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  • Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
    Yeah, yeah, judges appointed by conservatives are all just like Hitler. Something something 1984. Everyone attending Trump rallies are Nazis. Trump is Russian, yada yada.

    We get it.
    Did I say any of that?? Or are you just projecting?


    I said, how does appointments of judges help the average person?

    Sounds more like appointing conservative judges are to protect conservative politicians from their own malfeasance.

    Reducing gun crimes, fair wages, improved access to healthcare and passing mandates to lower cost drugs are much more important to the average person than judge appointments.

    Nice try though...
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    • The Republicans falsely claim that the House is full of "Do Nothing Democrats" who only want to impeach Trump when the truth is, the Democrats have passed hundreds of Bills but Moscow Mitch refuses tabling these important pieces of legislation that help average Americans.

      Moscow Mitch calls himself the "Grim Reaper" as Bills die as he destroys democracy

      'GRIM REAPER' MITCH MCCONNELL ADMITS THERE ARE 395 HOUSE BILLS SITTING IN THE SENATE: 'WE'RE NOT GOING TO PASS THOSE'
      https://www.newsweek.com/mitch-mccon...​​​​






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      • Originally posted by seamusmcduffs View Post

        Just another example of how you really don't understand how government works, or should work. You want a dictatorship, not a democracy.
        Trump was elected President. The Republican majority of the Senate were elected as well.

        It's the Senate's job to confirm judges appointed by the President. And that is what they are doing. Just like every single president and Senate before Trump.

        How is that a dictatorship?
        Last edited by MrOilers; 21-02-2020, 12:26 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post

          Did I say any of that??
          Yes. That's all you say.

          Something something white supremacy something Russian puppet something dictator Trump. Bigot, racist yadda yadda corruption. Orange man bad. Something something something Nazi. Something Trump illegal something yadda yadda.

          Bigot.

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          • And just ignore the majority in the House, a coequal branch of government?

            They call it the House of Representatives, who are duly elected.

            I thought there was more in government to do than just appointing your partisan friends to protect your interests.


            For the People, by the People?
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            • Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
              Democrats have passed hundreds of Bills
              So what? They still need Senate approval before they can become law.

              If these bills are part of the modern Democrat socialist or identity politics platform, the Republican-majority Senate will simply vote against all of them anyway. That's the point of having elected House and Senate in the USA - the two houses keep each other in check all the time.

              The USA isn't like here in Canada where the Prime Minister's party just passes everything they want and have it rubber stamped by the PM-appointed Senate without any chance of anyone voting it down.

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              • Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
                And just ignore the majority in the House, a coequal branch of government?

                They call it the House of Representatives, who are duly elected.
                The Senate is elected too, dummy.

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                • You missed the coequal part. The House is not blocking the senate, its the other way around.

                  The Senate gives only two seats per state, Wyoming with 578,000 people gets as much say as California with 39,512,223 people. The House of Representatives is based upon the population
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                  • Elected doesn't mean it's democratic.

                    https://www.vox.com/2020/2/6/2112540...lapportionment

                    Democrats actually control a majority of the Senate seats (26-24) representing the most populous half of the states. Republicans owe their majority in the Senate as a whole to their 29-21 lead in the least populous half of the states. This means that overall, the current Republican Senate “majority” represents about 15 million fewer people than the Democratic “minority.”

                    On the first article of impeachment, abuse of power, Republican Sen. Mitt Romney joined every member of the Democratic caucus to vote to remove President Trump from office. That means that the senators voting to convict represent about 170 million individuals — 18 million more people than the bloc of senators who voted to acquit.

                    I derived these numbers using a fairly simple method. Using 2016 US Census data for each state’s population, I created a two-column spreadsheet, with columns labeled “acquit” and “convict.” In each state where both senators voted to acquit, I allocated the full population of the state to the “acquit” column. I also allocated the full population of the state to the “convict” column in states where both senators voted to convict.

                    In states where the two senators split their vote, I allocated half the state’s population to one column and half to the other. All told, the senators voting to acquit represent about 152 million individuals, while senators voting to convict represent about 170 million individuals.
                    Trump can only "win" through subverted/corrupted democratic processes & electoral interference. He's never been the choice of the majority of Americans.
                    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                    • Who made Mitch Mcconnell the king?

