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  • ...and make the perceived 'back' of MacEwan another front.


    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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    • The re-do and bike lanes can't do much but apparently McEwan's new campus plan has some significant changes to the drop-off loops at 106, 107, 108sts on both the north and south sides, turning them into less vehicle-dominated spaces. Should be soon, if you believe the plan. It's supposed to be a "quick win"
      There can only be one.

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      • It's a pretty good design. 105 Ave. is not a major through route for automobile traffic so I support the plaza. Part of the proposed bike lane is in the door zone of parked cars which is certainly not best practice but the rest of the bike lane is pretty good. One way bike lanes on each side of the street are much safer than bi-directional on street bike lanes. I hope this is funded. It will be a big boost for the area.

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        • Originally posted by IanO View Post
          ...and make the perceived 'back' of MacEwan another front.
          ... sort of .... maybe

          Doubt there'll be a clock tower or street (avenue) front entrances. Those will still be side entrances.

          And don't you even think about impacting the Alberta Arts Foundation warehouse!
          ... gobsmacked

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          • The section where they have parking/loading on the curb side of the bike lane is a horrible compromise.

            I'm not convinced that the single-direction lanes are actually safer - at least I feel safer at intersections when I'm facing traffic like how you're supposed to walk on a road without sidewalks. That way I can see if someone's going to turn across me an take evasive action.

            There's also the issue with ice. With the snow and slush from the car lanes getting piled up against the barrier it spreads fresh ice with every day it thaws and re-freezes. Single direction lanes will be just as bad but without the extra width to avoid the bad icy spots. If the city were considering putting the drainage between the car and bike lanes but with the steeper camber of the curb-side combined with the ice and narrow width... I suspect that I'll be riding with cars more often in the winter if it goes ahead as planned.
            There can only be one.

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            • Originally posted by McBoo View Post
              Originally posted by IanO View Post
              ...and make the perceived 'back' of MacEwan another front.
              ... sort of .... maybe

              Doubt there'll be a clock tower or street (avenue) front entrances. Those will still be side entrances.

              And don't you even think about impacting the Alberta Arts Foundation warehouse!
              The 107st entrance is supposed to move closer to the street. Maybe enough that it's effectively a street-front entrance.

              We'll see.
              There can only be one.

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              • Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
                The section where they have parking/loading on the curb side of the bike lane is a horrible compromise.

                I'm not convinced that the single-direction lanes are actually safer - at least I feel safer at intersections when I'm facing traffic like how you're supposed to walk on a road without sidewalks. That way I can see if someone's going to turn across me an take evasive action.

                There's also the issue with ice. With the snow and slush from the car lanes getting piled up against the barrier it spreads fresh ice with every day it thaws and re-freezes. Single direction lanes will be just as bad but without the extra width to avoid the bad icy spots. If the city were considering putting the drainage between the car and bike lanes but with the steeper camber of the curb-side combined with the ice and narrow width... I suspect that I'll be riding with cars more often in the winter if it goes ahead as planned.
                I agree with you about the compromise for parking/loading. However, single-direction bike lanes are substantially safer than bi-directional on-street lanes. The best bike cities in the world (Amsterdam, Copenhagen) stopped using them about 20 years ago because they weren't safe enough. Montreal is also moving away from them although it's tough to match up new single-direction lanes with older bi-directional lanes. The main safety issue for bi-directional lanes is at intersections where turning drivers turn across the lane because they are forced to check in two directions instead of just one direction. The only exception for bi-directional bike lanes should be for off-street lanes separated from auto traffic by a substantial buffer.

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                • Can anyone tell me if this project received funding in the new city budget?

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                  • I hope not - its in MacEwan University master plan - lets hope they have the $$ as I am sure City taxpayers don't want to see MacEwan planners picking taxpayers pockets.
                    Last edited by EdmTrekker; 10-01-2019, 09:05 AM.

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                    • I hope so and believe there is for west of 109st. East will wait another cycle.


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                      • Is 105 Avenue Edmonton's next 'cool' neighbourhood?
                        https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/is-105-a...hood-1.4686525

                        EDMONTON -- An Edmonton neighbourhood near MacEwan University is poised for a big makeover that one councillor says will bring some cool factor to the area.

                        105 Avenue—or Columbia Avenue—north of MacEwan is transforming from a light industrial area to one dotted with multi-level apartment buildings, cafes, restaurants and pedestrian-friendly thoroughfares, says Ward 6 Coun. Scott McKeen.

                        "You just sort of can see the right mix of things coming together to really support an interesting area up there," he said.

                        That's why the city is investing nearly $40 million to upgrade and build new infrastructure, including a pedestrian-only public plaza, along Columbia.

                        "It just goes to show how you can have these various areas of the city almost sort of quietly take off, and the infrastructure can be lagging behind," McKeen said."We've got it into the budget now to finish that stretch, I think up to 105th Street."

                        The transformation of the area has been incremental. In 2016, the city upgraded a small stretch of the road and installed bike lanes. More recently, a commissioned mural of graphic black and white lines popped up on the Dazzmo building on 111 Street. A slew of new businesses, like a unique food industry "incubator" called The Public, are set to open in the next year.

                        Entrepreneurs like Paul Kim, who opened a Bean Around the World location in the neighbourhood, decided to set up shop there. "I hope this area could be a, you know, trendy upcoming area for the younger generations," said Kim, adding that he pays cheaper rent than if he were to relocate to Whyte or Jasper avenues. Tara Winsor, who works at MacEwan, says she's already been seeing more young people from the university head north instead of south to hang out. "The neighbourhood is changing," she said. "I think that [the changes] make the area more useful to people who are here day-in, day-out."

                        While council has already approved the transformation plan, there are concerns that the $40-million vision for the neighbourhood could become a victim of the UCP government's budget cuts as the City of Edmonton re-prioritizes its projects.

                        "Sometimes these things that look like they're just sort of pet projects or nice-to-haves, well they're really kind of important in opening an area up to development," said McKeen.

                        Construction on 105 Avenue between 109 to 116 streets is expected to begin in 2020 as underground utilities are installed, while the streetscape will undergo work in 2021.
                        “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                        • Well let's hope they do get moving on this.
                          LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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