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  • What Does 124st need to make it make it?

    Everytime i drive it or walk it i am amazed at the diversity in design, use, style, and condition of all things 124st.

    We have a great little area of retail 102ave south to jasper and pockets in other areas, but what does 124st need to make it a viable and attract more to it?

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    more of this i say:





    retail with 2-3 levels of condo/loft above...or work/live buildings.[/img]


    Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

  • #2
    How about start with bulldozing that house on the end and putting up a nice restaurant or cafe there...maybe similar to that design you posted earlier? That lot has so much potential...
    "Its not where you go, but how you get there"

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    • #3
      Lets start off by blocking the view with one of those nice walls that shaw got
      Then we can get Bill Comrie to add a few more of his cash canada stores
      We can turn those ugly old patio homes on the west side by the 105 ave intersection into some more chrome filing cabinet style townhouses that are right on the sidewalks.
      Still waiting for the Arlington site to be reborn .......

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      • #4
        Re: What Does 124st need to make it make it?

        Originally posted by IanO

        ...more of this i say:

        Absolutely...This is what Richard Assaly should have done further north. We need something like this ASAP in the former Rosie's Bar + Grill (i.e. 10315 - 124 STREET NW) which is now a parking lot...Imagine!
        In favour of Architecture that is of our time and place.

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        • #5
          Re: What Does 124st need to make it make it?

          Originally posted by IanO
          Everytime i drive it or walk it i am amazed at the diversity in design, use, style, and condition of all things 124st.
          I'll say it again: 124th (and High Street, by extension) are ridiculously diverse areas where any architectural style will work. So there's no reason that the recent develpments need to try to "fit in." I would love to see something like this there.

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          • #6
            if i had money to spend right now, i would buy everything i could on 124st from 111ave south.


            Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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            • #7
              my idea...and what 124st needs all along it to create some critical mass of retail bays and clients:

              -3/4 storey
              -main floor retail (in this case 2 small ones of around 800sqft and 1200sqft)
              -distinct residential entrance
              -balconies over looking the street
              -U/G parking
              -6-10 units of condos or apartments
              -strata titles



              Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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              • #8
                I don't know about what's needed from an architectural point, but what 124 St needs:

                More coffee shops in the areas of 107 Ave and 104 Ave, may it be Starbucks or Second Cup.
                More cool restaurants and bistros.
                More trendy and unique shops.
                More theatres like The Roxy.
                A wine bar or two wouldn't hurt.
                Shut down the payday loan joints.
                What's really needed are more people adding life to the strip, day and night, so places will stay open after 6 PM.
                What can really help to attract people is a festival that will do for 124 St what the Fringe did for Old Strathcona.
                “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                • #9
                  for those who know "commercial drive" in van...that is what i see 124st from 102ave north becoming...

                  mixture of new and old, brand name and mom/pop, wealthy/poor, cool/hip.


                  Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

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                  • #10
                    One other thing that 124th needs is to be better integrated into High Street and the retail that's on Jasper from 120-124th.

                    Having 124th and High Street as two separate shopping districts makes no sense when they're right next to each other.

                    And the retail on Jasper from 120-124th has some of the highest visibility in the city, and it's also a natural extension of 124th because of the Gallery Walk.

                    The whole area needs to be rolled into one larger branding strategy - "124th", "High Street", "West Oliver", "East Glenora", whatever.

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                    • #11
                      IanO, it is full of buildings from one end to the other already...I think the only way to do this would be to actually go, building by building, up one side of the street and down the other and figure out which ones aren't working on a case-by-case basis.

                      It strikes me that you are headed to the garden centre to buy a whole bunch of new plants, but what 124 needs most of all is careful and selective pruning if the good things there already are to grow.

                      To be honest, I think we really need to stay away from commercial-drive-ifying things here. Edmonton does not need one more bit of immitation-somewhere-else. I will cite once again Bourbon Street at West Edmonton Mismarketed; no one in their right mind would schedule their precious vacation time to spend their wealth on New-Orleans-In-The-Mall. It just isn't done, when the real thing is also only a plane ride away.
                      City Centre Airport is to the sky as False Creek is to the ocean.

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                      • #12
                        Re: What Does 124st need to make it make it?

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                        more of this i say:





                        retail with 2-3 levels of condo/loft above...or work/live buildings.
                        ...am I the only one that finds this a cold box? Would it kill some people to think outside a rectangle with a drive in window and a row of tv's?
                        My hope is that you can finally get rid of the anger in your heart, and fill it with peace, compassion, understanding, and a desire to uplift rather than suppress.

                        After all, we are all together on this home, this pale blue dot, the "only home we've ever known.”

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                        • #13
                          -Floor 1: Cafe + lobby
                          -Floor 2: office space for me and ian's development/architecture firm
                          -Floor 3-4: 6 condos







                          "By its nature, the metropolis provides what otherwise could be given only by traveling; namely, the strange." --J.J.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by lux
                            To be honest, I think we really need to stay away from commercial-drive-ifying things here. Edmonton does not need one more bit of immitation-somewhere-else. I will cite once again Bourbon Street at West Edmonton Mismarketed; no one in their right mind would schedule their precious vacation time to spend their wealth on New-Orleans-In-The-Mall. It just isn't done, when the real thing is also only a plane ride away.
                            Personally I'd rather see 124 St evolve into a Whyte Ave without the bar-brawling frat boys.
                            “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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                            • #15
                              whyteknight:
                              I'd love that. Or maybe push the residential up one more floor and put in some nice second floor glassed offices for consultants or professionals.

                              edit: Hey, what's going on here?

                              Originally posted by IanO
                              if i had money to spend right now, i would buy everything i could on 124st from 111ave south.
                              I'd be watching for anything a few blocks up or down 107th Ave as well.


                              Sonic Death Monkey:

                              How's this look for starters:

                              http://www.nextfest.ca/

                              I think I agree with everything else you said. Who could we tap to build the second theatre though? A BRZ project? A MacEwan off-campus community outreach (to coincide with the reconstruction of their dance program? ) Daryl Katz?
                              Let's make Edmonton better.

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