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  • McCauley revitalization needs to regain focus.

    After reading this article http://globalnews.ca/news/1567353/ap...e-in-mccauley/ I can't help but feel betrayed. On one hand, the city says that it wants to make downtown safer and more attractive for families and then on the other, it allows this.

    I have pasted the 10 guiding principles for the McCauley Revitalization Strategy. The most interesting points that relate to the body rub parlor are #5 and #10.
    1. Connect Chinatown and Little Italy with downtown and surrounding areas
    2. Strengthen cultural character in Chinatown and Little Italy
    3. Develop strong East-West pedestrian connections between Chinatown and Little Italy
    4. Attract market housing
    5. Encourage major anchors to promote the area as a destination choice for citizens as well as tourists
    6. Create an interconnected network of walkable open spaces, streets and community gardens
    7. Program Year-round community events
    8. Recognize 96 Street (Church Street) as a major heritage destination
    9. Promote sustainability and high quality public realm
    10. Reinforce the fine-grain
    Luck is the collision that occurs when preparation and opportunity run into each other.

  • #2
    ^ Personal Service Shops (which include body rub centres) are an allowed use in the area - if there was no legal reason not to approve it, the city might not have had much choice. The decision is being appealed, and the appeal board is in a much better position to deny the development.

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    • #3
      Another resident pointing out sub par police services for McCauley! I watch every day police drive by everyday, let me clarify every single day! People with open alcohol,lounging on city boulevards, on the curb, on private property( which they are not welcome or invited on) and this leads to disorder,public urination/defecation ,an eyesore on Edmonton, and people passed out in public

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Swillv8 View Post
        I watch every day police drive by everyday, let me clarify every single day!
        It is maddening, isn't it? A police cruiser driving by every half hour or so does nothing.

        How can we convince the city and EPS that a few beat cops walking the streets and alleys would do wonders for this area? And it wouldn't just be helpful for the people who live in this neighborhood, but also for people walking and busing though it on their way to work or school.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
          [How can we convince the city and EPS that a few beat cops walking the streets and alleys would do wonders for this area?
          Would it? What makes you think all the homeless/drunks/crack addicts are going to disapear if a few police are walking around? At most you will move them to other parts of the city, but likely not even that. The only way to move them, is to move what is attracting them, the shelters and similar. The cities policies though have been the reverse of that, build more, attract more.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by moahunter View Post
            Would it? What makes you think all the homeless/drunks/crack addicts are going to disapear if a few police are walking around?
            Who said I want them to disappear?

            i walk through this area every other day, and my biggest problem is that there is no enforcement of any bylaws, so it is a complete free-for-all. People drinking out on the sidewalk, jaywalk aimlessly into traffic, urinating out in the open, fighting with each other, and shamelessly harassing people trying to walk from one end of a block to the other.

            Just because they are homeless or have mental health problems doesn't mean that they can't have some incentive to behave a bit better. And I think some police presence on the street will encourage that.

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            • #7
              How to change any behaviour that is frowned upon / hence laws were created? ENFORCE THEM! We as a society have moved away from this chaotic mindset of turning a blind eye or it cannot be enforced when it comes to drinking and driving!

              And if anyone really thinks these are totally different levels of risk come walk my block every night of the week 3am and let me know how many dangerous close calls one will encounter

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              • #8
                Originally posted by Swillv8 View Post
                How to change any behaviour that is frowned upon / hence laws were created? ENFORCE THEM!
                Yeah, but when EPS picked up some drunks once off whyte avenue and moved them, all they got was a ton of grief about the humanity of it. There's no incentive for them to make that mistake again.

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                • #9
                  The eps are are lacking credibility in some areas of Edmonton for sure.

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                  • #10
                    But why is it I can find open alcohol in less the 2 minutes if I looked?

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                      when EPS picked up some drunks once off whyte avenue and moved them, all they got was a ton of grief about the humanity of it.
                      The people who live in the Whyte Ave area are probably a little more charitable and sympathetic to homeless than the people who live in McCaulay.

                      I don't even live in McCaulay, and I am at my wits end. I have to resort to rolling down my window and yelling at bums for jaywalking straight into traffic when I am driving through, and I often have to tell someone to leave me alone when they follow me and shouting me down for money while I walk down 95 or 97 Street. Not to mention the open liquor or public urination all over the place.

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                      • #12
                        Right in the eps backyard let's not forget

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                          ... What makes you think all the homeless/drunks/crack addicts are going to disapear if a few police are walking around?
                          Won't make anyone disappear but, while your own cops in Calgary have discovered that foot patrols do make things better, our own Edmonton Police Force is more into armored cars and helicopters ...

                          http://www.newstalk770.com/2014/09/1...n-on-17th-ave/
                          ... gobsmacked

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                          • #14
                            The don't just walk around. They can dump out the alcoholic drinks of obviously intoxicated people. They can escort them off of private property when they clearly don't belong there. They can intervene in fights, de-escalate arguments and generally encourage better behaviour.

                            You can't do that from a moving car.

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                            • #15
                              Some really good points from Selhossa. Welcome to the forum

                              My own suggestions would be :
                              1. Build an LRT station in Little Italy
                              2. Get rid of the ugly (and useless) overpass across 97St
                              3. Get a mass market big business like Superstore or Wallymart to the Quarters (I know it's controversial- but nothing like a people magnet to revitalize an area). Once ppl lose their fears, they will be coming in for the scenery, little shops and art/architecture

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