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    Pedways/Wayfinding going to Exectutive Committee today.

    http://www.edmonton.ca/city_governme...ee-agenda.aspx

    Pedway Committee –
    Annual Update

    Recommendation:
    That the March 21, 2012, Sustainable
    Development report 2012SHE006, be
    received for information.
    Report Summary
    This report provides an annual
    update concerning the activities of
    the Downtown Pedway Committee.
    Report
    On July 7, 2010, City Council approved
    the Capital City Downtown Plan, which
    contains policies pertaining to the
    maintenance and development of a
    downtown pedway system. The
    creation of the Pedway Committee helps
    to implement these policies.

    The Downtown Pedway Committee was
    established in September 2010. It’s
    mandate, in part, is to examine and
    address the challenges and
    opportunities related to the Downtown
    Pedway Network and report back to
    Executive Committee on an annual
    basis.

    The first meeting of the Pedway
    Committee was March 31, 2011.
    Committee membership consists of
    owners of property adjacent to the
    pedway network including
    representatives of the Administration as
    stated in the Committee’s approved
    terms of reference.

    The Committee has met six times in
    2011 and reviewed the challenges and
    opportunities related to the network.
    Two important Committee projects have
    been initiated. First, the Committee has
    taken measures to update the existing
    pedway maps located throughout the
    pedway system. It is expected that this
    work will be completed by the second
    quarter of 2012.

    Secondly, the Committee has initiated a
    database which includes all building
    names, contact information and pedway
    hours of operation for those properties
    adjacent to the system. This database
    will provide useful information for the
    maintenance of the system.

    The major focus of the Committee has
    been the creation of an integrated way-
    finding signage system for the pedway
    network. A way-finding system
    performs the essential function of
    directing, informing and supporting
    movements that allow public spaces and
    buildings to function. Such a system is
    key to ensuring that people can access
    and use pedways and the transit system
    efficiently, conveniently and safely. A
    comprehensive way-finding system
    involves not only clear directional
    signage to smooth pedestrian flows, but
    also includes open spaces beyond the
    pedway network which extend
    throughout the downtown, resulting in a
    more open, uncluttered environment. A
    comprehensive way-finding system also
    includes connecting street level activity
    with the existing multi-level pedway
    system.

    This is particularly important as
    downtown prepares for future pedway
    expansion to serve large transformative
    projects for which planning is currently
    underway. These include the arena and
    associated entertainment district, the
    new Royal Alberta Museum and the
    downtown LRT consisting of the north
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    NAIT line and the future at-grade
    downtown LRT line.

    The Pedway Committee’s focus on way-
    finding is complementary to other
    significant activities initiated in the
    downtown in 2011. Large commercial
    property owners have recently updated
    their internal way-finding systems
    including City Centre Mall and
    Commerce Place. Also, the Province of
    Alberta has conducted a significant way-
    finding signage study as part of the
    Legislative Precinct redevelopment
    which will be implemented through
    various phases of the project.

    The Pedway Committee feels the time is
    right to start planning for an integrated
    way finding signage system for the
    pedway and throughout the downtown.
    The downtown is well-positioned to take
    advantage of this initiative.
    Policy
    A key Capital City Downtown Plan
    objective is to lay the foundation for
    phased improvements to the pedestrian
    realm. These improvements are
    required to create an attractive
    environment necessary to support
    increased resident, worker and student
    populations. An integrated and efficient
    pedway network and associated way
    finding system will ensure pedways are
    well designed, safe, secure, attractive,
    comfortable, accessible and well-
    maintained. This is reflected in the
    Capital City Downtown Plan through
    Goal 4.3, Well Designed Downtown.
    Corporate Outcomes
    This report relates to the following goal
    of The Way Ahead, Edmonton’s
    Strategic Plan 2009-2018
    • Transforming Edmonton’s Urban
    Form


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  • #2
    Thanks, While the above ground pedways are fine as they are visible and busy. I find the only issues are the ones around the access points/corridors heading into Central, Bay and Corona Stations that need some ideas in getting some life down there.

    Yes it is a steady stream of commuters at peak times but other than that you could almost toss a bowling ball down some of those corridors and not hit a soul.

    The LRT has increased its ridership dramatically since the Southgate and Century Park stations opened up and will do so again once the Kingsway/NAIT Line gets running so the city needs to take advantage of creating some commercial life down there as Edmonton will continue to grow and the downtown LRT lines will get busier.

    Thanks again for the link!

