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  • KC
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    Doorbell camera firm Ring working with more than 400 police forces

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...es/2140022001/

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  • McBoo
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    Problem with cameras is the bad guys wear hoodies - no way to identify.

    More cops needed - or at least more cops who actually care - too many don't, but can't be fired.

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  • KC
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    Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Because the cop may go where the camera can't see and it also gives a different view of any interactions?
    The cameras are live? (Viewed by dispatch?)

    Interesting bit about the blinking light.

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  • kkozoriz
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    Because the cop may go where the camera can't see and it also gives a different view of any interactions?

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  • KC
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    San Diego broadly deploys cameras and sensors on LED street light poles (MAGAZINE) | LEDs Magazine
    Feb 20, 2019


    “The cameras in the San Diego nodes, however, greatly complicate the commissioning process, perhaps for reasons that aren’t initially obvious. Caldwell explained that the installation must acknowledge the concept of curtilage — a concept traced to old English common law. The cameras cannot capture any data/activity associated with private property. The cameras are used to capture activity on the public right of way including sidewalks and streets but not in private buildings or even in a privately-owned parking lot.”

    ...

    “The crew installing each camera must determine the precise longitude and latitude for the point on a surface from which the camera would capture each pixel of data. The so-called geocoding is used to essentially block pixels that would be associated with private property from being recorded.”


    https://www.ledsmagazine.com/leds-ss...poles-magazine
    If the cop’s there, why the body camera? .
    (In reference to the earlier posts in this thread.)

    All front-line Calgary police officers now wearing body cameras - Calgary | Globalnews.ca

    https://globalnews.ca/news/5766999/c...ras-permanent/
    Last edited by KC; 18-08-2019, 06:05 AM.

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  • KC
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    Note the fact that the camera was on a house and looks like it was monitoring someone’s trailer:

    Video shows beating, kidnapping of Trevor Lomond; killers plead ... - Calgary Sun
    calgarysun.com › local-news › tr...
    22 hours ago · Video shows beating, kidnapping of Trevor Lomond; killers plead guilty to manslaughter.


    Brutal kidnapping that led to Calgary man’s death detailed | Calgary Sun

    http://calgarysun.com/news/local-new...ary-kidnapping





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  • KC
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    Last night, the protesters were apparently carrying cameras and smartphones recording everything. The value of digitizing these events is becoming very obvious.



    Curfew imposed in Charlotte as Keith Scott's family view footage of killing


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    Details of what happened to Carr have been muddled, with conflicting explanations from city officials. At first Putney said the man had died Wednesday night, and then that announcement was reversed, and then remade on Thursday.

    The city also said the man, whose name had not been released, was injured during a “civilian on civilian” shooting. But that explanation seemed increasingly tenuous by Thursday afternoon.

    “There was no fight,” said Eddie Thomas, an attorney and Charlotte public defender. He was at the intersection in question to observe interactions between police and the public, he said. “There was no issue between protesters. It just didn’t happen.”

    Thomas’s account agrees with what other witnesses claimed to see. “I saw the police shoot that man almost point blank with my own eyes,” Jimmy James Tyson wrote on Facebook afterward. “Police shot him close range in the side of the head with a rubber bullet

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...age-of-killing

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  • KC
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    Shows the potential value of unmonitored recordings...

    http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35991375

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  • KC
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    Another interesting scenario - recorded on a camera...

    Accusing the wrong guy maybe...


    'I brushed past her ... then was charged with sex attack' - BBC News

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-35531436?SThisFB

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  • Marcel Petrin
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    That video looks like something out of Supertroopers or Reno 911.

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  • KC
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    Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
    Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
    No crazy liberal agenda.
    No agenda needed. There are enough unorganized cop-haters out there to blame officers for all of society's ills.
    Interesting... The may be no place for irrational love or hate relationships. Cameras upon cameras might show its best to adopt a position of neutrality.


    Video of Santa Ana Police Pot-Shop Raid Shows Officers Eating ‘Edibles,’ Attorney Says
    POSTED 3:45 PM, JUNE 11, 2015, BY CHRISTINA PASCUCCI, MELISSA PAMER, KIRK HAWKINS AND ERIC SPILLMAN

    "Video of the raid was taken by the regular surveillance cameras the shop had in place, as well as a hidden one set up in anticipation of a police visit."

    "The footage shows at least eight officers busting into the dispensary, guns drawn, shouting “everybody on the ground” to customers and workers."

    " “I was about to kick her in her f—ing nub,” a female officer later says of a customer with an amputated leg in a wheelchair."

    "The officers proceed to remove surveillance cameras mounted on the ceiling, the video shows."


    http://ktla.com/2015/06/11/video-of-...attorney-says/
    Last edited by KC; 13-06-2015, 06:35 AM.

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  • MrOilers
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    Originally posted by Chmilz View Post
    No crazy liberal agenda.
    No agenda needed. There are enough unorganized cop-haters out there to blame officers for all of society's ills.

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  • Chmilz
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    Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
    It's not hyperbole. Every time a suspect is shot, hordes of bleeding hearts cry out, "Why didn't the officer just shoot him in the legs?" "Why didn't he use his taser instead?" "Why didn't he just hold him at gunpoint?".

    Yet when an officer merely pulls his weapon on a suspect to maintain a bit of order (like that nonsense in Dallas suburb where the video clearly shows the youths trying to surround and hit the officer, some of them even reaching behind their backs and pretending to pull out weapons, and when the officer only takes his pistol out and aims it at one person, the complainers do the exact same thing - "Why did he have to point his gun?")

    I have no idea why anyone would want to become a police officer, with the nonsense they have to put up with coming from all sides.
    By "hordes of bleeding hearts" I think you mean a couple challenged folks with access to the internet. In most of those cases it's not even liberals, it's acquaintances of the accused/perp/victim. The vast majority understand that force can be necessary and applaud it's use (shooting this week right here in Edmonton, for example). The vast majority also want cameras on cops to make sure that when they do abuse their power, they're held accountable.

    Pretty simple really. No crazy liberal agenda.

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  • Marcel Petrin
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    Originally posted by KC View Post
    "Clearly in the wrong" maybe, but 'actually' wrong requires a full sense and knowledge of the situation and what led up to it. These are humans that are involved and so emotions and all kinds of other mind and mental issues can be involved.
    Let's go with "actually", since the officer himself has apologized and resigned. The police chief was quick to also call his actions "indefensible": http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/v...ol-party-video

    http://news.yahoo.com/mckinney-polic...190534788.html

    Sounds like he'd had a pretty awful shift prior to arriving at that scene. No one's saying that the job is easy. But his actions could well have resulted in someone getting killed. As the police chief says, there were 12 officers present, and only 1 was out of control.

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  • KC
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    Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Definitely hyperbolic, and you're certainly confusing what's going on in the US with what's going on in Canada. I can recall no significant protests or controversies in recent memory about police shootings in Edmonton or Western Canada, as they've generally been justified. What's going on in the US is absolutely ridiculous, however. That Dallas police officer was clearly in the wrong in how he handled that situation. There were numerous other officers present, and none of them were waving their pistols around like Dirty Harry. In some ways I do sympathize with police in the US, as there is a ridiculous number of guns in circulation there compared to here. But some of the stories coming out of the US over the past while are beyond belief: http://www.desmoinesregister.com/sto...Key=&autologin

    Shoot first, ask questions later.
    "Clearly in the wrong" maybe, but 'actually' wrong requires a full sense and knowledge of the situation and what led up to it. These are humans that are involved and so emotions and all kinds of other mind and mental issues can be involved.

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