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  • Should we allow things like this along the river?

    So Vancouver is about to open a cactus club on a beach in english bay, but no Edmonton, don't touch the river valley.


    (http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/8494/cactusclub.jpg)


    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  • #2
    Yes. Develop the river valley near the central part of the city. It's so big and such a waste of space if it's left as it is right now. Build cafes/attractions like that and increase the desire for people to visit it. I like running in the rivervalley and it's naturally beauty and so on. But there needs to be more there.

    Undoubtedly it would increase the demand for people to in the adjacent central neighbourhoods, while decreasing urban sprawl. Do it.
    Go down a few dark alleys.

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    • #3
      R o s s d a l e. Please

      The N. Sask valley should be our starring attraction and we NEED things like this to draw more people down there.
      Last edited by brett-; 06-02-2012, 05:54 PM.
      edmonton - madrid - edmonton
      @BrettSMcKenna

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      • #4
        A Cactus Club at the Rossdale Plant along the river bank would be wicked!
        “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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        • #5
          I think it should only be permitted from ~95th to ~105th
          $2.00 $2.25 $2.50 $2.75 $2.85 $3.00 $3.20 $3.25

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
            A Cactus Club at the Rossdale Plant along the river bank would be wicked!
            oh man. just the thought makes me drool.
            edmonton - madrid - edmonton
            @BrettSMcKenna

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            • #7
              Why not. We seem ok with bridges, neighbourhoods, power plants, roadways, paths, golf courses... I think done right, people and nature can co-exist nicely in urban landscapes.

              Generally to maintain what we can of a pristine watercourse and embankment I'd develop back from the river and close to the bottom of the valley's banks when it comes to buildings and the associated roadways.

              However, I could see the odd building, like the one pictured above which incorporates open and/or enclosed viewing decks would be allowed to situate on the river banks.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by brett- View Post
                R o s s d a l e. Please

                The N. Sask valley should be our starring attraction and we NEED things like this to draw more people down there.
                Yep - I agree 100%.

                Even if you just add a few businesses from say 95th St to 110th St, there is still a majority of the River Valley that is left to nature.

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                • #9
                  yes, but...

                  I'm all for more smart development along the river valley but let's not just stick in another crap chain restaurant.

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                  • #10
                    ^sounds good. Let's make sure there is Transcend, Good Earth, or other chain down there either.

                    What has happened to free enterprise in this city, if people don't want chains don't shop there and they will disappear.

                    This would be good for the River Valley and for Edmonton, unfortunately it will take decades of study and consultation before we see anything. I hope I am proven wrong.

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                    • #11
                      Because it would be a stand alone operation, you would need quite a strong destination brand or namesake. I'd love to see one of those names there, but in all honesty, Cactus Club would have a far more likely chance at success there.


                      Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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                      • #12
                        The Victoria Golf Course Club House needs to be replaced. Here is an EXCELLENT oppertunity to do something in partnership with the city and revitalize an existing city asset and add development to the river valley with very little additional impact.
                        "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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                        • #13
                          Regardless of what brand or chain the restaurant is, there is a fairly real concern about parking/access to it if it goes somewhere between Groat and 105 Street. Yes there's already a couple fairly large lots there to serve the golf course, RGC, parks and other facilities but a decent sized restaurant would require parking for a significant number of vehicles. I'm not saying it's a reason not to go ahead with it, but it's something that would have to be considered.

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                          • #14
                            ^there is NO parking with the one for English bay....

                            Not that we can do that here quite yet, but there are many areas around rossdale to facilitate parking needs into a new development.

                            I like the VGCC idea, cannot believe how underutilized it is to be honest, but would prefer something on the river or overlooking the river.


                            Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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                            • #15
                              If this facility is physically accessible then it would be a great feature of the downtown. Even if I don't patronize the actual business (and I probably would) it would give me access to the river valley.

                              As to preserving the wilderness, looking at all the roads and other structures, I think that ship has left the dock as far as the downtown stretch of the valley.

                              So for me an enthusiastic "yes" as long as it is within the sorts of perimeters suggested (i.e., the stretch that is already built up).

                              Eve

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