended to elect Conservatives at the federal level and a mix of PCs and NDPers at the provincial level, with only a couple of Liberals.

    However, I'm wondering what the effect of Justin Trudeau's promise to legalize pot if elected might have on his electoral chances out here, if Edmonton is supposedly more left-leaning than most of the rest of the province.

    Would pot legalization help or hinder any candidate that supported it?

    I'm not sure myself, but I'm curious to see what other people think.

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    I can see some younger voters choosing Liberal because of this. Unfortunately you're voting a party to make 4 years of decisions not only one though, so I wish people would look at all the party's policies and try and make the choice that best fits them.

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    • #3
      Aside from Trudeau wanting to legalize pot, I don't get the link between "Red" and legalization. They are two separate issues. As a fiscal conservative, I am staunchly in support of legalizing all drugs (there is a thread on it I started), not just pot, as I think the market should decide, and then we can tax it, and invest in it legally. I have no qualms about making money off adicts, just like our province doesn't (casinos), although I'd like a hefty chunk of the revenue to go into drug prevention, and rehabilitation.

      Like sundance though, I don't think its enough of an issue on its own to make me vote one party or the other, it might tip the balance though, its not imposible I could vote Trudeau (for example, if he offered a hefty tax break like previous Liberal governments, that would catch my attention more).
      Last edited by moahunter; 11-09-2014, 08:20 AM.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Jared View Post
        Given that Edmonton used to be referred to as "Redmonton" for its tendency to elect Liberals come election time. That tendency has largely ended in the last few years, given that it's tended to elect Conservatives at the federal level and a mix of PCs and NDPers at the provincial level, with only a couple of Liberals.

        However, I'm wondering what the effect of Justin Trudeau's promise to legalize pot if elected might have on his electoral chances out here, if Edmonton is supposedly more left-leaning than most of the rest of the province.

        Would pot legalization help or hinder any candidate that supported it?

        I'm not sure myself, but I'm curious to see what other people think.
        The Liberal party is tanking in popularity both provincially and federally according to the opinion polls that is why the NDP are courting Edmonton. Justin Trudeau's last name could have more to do with the situation because legalizing pot certainly isn't helping.
        “Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan

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        • #5
          "Liberal party is tanking federally" - Really? Where are you getting those good (currently illegal) drugs?
          http://www.threehundredeight.com/p/canada.html
          "A new poll from Forum Research for the Toronto Star shows the Liberals leading with 40% support, down one point from Forum's previous poll of August 18-19. The Conservatives were up two points to 34%, while the NDP was up one point to 18%. None of these shifts were outside the margin of error."
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          • #6
            Originally posted by andrew View Post
            "Liberal party is tanking federally" - Really? Where are you getting those good (currently illegal) drugs?
            http://www.threehundredeight.com/p/canada.html
            "A new poll from Forum Research for the Toronto Star shows the Liberals leading with 40% support, down one point from Forum's previous poll of August 18-19. The Conservatives were up two points to 34%, while the NDP was up one point to 18%. None of these shifts were outside the margin of error."
            I was referring to the Province of Alberta specifically.
            “Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan

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            • #7
              Don't hold your breath for junior to do anything on this front.
              Liberals have been talking about de-criminalization since the LeDain commision in 1970.
              Chretien promised to de-criminalize in 2003 and junior voted for bill C 15 in 2009.
              The federal liberals have been talking about this and campaigning on it since 1970.
              Seeing as how the Liberals had majorities for 22 years post 1970 I have very little faith in their sincerity when it comes to this issue.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Jared View Post
                Given that Edmonton used to be referred to as "Redmonton" for its tendency to elect Liberals come election time. That tendency has largely ended in the last few years, given that it's tended to elect Conservatives at the federal level and a mix of PCs and NDPers at the provincial level, with only a couple of Liberals.

                However, I'm wondering what the effect of Justin Trudeau's promise to legalize pot if elected might have on his electoral chances out here, if Edmonton is supposedly more left-leaning than most of the rest of the province.

                Would pot legalization help or hinder any candidate that supported it?

                I'm not sure myself, but I'm curious to see what other people think.
                Is it left leaning or right leaning? It might cut a lot of expensive government jobs, and create a lot more small business jobs, create a new export product, increase liberties... All right wing stuff.

