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  • Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
    I don't really understand why anyone on the right is concerned. Don't they all live in bedroom suburb McMansion's or on The Family Farm™? No self-respecting conservative lives in socialist condominiums.
    They might own them though - and the senior vote is typically conservative, only the least intelligent don't grow out of socialism by about 30. But you are probably right in a way, this isn't enough of a vote winner to care.

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    • Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
      I don't really understand why anyone on the right is concerned. Don't they all live in bedroom suburb McMansion's or on The Family Farm™? No self-respecting conservative lives in socialist condominiums.
      Seriously? That's your contribution? LOL!
      Animals are my passion.

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      • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
        They might own them though - and the senior vote is typically conservative, only the least intelligent don't grow out of socialism by about 30.
        HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA HHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHA

        Oh, moahunter, my time on the forum would be so much more tiresome without your nonsense to laugh at. Thank you for you being you.
        Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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        • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
          Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
          I don't really understand why anyone on the right is concerned. Don't they all live in bedroom suburb McMansion's or on The Family Farm™? No self-respecting conservative lives in socialist condominiums.
          They might own them though - and the senior vote is typically conservative, only the least intelligent don't grow out of socialism by about 30. But you are probably right in a way, this isn't enough of a vote winner to care.
          Don't baffle them with facts Moa..
          Animals are my passion.

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          • Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
            Originally posted by H.L. View Post
            Originally posted by moahunter View Post
            Hopefully it gets repealed by the UPC, it makes no sense, if you want to rent a place in a multi-family building where there are no children, you should be allowed to do that.
            They should keep their damned noses out of it, typical NDP!!!
            It makes no sense, if you own a condo and want to have children in it, you should be allowed to do that. They should keep their damned noses out of it, typical meddling condo boards.
            Clearly you know nothing of condo boards or bylaws. The boards dont create the bylaws they enforce them. One buys into a condo knowing in advance what bylaws/rules everyone must follow.

            Condo owners give up their right to live however they wish when they buy into a condo. I may not be allowed pets or they may be restricted to size/weight. I may not be allowed to rent my condo short term. I won't be able to leave my garbage in the hallway or blast my music until 3 am as loud as i want. The bylaws are meant for the peace and enjoyment of everyone within the condo.

            This also includes adult only building designations which have nothing to do with condo boards.

            If you want to cherry pick one bylaw to ignore then every other owner will do the same. And then what's the point of a condo if everyones doing whatever they want whenever they want.

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            • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
              Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
              I don't really understand why anyone on the right is concerned. Don't they all live in bedroom suburb McMansion's or on The Family Farm™? No self-respecting conservative lives in socialist condominiums.
              They might own them though - and the senior vote is typically conservative, only the least intelligent don't grow out of socialism by about 30. But you are probably right in a way, this isn't enough of a vote winner to care.
              You're kidding right? I don't think I will take anything you say on politics seriously ever again.
              Last edited by Moodib; 03-11-2017, 11:27 AM.

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              • I'm guessing he's attempting to channel the spirit of the quote often attributed to Winston Churchill in error.

                https://katecarruthers.com/2005/02/a...-conservative/
                Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                • Realistically most families won't automatically be moving into adult buildings. And condos have a 15 year grace period so there's a huge transition period. Honestly longer than is necessary.

                  If noise is the only reason to restrict families, that's a bylaw issue. Not something that our human rights act needs an exemption for.
                  www.decl.org

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                  • I realize this is totally irrational of me but when I think of adults only buildings I imagine frat boys and girls gone wild. When I hear of seniors only buildings I think of (if I were religious) Gods waiting room. It even make me laugh that I think that way.
                    Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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                    • Originally posted by Gemini View Post
                      I realize this is totally irrational of me but when I think of adults only buildings I imagine frat boys and girls gone wild. When I hear of seniors only buildings I think of (if I were religious) Gods waiting room. It even make me laugh that I think that way.
                      Lived in one for 6 years and neither was true. In fact, the older owners were up long after frat types, when we had our Christmas parties!lol! No staying power
                      Animals are my passion.

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                      • Originally posted by GreenSPACE View Post
                        Realistically most families won't automatically be moving into adult buildings. And condos have a 15 year grace period so there's a huge transition period. Honestly longer than is necessary.

