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  • 9 reasons Canada's crime rate is falling
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manito...rate-1.3692193

    The “real” reason - or maybe “A” real reason. Interesting article though:

    The real reason crime is falling so fast
    How social media obsession, smartphone addiction, and even violent video games are, surprisingly, making us safer
    Jul 31, 2015 Zoe McKnight

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    And it’s not only crime; rising rates of technology use also correlate with a drop in other undesirable behaviours. Research has suggested that the same forces have helped to discourage young people from risky sex, drug use and aggression. The post-Millennial demographic known as Generation Z, defined loosely as those born after 1995, is known to be better-behaved than their older peers. As they enter their late teens, the most likely age of criminal inclination, Gen Z youths are smoking less, graduating more, having fewer pregnancies, and committing fewer robberies, car thefts and murders.

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    Not everyone is convinced that chronic use of technology is helping to bring down crime. The crime substitution theory put forth by Griffiths and Sutton, for one, has faced detractors. University of Toronto criminologist Anthony Doob considers such theories “a dime a dozen,” because there have been countless changes to society since 1991. Likewise, Simon Fraser University criminology professor Graham Farrell isn’t convinced. He’s a former graduate student of Pease’s in the U.K. and a childhood friend of Sutton’s. Farrell attributes most of the crime drop to an increase in security. Since “debut crimes” such as car thefts and shoplifting have become more difficult, young people may be less likely to start a criminal career in the first place, he says. “That might be the stepping stone to why some violent crimes have gone down,” Farrell says. He’s also skeptical that video games, social media and smartphones contributed to the crime drop, which began in 1991, before Google and texting and before Gen Z was even born. But while he’s quick to point out that correlation is not causation, he’s not totally against further investigation to finally prove or disprove the hypothesis. “Mike [Sutton]’s been talking about it for years,” Farrell says from Vancouver. “I say, ‘This is interesting. Where is the evidence?’ ”...



    http://www.macleans.ca/society/the-r...lling-so-fast/

    Is this a 'luxury prison'? - BBC News
    “Despite criticism that it's too luxurious, Norway has achieved one of the lowest reoffending rates in the world.”
    http://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-432...-luxury-prison


    60 Minutes Presents: Behind Bars - CBS News
    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minu...d-bars-prison/
    Last edited by KC; 05-03-2018, 08:57 AM.

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    • Coincidentally enough, this interview with Pinker by MacLean's was just published: http://www.macleans.ca/society/steve...rse-seriously/

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      • A few things that haven't been considered in the violent crime decrease are;

        1) Due to technology, identity theft, fraud, robbing someone blind can happen safely over the internet and doesn't require knocking somebody over the head to rob them. Some murders or manslaughters, or acts of aggression would be property theft related. Its far less required to touch the victim now. Just steal their mail. Things like that.

        2)Most murders/homicide attempts are domestic in nature. Acts of passion between partners. Less people getting married, or involved in serious relationships, and getting into that generally later than used to be the case. Could be there are less partner related acts of aggression per population because of less rates of people involved in serious relationships.

        3) A small amount of decrease in serious crime and aggression might be explained by simply incarcerating more people and keeping them locked up or under supervision for longer. Both sides of the border this appears to be occurring.

        4) Aging population. Simply more people aging and that demographically the younger cohorts, more represented in murder, are less a proportion of the overall population.

        5)Tech babysitting. Addiction to video, Netflix, computer games, online activity is simply resulting in an uber cocooning effect and essentially meaning that theres going to be less people out murdering if more people are staring at monitors all day. As articles mention this also having the side benefit of maybe decreasing other forms of chemical addiction, and the crimes and organized crime related to that. Unless Netflix goes mafia on us somehow we're probably all a bit safer than previous generations.

        Many more possible factors.
        Last edited by Replacement; 06-03-2018, 01:43 PM.
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        • 2) It seems to me that there are likely fewer murders and assaults between married or other looooong time partners than between serial monogamists or other non-marrieds.

          If you take the conditions of a failing relationship as ripe ground for violence then you'll probably get more fighting when relationships fail more often.
          There can only be one.

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          • http://www.statcan.gc.ca/pub/85-002-.../tbl08-eng.htm

            Homicides, by closest accused to victim relationship, Canada, 2015 and 2016
            Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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            • Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
              Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
              There's basically no reliable evidence that shows violence in video games (or movies/TV for that matter) is causally linked to violence in real life. Similarly, rock n'roll, jazz music and dancing didn't lead to the downfall of society.
              So what did lead to the downfall of society? Was it the processed foods or the vaccines?

              Socialists.

