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  • Liberal senators want the political correctness thought police watching Mounties

    I am very glad this group of unelected #$%$% will no longer have power:

    http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1476809/

    Mounties should have cameras on their uniforms, senators say
    A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer walks in the foyer of the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa on January 29, 2010.
    Position paper released by Liberal members of Senate security committee calls for better oversight of RCMP, along with more funding and increased diversity
    If we want police to have some flexibility to actually make our streets safer, the last thing we need is the political correctness thought police watching over every action they take.

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    How about the senators wear one, then we can keep tabs on what they're doing.
    Mayor Mandel is a immature childish man

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    • #3
      I am all for increased "diversity", but not at the expense of turning down perfectly good RCMP applicants because they don't fit some kind of pre-determined genetic profile.

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      • #4
        Great idea! I support this 100%
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        • #5
          Originally posted by Komrade View Post
          Great idea! I support this 100%
          And why do you support it? Does this help prevent us from going into a Police State?

          And just how much would this cost taxpayers? What benefit would it be? Maybe we should instead force convicted criminals or even just repeat-offenders to wear these devices instead of the RCMP.
          A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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          • #6
            I support us because it will continue to ensure the police are doing their job correctly and can continue to improve service and relations with the police and general public.

            It will ensure any situation where mis-conduct is accused to be properly investigated with sufficient evidence that is not based on 'he-said, she-said'

            It is yet another step to ensure the citizens that police power is never abused, and when is can be held accountable.
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            • #7
              ^ With the added bonus of protecting the police from allegations leveled against them.
              Strathcona City Separatist

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              • #8
                Originally posted by RTA View Post
                ^ With the added bonus of protecting the police from allegations leveled against them.
                Exactly. Personally I support this. A policeman doing his job properly should have nothing to lose from this, and everything to gain. It would provide evidence to exonerate them or defend them from accusations of misconduct, if indeed the accusation was false or exaggerated.

                I have no idea what "political correctness" has to do with this. At the very least, why not have them mic'd up so there's at least audio records of their actions?

                But this aside, it's pretty obvious in the past couple years that the RCMP have some pretty fundamental problems, and cameras aren't going to fix those.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
                  Exactly. Personally I support this. A policeman doing his job properly should have nothing to lose from this, and everything to gain. It would provide evidence to exonerate them or defend them from accusations of misconduct, if indeed the accusation was false or exaggerated.
                  So would you support as Medwards suggested, that we put cameras on convicted criminals? They are much more likely to commit a serious crime, than a Mountie is. Or, how about security guards, or prison officers? Could make for a good reality TV show though I guess, or perhaps they could open it up like big brother, and have public Mountie voyeurism on the web?

                  To me, this would just show a total lack of trust and respect for the 99% of Mounties who don't abuse their position. I have no issue with a camera that films everyone in public equally in an anonymous way, but when you start picking certain people as being "bad", and require them to be followed around with a camera, then I think it is getting pretty sad.
                  Last edited by moahunter; 23-02-2010, 09:32 AM.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
                    I am all for increased "diversity", but not at the expense of turning down perfectly good RCMP applicants because they don't fit some kind of pre-determined genetic profile.
                    Huh? Cameras on cops = a comment on hiring?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Libarbarian View Post
                      Huh? Cameras on cops = a comment on hiring?
                      The same senate body commented on both.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Libarbarian View Post
                        Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
                        I am all for increased "diversity", but not at the expense of turning down perfectly good RCMP applicants because they don't fit some kind of pre-determined genetic profile.
                        Huh? Cameras on cops = a comment on hiring?
                        I wasn't commenting on cameras. The same article recommends targeted hiring to increase diversity, which I commented on.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                          Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
                          Exactly. Personally I support this. A policeman doing his job properly should have nothing to lose from this, and everything to gain. It would provide evidence to exonerate them or defend them from accusations of misconduct, if indeed the accusation was false or exaggerated.
                          To me, this would just show a total lack of trust and respect for the 99% of Mounties who don't abuse their position. I have no issue with a camera that films everyone in public equally in an anonymous way, but when you start picking certain people as being "bad", and require them to be followed around with a camera, then I think it is getting pretty sad.
                          Bull! What does this have to do with trust? My government should trust me yet Im monitored on multiple cameras in every facet of my every day life. I have done nothing wrong. Am I being picked on as 'bad'?

                          This helps the RCMP if anything. If you a good cop and you play by the rules, this shouldnt bother you at all. What do you have to loose if you do everything properly?
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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                            I am very glad this group of unelected #$%$% will no longer have power:

                            http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/...rticle1476809/

                            Mounties should have cameras on their uniforms, senators say
                            A Royal Canadian Mounted Police officer walks in the foyer of the Supreme Court of Canada in Ottawa on January 29, 2010.
                            Position paper released by Liberal members of Senate security committee calls for better oversight of RCMP, along with more funding and increased diversity
                            If we want police to have some flexibility to actually make our streets safer, the last thing we need is the political correctness thought police watching over every action they take.
                            The thread title, your reaction to the story, and the list of reccommendations do not match.

                            This has nothing to do with the thought police. It has everything to do with transparency and oversight on the one hand and an effective use of technology as a crime fighting tool on the other.

                            The hiring of women and minorities bit... it does not say that the standards should be lowered. It says that the RCMP should become an option for more qualified people who are women and/ or in the minority. I did not read anywhere that a qualified candidate who isn't a female or a member of a minority will be turned down.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                              Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
                              Exactly. Personally I support this. A policeman doing his job properly should have nothing to lose from this, and everything to gain. It would provide evidence to exonerate them or defend them from accusations of misconduct, if indeed the accusation was false or exaggerated.
                              So would you support as Medwards suggested, that we put cameras on convicted criminals? They are much more likely to commit a serious crime, than a Mountie is. Or, how about security guards, or prison officers? Could make for a good reality TV show though I guess, or perhaps they could open it up like big brother, and have public Mountie voyeurism on the web?

                              To me, this would just show a total lack of trust and respect for the 99% of Mounties who don't abuse their position. I have no issue with a camera that films everyone in public equally in an anonymous way, but when you start picking certain people as being "bad", and require them to be followed around with a camera, then I think it is getting pretty sad.
                              What about cashiers at wall mart or dealers in a casino? They have cameras on them. Many people are monitored at work. Why should police be any different, especially since they're dealing directly with criminals. Are the cameras pointed at the officers? No, they're pointed at the criminals. From a tactical perspective, you can have a control board organizing officers if they were in pursuit of someone. With GPS and cameras, it'd be really efficient. I don't see this as spying on them whatsoever but just another tool to ensure their safety.

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