                        If noise is the only reason to restrict families, that's a bylaw issue. Not something that our human rights act needs an exemption for.
                        Not just noise.As people have said, 18 year olds make noise. Pressing every button in the elevator, or playing in the parkade when it was -20, not so much!!..
                        Animals are my passion.

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                        • Originally posted by GreenSPACE View Post
                          Realistically most families won't automatically be moving into adult buildings. And condos have a 15 year grace period so there's a huge transition period. Honestly longer than is necessary.

                          If noise is the only reason to restrict families, that's a bylaw issue. Not something that our human rights act needs an exemption for.
                          and that should be good enough reason to eliminate age restrictions for everyone. You cant allow 55+ buildings and deny an 18+ building.

                          I hope someone fights this idiotic law. We cant deny one age group based on discriminatory grounds while allowing the same discrimination to continue for others.

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                          • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                            Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
                            I don't really understand why anyone on the right is concerned. Don't they all live in bedroom suburb McMansion's or on The Family Farm™? No self-respecting conservative lives in socialist condominiums.
                            They might own them though - and the senior vote is typically conservative, only the least intelligent don't grow out of socialism by about 30. But you are probably right in a way, this isn't enough of a vote winner to care.
                            I must be extra dumb, I keep getting more socialist as I age. Maybe you're confusing intelligence with empathy: as I get older I become more aware of injustice and brutal inequality. You get more selfish and concerned about how to hoard wealth so you can be buried with it, if only so you feel like you're better than others.
                            "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

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                            • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                              Hopefully it gets repealed by the UPC, it makes no sense, if you want to rent a place in a multi-family building where there are no children, you should be allowed to do that.
                              Actually, you can still rent a place in a multi-family building where there are no children - that hasn't changed. You can rent in whatever building will take you. There are probably a lot of buildings that will continue to not have kids or many of them, due to the nature of the suites, location, etc.., if they really bother you so much.

                              The building just can't kick out someone who becomes pregnant or refuse to rent to someone with kids. Hopefully you do not have an allergy to children because it is possible you could encounter one somewhere.

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                              • 1. Age discrimination is now prohibited in the protected area of goods, services, accommodation or facilities (referred to as “services” below)
                                Exceptions that allow speci c types of age restrictions in the area of services
                                While age is now a protected ground under the area of services, there are three exceptions that allow speci c types of age restrictions to continue without violating the Act: bene ts for seniors and minors; seniors‐only housing; and existing age‐restricted condominiums, co‐operative housing units and mobile home sites.
                                Bene ts for seniors and minors
                                • Programs that provide bene ts to minors or seniors, such as discounted movie tickets and reduced bus fares, can continue.
                                • Seniors can be de ned by the service provider o ering the bene t as 55 years or any older age.
                                • Minors are considered to be under 18 years of age.
                                JANUARY 2018
                                NOTICE OF CHANGES TO
                                1 ALBERTA’S HUMAN RIGHTS LEGISLATION
                                Q5A-1712
                                Seniors‐only housing
                                • Seniors‐only housing will continue to be allowed so that older Albertans can choose to live together in a community of people at a similar life stage.
                                • e minimum age cut‐o for seniors‐only housing is 55 years of age. Communities can set age restrictions that are older than 55 as well.
                                • is applies to housing where all units are reserved for one or more people, at least one of whom is 55.
                                Existing age‐restricted condominiums, co‐operative housing units and mobile home sites
                                e Act protects members of the public against discrimination by condominium corporations, co‐operatives and mobile home landlords, which are included under the protected area of services.
                                • Existing age‐restricted condominiums, co‐operatives and mobile home sites will be allowed for a 15‐year transition period, which ends on December 31, 2032.
                                • Existing age‐restricted condominiums, co‐operatives and mobile home sites may change to seniors‐only housing during the transition period, even though there may still be residents who do not meet the new age restriction.
                                • e transition period applies to condominium units, co‐operative housing units and mobile home sites whether they are owner‐occupied or rented.
                                2. Age discrimination is now prohibited in the protected area of tenancy
                                Age restrictions will not be permitted in rental buildings after January 1, 2018, unless they meet the exception for seniors‐only housing, which is described above.

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