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  • Edmonton ranks #1 in citizen survey

    Impressive.

    https://www.thestar.com/edmonton/201...on-survey.html


    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  • #2
    Crap polls: A great way to suppress inconvenient happenings such as actual competitive pursuit of the mayoral/council chair by credible candidates. Long live the boy king! (at least until there's a Liberal cabinet seat available, so, you know, not this go around).

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    • #3
      Surely you're not disputing the statistical significance of a self-selecting, compensated online survey?



      /s
      Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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      • #4
        The only thing impressive is how misguided is the attempt to quantify such surveys as representative or meaningful, which is either dumb, or intentionally misleading.

        To start with this is 1500 people polled ACROSS 6 city cites meaning that only 250 per city were polled. So that I wouldn't be using the same confidence interval pertaining to respective cities. The National number, fine, there is enough sample to posit that confidence interval. But not in the breakdown of individual Cities.

        Next, this is not randomly selected, this is LegerWeb preselected online sample being polled. So that results are not necessarily representative.


        But the responses to the survey are laughable.

        In the Star; "A majority of Edmontonians really like where they live — in fact, more than the citizens living in other major cities in Canada, according to a new study."

        I think we need to revisit what a fact is in this world. A poll is a representation, it isn't a factual representation of what citizens by and large think. But particularly due to what I cited above it is not established fact that Edmononians like where they live more than any other city. Its one diminutive poll finding.

        Iveson;

        "That’s a battle of Alberta I’m happy to win,” he said. “It has been a very challenging economic time in Calgary and that’s led to a lot of frustration. I wouldn’t comment on the politics of Calgary city hall. That’s not my place. I point to the very strong numbers in Edmonton as a result of really good work by this council.”

        "These results show we have built strong credibility. Being in public office is very demanding and there will always be people who aren’t happy. We should celebrate this clear and positive win as one that shows that our openness, transparency and engagement with our public is what sets us apart from the rest,"

        Really Don? This one poll establishes none of what you cite it does. Worse "as a result" even goes as far as to suggest the results are causally linked due to the work of "this council".
        Last edited by Replacement; 09-09-2019, 11:46 AM.
        "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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        • #5
          Great to see!

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          • #6
            Originally posted by ajs View Post
            Crap polls: A great way to suppress inconvenient happenings such as actual competitive pursuit of the mayoral/council chair by credible candidates. Long live the boy king! (at least until there's a Liberal cabinet seat available, so, you know, not this go around).
            Did you say crap poles when Calgary was voted Canada’s most livable city or is this comment just related to this one?

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            • #7
              Sorry Doug, but chants of GO OILERS concern me less than those of FOUR MORE YEARS.

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              • #8
                I wonder what Edmontonians thought of their city prior 6 years ago compared to now. I am almost a 100% sure the opinions were less favourable.
                Edmonton first, everything else second.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by ThomasH View Post
                  I wonder what Edmontonians thought of their city prior 6 years ago compared to now. I am almost a 100% sure the opinions were less favourable.
                  Very likely given the divisive issues that were on the plate. Change can be difficult to navigate, it takes a lot of political fortitude to lead in such times especially when you are advocating for it.
                  Did my dog just fall into a pothole???

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                  • #10
                    Yes, we are witnessing the fruits of Mandel's leadership and the forward thinking city council of that time.
                    Edmonton first, everything else second.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by ThomasH View Post
                      Yes, we are witnessing the fruits of Mandel's leadership and the forward thinking city council of that time.
                      ahh yes, that forward thinking brought us:

                      1) NAIT LRT - which looking back, clearly wasn't shovel ready, and should've been pushed back into the oven till they had a real plan
                      2) SLRT with all the lights and issues at university and 51 avenue crossings
                      3) LRT changed to a development tool (and failing at that) instead of a quick reliable transportation option.
                      4) MWLRT pushed through the most expensive corridor possible
                      5) WLRT route choose as the weakest possible route, ignoring the possibility of connecting our major nodes, in favour of possible redevelopment options along SPR?? HA
                      6) The arena and its suspect financial arrangements, and stalling of downtown developments while all the players waited around for 10 years to see if it would happen or not
                      7) 250 Million dollar interchange at 23rd avenue, possible the most expensive interchange ever in Edmonton.... and its still horrible.


                      About the only thing good Mandel did in terms of forward thinking was closing YXD.
                      A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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                      • #12
                        We can sometimes look back on retired politicians with a sense of nostalgia or even kindness, thinking they were stewards of some kind of golden era, but Mandel's legacy, I think, has only weakened with time.
                        “Son, one day this will be an iconic structure shaping Edmonton’s skyline.”

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                        • #13
                          It's a lot harder to look back with rose coloured glasses when the information age provides us all with a level of documentation, recollection & recall previous generations did not have.
                          Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                          • #14
                            The Entertainment District that lessened entertainment options for the city. Another legacy.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SP59 View Post
                              The Entertainment District that lessened entertainment options for the city. Another legacy.
                              Just as footnote to this comment there was one event at Rogers Place in the month of August. One.

                              The place has been dead much of the summer, just like last summer, but worse with no Hlinka cup.

                              Why did we build all this entertainment district?
                              "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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