                      Your argument is not logical. The Senate is elected but does not get to debate or vote on the bills. That is undemocratic and fails the logic test.

                      One Senate member from Kentucky who represents 0.67% of the population overrules the rest.
                      Last edited by Edmonton PRT; 21-02-2020, 01:46 PM.
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                      • Originally posted by Stoneman View Post
                        Wonder when all these politicians will actually get back to doing what their job it. As in, running the country.
                        There's a huge number of bills sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk that the House has sent to him. He refuses to even introduce them to the Senate.

                        So, who's the do nothing party?

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                        • Originally posted by Stoneman
                          Wonder when all these politicians will actually get back to doing what their job it. As in, running the country.
                          Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
                          There's a huge number of bills sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk that the House has sent to him. He refuses to even introduce them to the Senate.

                          So, who's the do nothing party?
                          House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them.
                          Legislative paralysis gripped Capitol Hill well before impeachment started.

                          Nov 29, 2019 https://www.vox.com/2019/11/29/20977...emocrats-trump

                          For months, President Donald Trump has fired off tweet missives accusing House Democrats of “getting nothing done in Congress,” and being consumed with impeachment.

                          Trump may want to look to the Republican-controlled Senate instead. Democrats in the House have been passing bills at a rapid clip; as of November 15, the House has passed nearly 400 bills, not including resolutions. But the House Democratic Policy and Communications Committee estimates 80 percent of those bill have hit a snag in the Senate, where Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is prioritizing confirming judges over passing bills.

                          Congress has passed just 70 bills into law this year. Granted, it still has one more year in its term, but the number pales in comparison to recent past sessions of Congress, which typically see 300-500 bills passed in two years (and that is even a diminished number from the 700-800 bills passed in the 1970s and 1980s).

                          Ten of those 70 bills this year have been renaming federal post offices or Veterans Affairs facilities, and many others are related to appropriations or extending programs like the National Flood Insurance Program or the 9/11 victim compensation fund.

                          This has led to House Democrats decrying McConnell’s so-called “legislative graveyard,” a moniker the Senate majority leader has proudly adopted. McConnell calls himself the “grim reaper” of Democratic legislation he derides as socialist, but many of the bills that never see the Senate floor are bipartisan issues, like a universal background check bill, net neutrality, and reauthorizing the Violence Against Women Act.

                          “From raising the minimum wage to ensuring equal pay, we have passed legislation to raise wages. And we have passed legislation to protect and expand health coverage and bring down prescription drug prices,” House Majority Leader Steny Hoyer said in a statement to Vox. “We continue to urge Senator McConnell to take up our bills, many of which are bipartisan.”


                          McConnell is focused on transforming the federal judiciary instead, with the Senate confirming over 150 of Trump’s nominees to the federal bench. And he has refused to bring Democratic bills to the Senate floor in part to protect vulnerable Republican senators from having to take tough votes that could divide the GOP ahead of the 2020 election. Still, some Senate Republicans fear inaction could make them just as vulnerable.
                          Clearl, Moscow Mitch is more intent to appoint judges and protect GOP Senators from Trump and possible losses in an election.

                          The Republican claim that the Democrats made the choice of investigations rather than legislation, are patently false, the stack of Bills on Moscow Mitch's desk are proof that it is the "Do Nothing" obstructionist Republicans are playing the same game that they used against Obama.

                          Republicans Keep Admitting Everything They Said About Obama Was a Lie
                          https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019...was-a-lie.html

                          White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, appearing on Fox News Sunday, repeated the official administration line that Democrats had to choose between legislation and investigation. Chris Wallace reminded Mulvaney that he had supported a Republican Congress that had engaged in continuous investigations of the White House, reopening probes to chase conspiracy theories even after they had been conclusively debunked.

                          This prompted Mulvaney to make an interesting confession. The Republican Congress never wanted to pass laws in the first place:
                          WALLACE: You were there, of what the Republicans did to Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton on Benghazi, on Fast and Furious. And they got some things done despite the fact that these were aggressive partisan investigations.