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    • #3
      Help may be on way for Edmonton downtown pedway's wayfaring soles

      http://www.metronews.ca/edmonton/loc...ayfaring-soles


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      • #4
        New app could put Edmonton downtown on the map
        http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...592/story.html

        EDMONTON - Fed up with wandering a downtown pedway with no clue how to find the nearest bookstore? Can’t locate City Hall or the Shaw Conference Centre?

        Worry no longer. There will soon be an app for that.

        Downtown businesses say they need better signage and “wayfinding” for people heading into downtown, not just for tourists but also for residents coming in from the suburbs.

        A network of signs, new maps and web-based applications for mobile devices are part of a proposal going to city council’s executive committee this week to help make downtown more walkable and promote attractions in the city centre.

        West Edmonton Mall has already developed a mobile application to help shoppers navigate with their cellphones, and Calgary recently established a network of signs and kiosks to help pedestrians, said Jim Taylor of the Downtown Business Association.
        Seems Jim Taylor has finally checked his email. I sent the following (I remember elaborating on it further in the email, including an idea to have the app advertised right on the Walterdale entrance to downtown...which is a funny coincidence considering the above link shows a picture of the Walterdale Bridge.

        From May 16, 2011...

        Originally posted by Alex.L View Post
        SUGGESTION:

        South Edmonton Common has an app with store info, maps, etc. Why don't we have something similar for downtown? Throw advertisements up with a scanlife barcode and watch people actually find those neat little shops downtown whether they're in a mall, on the street, or something mobile like a hot dog vendor. Have stores advertise sales, promote events, etc right on the app. Let people find as much or as little information as they'd like, and let them do things at their own pace.

        Does Oil City have a celebrity guest bartender tonight? check the app. Is there a sidewalk sale at Wee Book Inn? Check the app! Is there a movie being shown on the square, or an impromptu car club meeting in the parking lot behind BP's tonight? Check the app.

        There is plenty happening in our downtown core. It's just a matter of getting the information literally into the right hands.

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        • #5
          ^actually... this way-finding/pedway group has been meeting for 2 years now and has put forth some great ideas to make navigating downtown much easier and consistent. I have had the pleasure of sitting on the steering committee and am looking forward to seeing the pilot project.


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          • #6
            A little concerned with the $2M price tag which includes the App. Is there a breakdown of what the costs would go toward?
            My antidepressent drug of choice is running. Cheaper with less side effects!

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            • #7
              Or how about just stepping outside and walk to the building your looking for that way.
              LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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              • #8
                New app could put Edmonton downtown on the map


                BY SHEILA PRATT, EDMONTON JOURNAL NOVEMBER 4, 2012

                Photograph by: Ryan Jackson , Edmonton Journal
                EDMONTON - Fed up with wandering a downtown pedway with no clue how to find the nearest bookstore? Can’t locate City Hall or the Shaw Conference Centre?

                Worry no longer. There will soon be an app for that.

                Downtown businesses say they need better signage and “wayfinding” for people heading into downtown, not just for tourists but also for residents coming in from the suburbs.

                A network of signs, new maps and web-based applications for mobile devices are part of a proposal going to city council’s executive committee this week to help make downtown more walkable and promote attractions in the city centre.

                http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...592/story.html


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                • #9









                  all from

                  http://sirepub.edmonton.ca/sirepub/c...2090310273.PDF


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                  • #10
                    They need to rename the system so it makes sense. If I'm on the second level it should be called +15's, ground level is obvious and underground through the tunnels call the Pedway. Keep it simple.

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                    • #11
                      Yeah. Hey maybe Calgary has some old +15 signs we can get at a discount too!

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                      • #12
                        Pedway is a 'pedestrian way'... with the signage showing if it is at, above or below grade.

                        See how the feet are at the top, that means above grade. If they are in the middle it is at grade and if they are in the bottom 1/3 of the image it is below. But I do suspect most do not know this.

                        (http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7200/6...8e394241_z.jpg)


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                        • #13
                          ^ I actually did know that, but I don't think many others do. I've never seen it published anywhere, even on the pedway maps.

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                          • #14
                            Don't call it +15. Just because some you think Calgary is the greatest city on the planet doesn't mean we have to copy everything they do.
                            “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                            • #15
                              And +15 is sort of a misnomer now anyways being metric it might be called a +5.

                              Google indoor maps will probably come out soon that would supercede any idea the city comes up with. You can upload floor plans to Google already;
                              http://support.google.com/gmm/bin/an...answer=1685827

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