                In other words, I bet if Harper had proposed it, the left would be screaming.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ralph60 View Post
                  Don't hold your breath for junior to do anything on this front.
                  Liberals have been talking about de-criminalization since the LeDain commision in 1970.
                  Chretien promised to de-criminalize in 2003 and junior voted for bill C 15 in 2009.
                  The federal liberals have been talking about this and campaigning on it since 1970.
                  Seeing as how the Liberals had majorities for 22 years post 1970 I have very little faith in their sincerity when it comes to this issue.
                  The Liberals have whole books full of broken promises.

                  Anyway, didn't the US step up the pressure in 2003 and effectively forced Canada to drop the issue? And gosh, look at how now they've jumped out way ahead of us in creating a new industry. Give it time and the market will be owned by some large, now totally legitimized, Republican supported businesses seeking to legalize it in Canada so they can seize the market.

                  BTW, I'm allergic to smoke and am a former donor to the Non-smokers Rights Association, but I'd legalize and regulate it to grab the money away from the corrupt, rich drug lords ( who are likely corrupting police and politicians). Prohibition failed and our forebearers were much faster at recognizing a failed policy when they saw it. We also need to rethink how we educate, regulate and treat alcohol.
                  Last edited by KC; 11-09-2014, 10:00 PM.

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                  • #10
                    We'd be called Weedmonton!
                    "Talk minus action equals zero." - Joe Keithley, D. O. A.

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                    • #11
                      It is federal so more like Cannabisnada

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by KC View Post
                        Originally posted by Jared View Post
                        Given that Edmonton used to be referred to as "Redmonton" for its tendency to elect Liberals come election time. That tendency has largely ended in the last few years, given that it's tended to elect Conservatives at the federal level and a mix of PCs and NDPers at the provincial level, with only a couple of Liberals.

                        However, I'm wondering what the effect of Justin Trudeau's promise to legalize pot if elected might have on his electoral chances out here, if Edmonton is supposedly more left-leaning than most of the rest of the province.

                        Would pot legalization help or hinder any candidate that supported it?

                        I'm not sure myself, but I'm curious to see what other people think.
                        Is it left leaning or right leaning? It might cut a lot of expensive government jobs, and create a lot more small business jobs, create a new export product, increase liberties... All right wing stuff.

                        In other words, I bet if Harper had proposed it, the left would be screaming.

                        Maybe in the retail end lots of small guys but the only applications being accepted currently for growing are very large( and soon to become massive corporations)

                        Big business will be the majority stakeholders in this type of enterprise going forward not the burnt out hippies still living in their parents basement watching possibilities pass them by lol

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                        • #13
                          If the government was smart we should put any restrictions in place before legalization.

                          Like workers should be able to work in an influence free workplace.(bring on more a&d testing for jobs)

                          Also the insurance companies should get some healthy clauses for themselves for increased life insurance policies and such

                          Better police enforcement/ detection for high and driving( there's an ad on the radio about 40% ? Of youth high and driving?) let's make sure we establish safe guidelines before legalization and then spending decades being reactive cleaning up a mess of lack of policies

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by KC View Post
                            Originally posted by ralph60 View Post
                            Don't hold your breath for junior to do anything on this front.
                            Liberals have been talking about de-criminalization since the LeDain commision in 1970.
                            Chretien promised to de-criminalize in 2003 and junior voted for bill C 15 in 2009.
                            The federal liberals have been talking about this and campaigning on it since 1970.
                            Seeing as how the Liberals had majorities for 22 years post 1970 I have very little faith in their sincerity when it comes to this issue.
                            The Liberals have whole books full of broken promises.

                            Anyway, didn't the US step up the pressure in 2003 and effectively forced Canada to drop the issue? And gosh, look at how now they've jumped out way ahead of us in creating a new industry. Give it time and the market will be owned by some large, now totally legitimized, Republican supported businesses seeking to legalize it in Canada so they can seize the market.

                            BTW, I'm allergic to smoke and am a former donor to the Non-smokers Rights Association, but I'd legalize and regulate it to grab the money away from the corrupt, rich drug lords ( who are likely corrupting police and politicians). Prohibition failed and our forebearers were much faster at recognizing a failed policy when they saw it. We also need to rethink how we educate, regulate and treat alcohol.
                            Ah, but Harper loves to adopt far-right US policies that have been shown to be absolute failures.
                            I think of art, at its most significant, as a Distant Early Warning system that can always be relied on to tell the old culture what is beginning to happen to it. —Marshall McLuhan

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                            • #15
                              I know they have my vote

                              The fact I can go to prison for a personal adult choice that effects only myself is mind boggling.

                              Free the weed!!
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