                          MULVANEY: Well, we didn’t get very much done. Listen, I’ll be the first to admit that when the tea party wave, of which I was one, got here in 2011, the last thing we were interested in was giving President Obama legislative successes.
                          The Party of No:
                          New Details on the GOP Plot to Obstruct Obama

                          https://swampland.time.com/2012/08/2...bstruct-obama/
                          “The Party of No,” an article adapted from my new book, The New New Deal: The Hidden Story of Change in the Obama Era. It reveals some of my reporting on the Republican plot to obstruct President Obama before he even took office, including secret meetings led by House GOP whip Eric Cantor (in December 200 and Senate minority leader Mitch McConnell (in early January 2009) in which they laid out their daring (though cynical and political) no-honeymoon strategy of all-out resistance to a popular President-elect during an economic emergency. “If he was for it,” former Ohio Senator George Voinovich explained, “we had to be against it.”
                          a turning point in the Obama era, when the new President went to the Hill to extend his hand and the GOP spurned it.

                          On Jan. 27, 2009, House Republican leader John Boehner opened his weekly conference meeting with an announcement: Obama would make his first visit to the Capitol around noon, to meet exclusively with Republicans about his economic-recovery plan. “We’re looking forward to the President’s visit,” Boehner said.

                          The niceties ended there, as Boehner turned to the $815 billion stimulus bill that House Democrats had just unveiled. Boehner complained that it would spend too much, too late, on too many Democratic goodies. He urged his members to trash it on cable, on YouTube, on the House floor: “It’s another run-of-the-mill, undisciplined, cumbersome, wasteful Washington spending bill … I hope everyone here will join me in voting no!”
                          “It was stunning that we’d set this up and, before hearing from the President, they’d say they were going to oppose this,” Axelrod says. “Our feeling was, we were dealing with a potential disaster of epic proportions that demanded cooperation. If anything was a signal of what the next two years would be like, it was that.”

                          But that wasn’t the only signal. A few other examples:

                          • Vice President Biden told me that during the transition, he was warned not to expect any bipartisan cooperation on major votes. “I spoke to seven different Republican Senators who said, ‘Joe, I’m not going to be able to help you on anything,’ ” he recalled. His informants said McConnell had demanded unified resistance. “The way it was characterized to me was, ‘For the next two years, we can’t let you succeed in anything. That’s our ticket to coming back,’ ” Biden said. The Vice President said he hasn’t even told Obama who his sources were, but Bob Bennett of Utah and Arlen Specter of Pennsylvania both confirmed they had conversations with Biden along those lines.
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                          • Julian Assange Lawyers To Argue Trump's New Intel Chief, Richard Grenell, Sought Shady Extradition Deal
                            https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/02/j...radition-deal/


                            The defence team hopes to show that this shows the U.S. aim in the extradition process was to score a political victory—looking tough by obtaining Assange—and not neutrally enforcing the law. However, the claim is based on evidence that is sure to be hotly contested as it includes material from Cassandra Fairbanks, a far-right activist who recorded calls with Arthur Schwartz, an associate of Grenell’s.

                            According to Politico, Fairbanks recorded two phone calls with Schwartz and took screenshots of additional conversations in which Schwartz (a Trump-affiliated GOP political operative, not a national security official) informed her of Grenell’s meetings with Ecuadorean officials. Schwartz later complained that she had tweeted “classified information” in a post in which she claimed that Grenell was “taking orders from the president” and he feared that the leak would be connected to him.
                            Politico said that Fairbanks also passed her information on to Property of the People, a nonprofit transparency organisation that works with journalists to expose government misconduct. In a statement to Politico, executive director Ryan Shapiro said that “the nation’s new top spy [Grenell] is a former Fox News contributor and far-right public relations flack who appears to have leaked classified information to a Trump family political fixer who subsequently shared it with a prominent alt-right blogger.” He added that his group aimed to stop the White House’s “ongoing seizure of power or suffer the United States’ descent into genuine authoritarianism.”
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                            • Trump took every credit for the upswing in the stock market.

                              So the 2,300 point drop in the past week is totally on him....
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                              • Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
                                One Senate member from Kentucky who represents 0.67% of the population overrules the rest.
                                Senators represent states, not population, dummy.

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