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  • Kinistinâw Park - Quarters

    Kinistinâw Park will be built in two phases. The first phase is the block on the east side of the Armature (96 Street), between 102A Avenue to the north side of 103 Avenue. Phase 2 will also be along the Armature, but the exact location is still being finalized.

    As part of The Quarters Downtown redevelopment, the City of Edmonton is working on a new park for the area, called Kinistinâw Park. The goal of this park is to create a community space for people to gather and to attract further redevelopment to the area.

    Project Goals and Objectives:

    Improve connectivity to open spaces within the Quarters Downtown

    Make the Armature and Kinistinâw Park a focal point and a year-round gathering place in The Quarters Downtown

    Use environmentally friendly sustainable landscape design practices

    Ensure the publicly accessible open space is designed, maintained, and managed to help keep it vibrant, safe, and clean.

    Future : Design and construction pending funding approval

    Spring 2017 : Community Engagement - Design Direction of Phase 1

    Winter 2017 : Community Engagement - Preliminary Design of Phase 1

    Fill out the survey!!!

    https://www.edmonton.ca/projects_pla...inaw-park.aspx


    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  • #2
    In case someone else wonders "Where did 'Armature' come from?" like I did:

    ar·ma·ture/ˈärməCHər,-ˌCHo͝or/

    noun
    1. the rotating coil or coils of a dynamo or electric motor.
    2. a metal framework on which a sculpture is molded with clay or similar material.
    3. the protective covering of an animal or plant.
    I assume definition #2 is their target. Or someone just thought it sounded cool.
    I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    • #3
      Originally posted by IanO View Post
      Unless you're over 54.
      I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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      • #4
        I have made a suggestion that it, Boyle Ren, and LMP all have 3-4 stations for outdoor fitness so that you can do a bit of a circuit. EPS and FIRE could use it many months of the year to have those specific eyes on the street as well as seniors in the area. I was overwhelmed by the amazing outdoor fitness parks in Shanghai.


        Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Spudly View Post
          Originally posted by IanO View Post
          Unless you're over 54.
          Such a poorly constructed survey. Besides the above age discrimination, the lack of specifics made it difficult to fill out. I had no groundbreaking ideas for a new park other than greenery, fountains, security and multi-use capabilities.
          “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
            Originally posted by Spudly View Post
            Originally posted by IanO View Post
            Unless you're over 54.
            Such a poorly constructed survey. Besides the above age discrimination, the lack of specifics made it difficult to fill out. I had no groundbreaking ideas for a new park other than greenery, fountains, security and multi-use capabilities.
            i passed 54 a long time ago (not sure whether that deserves a or a ) so my opinion might not matter much but...

            a pocket park here might be quite lovely here one day when it's not in the middle of nothing but it's not going to be a catalyst.

            the quarters plan was supposed to be a catalyst (and before that the plan for jasper east village).

            the armature was supposed to be a catalyst (and will hopefully have an impact now that it's actually open and providing access instead of blocking it).

            if we want a park connection to be a catalyst, instead of focusing on kinistinaw, the armature - or at least the pedestrian portions of it - should be extended north and curved west through mary burley park in a manner that then connects chinatown north with chinatown south and also ties in with the multi-use trail from clareview as it enters downtown. done right that would provide river valley access and connections to that network (including the proposed river walk etc.).
            "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kcantor View Post

              a pocket park here might be quite lovely here one day when it's not in the middle of nothing but it's not going to be a catalyst.

              the quarters plan was supposed to be a catalyst (and before that the plan for jasper east village).

              the armature was supposed to be a catalyst (and will hopefully have an impact now that it's actually open and providing access instead of blocking it).
              My comments were along the exact same lines. And when they see the park has done nothing, they'll think up something else that'll definitely fire up development.

              Not that a park, or "armature" are not great features for any neighbourhood, but I question their effect as being incentives to any type of development. As if landowners in the quarters have been sitting idle all these years waiting for the city to plop down a park before they move forward on anything.

