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  • #16
    So a meeting to end all meetings and now ¿actionable items and commitments? ? Does that go beyond the ask for sidewalk and alley repairs?

    Is it just me or is this quite the about-face here? Why has it taken so long to start to listen? This situation has been festering for a long while, it seems like any negative feedback gets dismissed until now...why now?
    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by IanO View Post
      We had a wee meeting this morning as follow-up to last Friday's discussions at Executive Committee. 38 stakeholders including our MLA, Councillor's office, Mayor's office and the Chief of Police himself.

      ...more to come.

      https://twitter.com/DBAyeg/status/1150847896964587520
      @dbayeg


      A meeting !

      YAHOO !!

      38 stakeholders !

      This should yield results.


      Last edited by Top_Dawg; 15-07-2019, 05:26 PM.

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      • #18
        Actually.


        Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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        • #19
          Originally posted by Medwards View Post
          So a meeting to end all meetings and now ¿actionable items and commitments? ? Does that go beyond the ask for sidewalk and alley repairs?

          Is it just me or is this quite the about-face here? Why has it taken so long to start to listen? This situation has been festering for a long while, it seems like any negative feedback gets dismissed until now...why now?
          aren't you ever happy about something Medwards?

          for years you've been looking for something to be addressed and been unhappy that no-one was addressing it to your satisfaction and now that it's a front and centre issue you're still just as unhappy because it took so long for you to be listened to.
          "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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          • #20
            This afternoon I was walking east along 104ave at 104 Street. The traffic was stopped at the red light. Within that traffic was an EPS cruiser. A gentleman, obvious right out of it on whatever, started to jaywalk through the stopped traffic across 104ave, kinda bumped into the cruiser, and proceeded the make his way around the rear of the cruiser and continue crossing 104th. The police constables did nothing. That's a big problem right there. I remember when (now somewhat disgraced) NYC mayor Giuliani set his sights to clean up Manhattan and the word went out the no misdemeanor, no matter how small, was to be overlooked by cops on the beat. Oh wait, do we even have street cops anymore?
            Last edited by buildings; 15-07-2019, 06:21 PM.

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            • #21
              C2E = Complain 2 Everyone
              I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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              • #22
                Originally posted by Safir View Post
                Ken, this meeting was not with the federal government as far as I can tell. Furthermore, even if it was I'd lay the blame for the social disorder squarely on them: safe injection sites are their boondoggle.They are OK with putting their foot down on these, but not on asserting federal rights when it comes to energy corridors. AND I AM PAYING FOR IT.

                You know what: I'd be more than willing to pay to fly these wretches to Ottawa.
                Originally posted by kcantor View Post
                is one of those "actional items and commitments" a call for the legalization of all personal drug use and for the legalization of the sale or possession of all drugs for personal drug use?
                I think the message 'legalize all drugs' might have caught somebodies attention.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by kcantor View Post
                  Originally posted by Medwards View Post
                  So a meeting to end all meetings and now ¿actionable items and commitments? ? Does that go beyond the ask for sidewalk and alley repairs?

                  Is it just me or is this quite the about-face here? Why has it taken so long to start to listen? This situation has been festering for a long while, it seems like any negative feedback gets dismissed until now...why now?
                  aren't you ever happy about something Medwards?

                  for years you've been looking for something to be addressed and been unhappy that no-one was addressing it to your satisfaction and now that it's a front and centre issue you're still just as unhappy because it took so long for you to be listened to.
                  Do you think that perhaps, in that last sentence you answered your own question ?

                  I can tell you why I am unimpressed with the city and have lost all interest in working to make it better, preferring to focus my energy on other things, but I think you know my justification for that. Should I, for instance, be satisfied with the marginal, half-assed outcomes even though it continues to suck time and energy, and the city still refuses to meaningfully address many problems ?

                  The downtown “experience” has become increasingly unpleasant for the last while. I’m not going to offer up solutions because I don’t care and I’m not getting involved. But don’t shame those of us who’ve decided it’s not worth the effort because maybe some of us have just given too much already and the well is empty.
                  Over promise and under deliver. It’s the most Edmonton thing you can do.

