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  • sadly not that location... its very gross. Not gross dirty but gross aesthetically.
    "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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    • Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
      I find that even though the mall feels more upscale since the reno (except for the Bay and Sears), a good majority of the people in it are decidedly not upscale: cowboys, trailer trash, gangsta types with tattoo-covered necks, obese couples talking really loud at each other, and a couple of near-homeless types trudging around with a suitcase and a garbage bag. The entire place felt like the collective IQ took a major downswing and I think it started affecting me. So I adjusted my monocle and darted out as quickly as possible!
      So... how does it compare to the population of the City Centre East food court?
      “Son, one day this will be an iconic structure shaping Edmonton’s skyline.”

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      • Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
        ...a good majority of the people in it are decidedly not upscale: cowboys, trailer trash, gangsta types with tattoo-covered necks, obese couples talking really loud at each other, and a couple of near-homeless types trudging around with a suitcase and a garbage bag.
        You are describing a mall sub culture that can exist pretty much in any city. Kingsway by virtue of its somewhat more central location and proximity to older neighborhoods has its own specific local fauna.

        But more revealing is that habitation of malls for recreational purposes for large portions of the local population is a characteristic of Edmonton that really only has Whyte Aveue as an outdoor boulevard promenade experience. A condition that hopefully will be alleviated soon.
        Did my dog just fall into a pothole???

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        • Originally posted by JamesL View Post
          Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
          I find that even though the mall feels more upscale since the reno (except for the Bay and Sears), a good majority of the people in it are decidedly not upscale: cowboys, trailer trash, gangsta types with tattoo-covered necks, obese couples talking really loud at each other, and a couple of near-homeless types trudging around with a suitcase and a garbage bag. The entire place felt like the collective IQ took a major downswing and I think it started affecting me. So I adjusted my monocle and darted out as quickly as possible!
          So... how does it compare to the population of the City Centre East food court?
          Sounds like the airport waiting areas.
          Gone............................and very quickly forgotten may I add.

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          • The new Target looks GREAT!
            "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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            • ^ It does brighten up that corner now, doesn't it?
              I think of art, at its most significant, as a Distant Early Warning system that can always be relied on to tell the old culture what is beginning to happen to it. —Marshall McLuhan

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              • I cant wait till its open!
                "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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                • Originally posted by norwoodguy View Post
                  Originally posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
                  ...a good majority of the people in it are decidedly not upscale: cowboys, trailer trash, gangsta types with tattoo-covered necks, obese couples talking really loud at each other, and a couple of near-homeless types trudging around with a suitcase and a garbage bag.
                  You are describing a mall sub culture that can exist pretty much in any city. Kingsway by virtue of its somewhat more central location and proximity to older neighborhoods has its own specific local fauna.

                  But more revealing is that habitation of malls for recreational purposes for large portions of the local population is a characteristic of Edmonton that really only has Whyte Aveue as an outdoor boulevard promenade experience. A condition that hopefully will be alleviated soon.
                  I dunno. I think you could probably open up a dozen Whyte Avenues all over Edmonton, without putting much of a dent in the indoor-mall subculture.

                  Confession: I am an unabashed, middle-aged mall rat. And there is something appealing about being inside an indoor-mall that you don't get walking down the streets of a market-district. I can't quite put my finger on what it is, but it's something I definitely sense. A cozier feeling, maybe?

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                  • ^ Malls make my soul cry.. and I was raised on "mall" culture.
                    "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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                    • Originally posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
                      ^ Malls make my soul cry.. and I was raised on "mall" culture.
                      To each their own. The only mall that really grinds me down is WEM, which seems to infect me with some sort of "sick building syndrome" whenever I go there. I always emerge feeling like I've just eaten really bad buffet food or something.

                      And, like your mall-culture upbringing, I was pretty much immersed in Old Strathcona cafe/bar culture for about fifteen years, and by the end of that had really grown to dislike it. It's the one part of Edmonton that I'm most anxious to avoid when I visit.

                      (And no, Triple 5 legal team, I am not actually suggesting that there is sickness in the air or wnywhere else at WEM.)

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                      • ^ I just like unique and independent... malls by nature are cookie cutter... same stores, same eats, same marketing, same same same...

                        its fine it's just nor me and that's why my soul cries.
                        "Do you give people who already use transit a better service, or do you build it where they don't use it in the hopes they might start to use it?" Nenshi

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                        • Would love to see what becomes of the Target space. That gut and rebuild was all for naught for them.
                          “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                          • Perhaps it gives Macy's, Nordstrom's or Neiman Marcus a new shell to put in a store.

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                            • Originally posted by sundance View Post
                              Perhaps it gives Macy's, Nordstrom's or Neiman Marcus a new shell to put in a store.
                              Nordstrom's would be most likely since they are opening stores in Canada.
                              Macy's has no plans to open up across the border.
                              Dunno know about Neiman, I'm guessing no.
                              Walmart is a likely candidate.
                              “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                              • Wal is my bet given the proximity to their enemy Loblaws.


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