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              • #8
                I agree that a park should follow - not try to lead - additional redevelopment in the Quarters. Otherwise, the park risks attracting the type of crime and disorder that was entrenched in Boyle Street Park prior to its redevelopment.

                In any case, a park should not extend any further north than 103 Avenue. Batoma Place, a relatively new affordable housing facility, is located on the NE corner of 96 Street and 103 avenue. It's hard to believe that anyone in the City thinks demolishing Batoma Place to make way for a park is a sensible idea.

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                • #9
                  I'd like to entertain everyone's ideas for how we encourage development of this area asides from this Park, Hyatt, and the Armature. We badly need an infill of mixed retail, commercial, and population influx here. I would love to see a little urban village of walkups and perhaps a few towers.
                  There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Stevey_G View Post
                    I'd like to entertain everyone's ideas for how we encourage development of this area asides from this Park, Hyatt, and the Armature. We badly need an infill of mixed retail, commercial, and population influx here. I would love to see a little urban village of walkups and perhaps a few towers.
                    I agree. The area needs more and bigger buildings to fill up the empty lots and also replace or upgrade some of the older, smaller and run down buildings in the area. It has a great location close to downtown, so it has potential. Parks are not some kind of magic talisman that are a cure for all ills.

                    I don't know the solution here, but perhaps the city should take the approach to residential development in this area that it took many years ago to downtown as a whole - sometimes it takes financial incentives to get the ball rolling.

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                    • #11
                      Investing in and building infrastructure before development occurs has been proven to work, but it comes with many *.

                      I really hope that the artist tower gets going later this year to help begin the change, but it needs 3-4 more buildings along there to get things going.


                      Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by IanO View Post
                        Investing in and building infrastructure before development occurs has been proven to work, but it comes with many *.

                        I really hope that the artist tower gets going later this year to help begin the change, but it needs 3-4 more buildings along there to get things going.
                        I think you're right. I don't think a park is but they definitely make an area more attractive and "sellable".

                        Personally I feel you're going to see in the future legislation capping development to ensure certain amounts of outward growth of the city. Say; for this amount of population per square km we can develop and expand the city this much". It's bound to happen considering the way that we are growing is unsustainable and when that time comes centralized areas in proximity to mass transit will become much more equitable.

                        However I don't want to wait on bureaucracy and market economics. I want to do everything we can to force this area into appeal and we've got four good projects that will help do that. I'm just hoping investment in the core isn't tapped out due to the economy.
                        There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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                        • #13
                          You don't want to wait for development to be politically prudent (aka bureaucracy) and you don't want to wait for the invisible hand of the market (economics), so what exactly are you hoping for? Philanthropy? Magic beans? Wishing on falling stars?
                          Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by noodle View Post
                            You don't want to wait for development to be politically prudent (aka bureaucracy) and you don't want to wait for the invisible hand of the market (economics), so what exactly are you hoping for? Philanthropy? Magic beans? Wishing on falling stars?
                            Ah. Aren't you that guy that goes around commenting on things while not offering any substance to the conversation? If you read what I wrote I said those things all will take time - decades for the matter. So I'm okay with these ambitious redevelopment projects going up and doing what they're doing to revitalize the area.


                            I read what you write Noodle; you're capable of generating some good ideas from time to time. Instead of sarcasm I'd much rather hear your take on what can be further done to redevelop the area.
                            There was no need to change that plaque. We are the City of Champions.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Stevey_G View Post
                              Ah. Aren't you that guy that goes around commenting on things while not offering any substance to the conversation? If you read what I wrote I said those things all will take time - decades for the matter. So I'm okay with these ambitious redevelopment projects going up and doing what they're doing to revitalize the area.


                              I read what you write Noodle; you're capable of generating some good ideas from time to time. Instead of sarcasm I'd much rather hear your take on what can be further done to redevelop the area.
                              Honestly, it's the tireless efforts of developers like Ken who'll do the most to revitalize the area, one small project at a time as the market supports it, not yet more grandiose & nebulous mass revitalization projects paid for by the public with little thought about the end result or the opportunity cost of continuing to artificially try and prop up Downtown in a city that frankly will never revolve around the core.
                              Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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