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  • #31
    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...dmontonjournal

    The park makeover also includes a more modest plan, somewhere in the $8-million range, to refurbish the beautiful Queen Elizabeth II Planetarium. The circular glass and fieldstone building, with its futuristic gold anodized aluminum frames and flying saucer dome, opened in 1959. It’s on the city’s A-list of historic resources, but it’s been mothballed for years. The proposal would be to restore the building, remove its asbestos insulation and make it wheelchair accessible, so that community groups could make proper use of it.
    “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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    • #32
      I like community use to allow amenities and a 'magnetic point' for the park. Washrooms, kitchen, seating, rentable, fully accessible. Could easily be useful.
      Live and love... your neighbourhood.

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      • #33
        Here's nighttime views then and now.








        Also more discussion and fairly recent photos here:


        Post #317 shows a nice aerial shot of the park layout. It's a fair distance in to this building.

        Junk or Jewel?
        http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum...?t=6482&page=4


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        Last edited by KC; 21-05-2014, 05:58 AM.

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        • #34
          How about we get one of these:



          And use the space as intended?

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          • #35
            As some of you will recall, when the Edmonton Space Sciences Centre opened in 1984, the centrepiece was the very first Zeiss GP85 Cosmorama (at the time, the most advanced star projector in the world) under the 23-metre dome of the Margaret Zeidler Star Theatre. In addition to "Sophie", the planetarium had about 300 conventional projectors (slide and film) and a Laser Fantasy laser projector.

            In 2008, the Zeidler Theatre was renovated. Sophie was showing her age, and so she and all her analog friends were removed and replaced by digital full-dome projectors. This upgrade greatly enhanced the versatility of the space, but when it comes to the original purpose of the facility—simulating the night sky—even the most advanced digital system can never match the visual sharpness and contrast of an optical star projector.


            I took the liberty of contacting Seiler Instruments, the North American dealer for Zeiss planetariums, and got a quote for the Skymaster ZKP 4, which is the model pictured in my previous post. Including installation and training, the basic projector is about US$739,000, with various optional modules available at additional charge.

            The ZKP 4 projector is designed for use in domes between 6m and 15m diameter (QEII is 7.9m), projecting approximately 7000 stars, plus the sun and moon, planets, galaxies, and nebulae. Its LED lamps provide pure white light without the yellowish tinge of previous generation carbon arc or halogen light sources.


            Because the Telus World of Science uses only fulldome projection, it seems unnecessary to me to be concerned about duplicating that capacity in the QEII. The target audience, then, would probably skew to either serious astronomy enthusiasts, people nostalgic for the traditional style of the presentations, and those interested in the historical aspect of the building. Besides hosting the obvious elementary school field trips and educational lectures, potential uses for the space are virtually endless. Intimate weddings under the "stars," swank cocktail evenings, astro-navigation training, the sky's the limit (pun intended).


            If anyone would like to see the actual quote, let me know and I'll PM it to you.

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            • #36
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              Might want to email [email protected] with the info, too.

              I'd rather have a resurgent planetarium then a giant litter box in Louise McKinney park; the projector is about the same price as the sand for that proposed project. You might even want to email Tencer and Grose over at Ched the suggestion as an alternate to the McKinney beach; the particularly don't like it
              Last edited by Ustauk; 25-06-2014, 07:25 AM.

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              • #37
                When I was last in the QEP there was a lot of work required to bring it back. It was a glorified storage room. The HVAC unit was replace but the old furnace system is still in place as well. The under-slab ducting had some water in it so expect mold and there is asbestos wrap.
                I want this building preserved and you suggestion to install a new projector is great. I like the idea of renting it out as well. When I was a kid sitting in there I thought the room was massive. when I went back in about 8 years ago I saw how small it was.

                I always remember sitting back and watching the transition from twilight to night time. the silhouette of the city skyline around the edges. and the cool feel of the room. I cannot remember how many school trips and cub scout trips we went on but I will always remember looking at the stars.

                I have not gone to the MZ theater more than once since it was open.

                Maybe its time we start a crowd fund to get this back into play.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by BalancedOP View Post
                  When I was last in the QEP there was a lot of work required to bring it back. It was a glorified storage room. The HVAC unit was replace but the old furnace system is still in place as well. The under-slab ducting had some water in it so expect mold and there is asbestos wrap.
                  I want this building preserved and you suggestion to install a new projector is great. I like the idea of renting it out as well. When I was a kid sitting in there I thought the room was massive. when I went back in about 8 years ago I saw how small it was.

                  I always remember sitting back and watching the transition from twilight to night time. the silhouette of the city skyline around the edges. and the cool feel of the room. I cannot remember how many school trips and cub scout trips we went on but I will always remember looking at the stars.

                  I have not gone to the MZ theater more than once since it was open.

                  Maybe its time we start a crowd fund to get this back into play.
                  I figure there should always be a place for small groups maybe of small stature. It was a good size in its day and we don't need to scale up everything just because our population has grown.

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                  • #39
                    Now, the monarchist in me says no, but the rest of me thinks that it should be renamed to something a little more concise. Perhaps the Edmonton Planetarium, or the Jubilee Planetarium. I think the Queen has enough buildings named after her that she won't miss one little one...

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                    • #40
                      How about a little museum of bad urban planning decisions?

                      Sure that won't fly with the fans (and I 3/4 heartedly appologise for the sarcasm) but I trust the point I'm genuine about will be taken as balance to the discussion.
                      Let's make Edmonton better.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by JayBee View Post
                        How about a little museum of bad urban planning decisions?
                        Nonsense, that should be housed in a plastic tent (a la Metropolis) beside the Talus Balls.

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                        • #42
                          Let's make Edmonton better.

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                          • #43
                            Anyway, a museum like that would be far too large for the planetarium. Maybe the old Royal Alberta Museum building.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by JayBee View Post
                              How about a little museum of bad urban planning decisions?

                              Sure that won't fly with the fans (and I 3/4 heartedly appologise for the sarcasm) but I trust the point I'm genuine about will be taken as balance to the discussion.
                              sarcasm on c2e? Are you insane.

                              I would suggest a 'The Cash Store' or 'The Brick/Leons' corporate headquarters for the old planetarium.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by stunkermann View Post
                                I would suggest a 'The Cash Store' or 'The Brick/Leons' corporate headquarters for the old planetarium.
                                Well, it would draw more traffic to the park...

                                Originally posted by BalancedOP View Post
                                When I was last in the QEP there was a lot of work required to bring it back. It was a glorified storage room. The HVAC unit was replace but the old furnace system is still in place as well. The under-slab ducting had some water in it so expect mold and there is asbestos wrap.
                                I want this building preserved and you suggestion to install a new projector is great. I like the idea of renting it out as well. When I was a kid sitting in there I thought the room was massive. when I went back in about 8 years ago I saw how small it was.

                                I always remember sitting back and watching the transition from twilight to night time. the silhouette of the city skyline around the edges. and the cool feel of the room. I cannot remember how many school trips and cub scout trips we went on but I will always remember looking at the stars.

                                I have not gone to the MZ theater more than once since it was open.

                                Maybe its time we start a crowd fund to get this back into play.
                                On a serious note, though, it's great to hear some first-hand accounts. If anyone else remembers visiting the planetarium, it would be awesome to hear from you too.

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