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              • Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
                Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
                Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
                There's basically no reliable evidence that shows violence in video games (or movies/TV for that matter) is causally linked to violence in real life. Similarly, rock n'roll, jazz music and dancing didn't lead to the downfall of society.
                So what did lead to the downfall of society? Was it the processed foods or the vaccines?

                Socialists.
                and capitalists.


                Sorry - what is it that broken? Society? If so, I didn’t get that memo.

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                • The culmination of all that i mentioned. There is no one factor. Look at the road rage since 'Grand Theft Auto' came out. I hypothesize that position just from personal observation over the years. It is to my understanding that the military is using video games as part of their training program for fighterjet pilots. I can't recall the artical i read long ago regarding this, so there has to be some relevance associated with video games.
                  " The strength of a man is in the stride he walks."

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                  • https://www.york.ac.uk/news-and-even...d-video-games/

                    In a series of experiments, with more than 3,000 participants, the team demonstrated that video game concepts do not ‘prime’ players to behave in certain ways and that increasing the realism of violent video games does not necessarily increase aggression in game players.
                    The dominant model of learning in games is built on the idea that exposing players to concepts, such as violence in a game, makes those concepts easier to use in ‘real life’. This is known as ‘priming’, and is thought to lead to changes in behaviour. Previous experiments on this effect, however, have so far provided mixed conclusions.
                    Full paper here: https://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...47563217305472
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                    • ^^Non intuitively video games as such, rather than foster violence have seemingly provided an outlet for cathartic violence to be harmlessly dissipated. Its a fascinating area of study and every premise exists.
                      But these thoughts have been occurring since parents were first concerned with depictions of shooting, murder, death on TV. Of course its never been possible to isolate such effects from changes in society, mores, etc.

                      The one thing I would be concerned about though is that the Video game first person shooter narrative provides potential ideas. Like fighter pilot games you mention it puts that person in the literal cockpit of mass killing.

                      To me anyway its hard not to imagine that the school shooters and mass shooters hadn't played a lot of those first person shoot him up games or that theres potentially some conditioning, some connection, some disinhibition. Its a chilling thought that in the self reports and annals indeed such games are often a fascination for these real life shooters.

                      Indeed it would be interesting if any movements, actions of the shooters resembled video game play in anyway. For instance stealth tactics, hiding behind walls, defense, choice of weapons etc. This should be closely studied for any such connections.

                      The biggest concern in any case I have with video game first person shooter genre is desensitisation. Its the acceptance of engaged vicarious violence. Its essentially violence porn, and like porn, has similar debilitating effects viewing the objects of that porn.

                      I don't know if such thing exists but would anybody not be concerned if there were video games like the Saw or Hostel movies or that depict gathering people in your garage so you can murder and dismember them?

                      Because those that defend GTA are essentially defending that level of visual and cognitive depravity. In a world that worships "Kill Bill".

                      Is it that much surprise that such a world is increasingly hostile, combative, dissociative, and narcissistic. maybe some of the nonstop violence we view does creep in.
                      Last edited by Replacement; 07-03-2018, 10:30 AM.
                      "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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                      • The problem with studies is that we have to dwell further than the article itself. Look at who is sponsoring those studies/research. If it was financed by video developers, one can suspect a biase report in favor of respective incumbents. If agression has not risen then explain the gun shootings in school; children carrying knives to protect themselves; or teen age kids buying guns. Why do school children in the US have to lobby the Whitehouse? Factor in the daily mundane stress everyone is going through nowadays, i would say aggression has risen 1000 folds since i was a teen in the 80s. The OJ Simpson era was when I notice a change in progression of aggression. Just my opinion.
                        Last edited by ctzn-Ed; 07-03-2018, 10:37 AM.
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                        • Just further but at this point its basically unquestioned that immersion in pornography alters peoples cognitions, perception, relationships, interactions, mood, neurochemicals, and even brain synapses. The brain even being hardwired differently through immersion with porn. Theres endless studies assessing changes through immersion in porn and verifying the impacts.

                          Why wouldn't there be similar connections and changes in response to violence porn immersion?
                          "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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                          • It's hilarious that some people are still blaming acts of real violence on the pretend violence shown in some video games.

                            What decade is this?

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                            • Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
                              It's hilarious that some people are still blaming acts of real violence on the pretend violence shown in some video games.

                              What decade is this?
                              Says the boards lifelong NRA and gun violence supporter.
                              "if god exists and he allowed that to happen, then its better that he doesn't exist"

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                              • No, I strongly oppose all forms of violence.

                                However, I am a huge supporter and advocate of FAKE violence (video games, movies, etc.)

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