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by buildings View Post
                    This afternoon I was walking east along 104ave at 104 Street. The traffic was stopped at the red light. Within that traffic was an EPS cruiser. A gentleman, obvious right out of it on whatever, started to jaywalk through the stopped traffic across 104ave, kinda bumped into the cruiser, and proceeded the make his way around the rear of the cruiser and continue crossing 104th. The police constables did nothing. That's a big problem right there. I remember when (now somewhat disgraced) NYC mayor Giuliani set his sights to clean up Manhattan and the word went out the no misdemeanor, no matter how small, was to be overlooked by cops on the beat. Oh wait, do we even have street cops anymore?
                    Wow the cops can’t catch a break in this city! The same day you’re complaining EPS did nothing to address a jaywalking offence, another citizen is complaining the police did too much, and were “harassing” a person committing a panhandling offence.

                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmon...-man-1.5211755

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                    • #25
                      Couldn’t we just load up all the rifraf into a transport trailer and drop them off in downtown Calgary. We could do it in the middle of the night when everyone is sleeping.😀 We could even be nice and use a bus.
                      Just enjoying another day in paradise.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by 240GLT View Post
                        Originally posted by kcantor View Post
                        Originally posted by Medwards View Post
                        So a meeting to end all meetings and now ¿actionable items and commitments? ? Does that go beyond the ask for sidewalk and alley repairs?

                        Is it just me or is this quite the about-face here? Why has it taken so long to start to listen? This situation has been festering for a long while, it seems like any negative feedback gets dismissed until now...why now?
                        aren't you ever happy about something Medwards?

                        for years you've been looking for something to be addressed and been unhappy that no-one was addressing it to your satisfaction and now that it's a front and centre issue you're still just as unhappy because it took so long for you to be listened to.
                        Do you think that perhaps, in that last sentence you answered your own question ?

                        I can tell you why I am unimpressed with the city and have lost all interest in working to make it better, preferring to focus my energy on other things, but I think you know my justification for that. Should I, for instance, be satisfied with the marginal, half-assed outcomes even though it continues to suck time and energy, and the city still refuses to meaningfully address many problems ?

                        The downtown “experience” has become increasingly unpleasant for the last while. I’m not going to offer up solutions because I don’t care and I’m not getting involved. But don’t shame those of us who’ve decided it’s not worth the effort because maybe some of us have just given too much already and the well is empty.
                        your point is taken - i understand your frustration and reasons for focussing on other things. but that doesn't seem to be Medwards' focus. Medwards' focus seems to be just complaining - and not constructively and too often personally - which i don't undersrand.
                        "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by 240GLT View Post
                          The downtown “experience” has become increasingly unpleasant for the last while. I’m not going to offer up solutions because I don’t care and I’m not getting involved. But don’t shame those of us who’ve decided it’s not worth the effort because maybe some of us have just given too much already and the well is empty.
                          Amen.

                          The sooner my department gets transferred out of the DT core to some place more convenient with a shorter commute the better.
                          Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                          • #28
                            Went for a walk around DT SAT. morning with the ol' lady and we almost got shiv'd by a 1st Nations cracked out POS - behind the EDM Motors site where we parked.....scared her a little. But all I was thinking was either: drop this POS and get shiv'd in the guts and leave her a widow. OR, drop this POS and "accidental kill him whilst doing so and go to jail. Did neither, just barely it to our car by seconds before he threw himself onto our windshield...not joking.

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                            • #29
                              Did you call EPS non-emerg or 211?


                              Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by maclac View Post
                                Went for a walk around DT SAT. morning with the ol' lady and we almost got shiv'd by a 1st Nations cracked out POS - behind the EDM Motors site where we parked.....scared her a little. But all I was thinking was either: drop this POS and get shiv'd in the guts and leave her a widow. OR, drop this POS and "accidental kill him whilst doing so and go to jail. Did neither, just barely it to our car by seconds before he threw himself onto our windshield...not joking.
                                It's very sad to see how far my neighbourhood has backslid for safety (both perceived & actual) since the massive cuts to the police presence in the area. Nobody should feel unsafe in Oliver a half block off of Jasper Ave on a Saturday morning.
                                Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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