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  • Ask Patrick - Tuesday Question Thread

    Tuesday's question thread is now open.


    Disclosure. This was opened early as the Monday thread was closed early due to Oiler Game night.

  • #2
    Mr. Laforge

    1. Have the Olers given consideration to having their minor league farm tem relocate to Edmonton (to Rexall once we get a new arena) similar to Philadelphia?

    2. Would the new arena contain an Edmonton Oilers Hall of Fame?

    3. I would love to see the new arena have an organ in it. Are there any ideas floating around towards the arenas theme? I'm hoping for a retro theme, similar to what Baltimore did with Camdon Yards Ballpark.

    I would just like to end with a comment....can you do anything about getting rid of the "winchester bells theme" (I believe they are called) that are played when there is a penalty. Its done by a few other teams, and is really annoying.

    Mayor Mandel is a immature childish man


    • #3
      Hello Patrick.

      Thanks for supporting C2E through your participation this week.

      1. Is there any chance that you would consider running for mayor in 2010? (And have you been approached by anyone to run for mayor?)

      2. Does the Oilers Community Fund generate a tax write off for the team? (If so, how much is it?)

      3. How much will the Oilers save this year due to a higher than expected Canadian dollar?

      4. Can you say, categorically, that the Oilers will NOT play in Rexall Coliseum past the expiration of the current contract with Northlands?

      5. Have you had discussions with EEDC or the Shaw Conference Centre to manage the new downtown arena?

      6. Since the new arena would compete with Rexall Coliseum for concerts, would you endorse the demolition of Rexall Coliseum once the new arena is opened?

      Thank you!


      • #4
        Financial questions

        Mr. LaForge

        1. Can you please explain how the team will make money operating and financing a new rink when it can't make money operating virtually rent free and getting all lot of the revenues from the existing building, both during game days and a share of other events?

        2. Does the success of this business model require the elimination in some way of the current rink? If so, how will this be done? Can you compete on a level playing field with the Shaw, Northlands, etc for these other events?

        3. Can the Oilers afford to operate the Oil Kings and Rush out of the new building if revenues need to be maximized and other events are able to pay more for the same days/nights?

        4. Why do the Oilers support subsidizing the Phoenix Coyotes for millions of dollars a year if the money is needed for operations at home? Should taxpayers and ticket holders here be paying for a failing team in another city?
        Last edited by Hockey Dad; 19-10-2009, 05:44 PM.


        • #5
          Questions for Patrick

          Hello Patrick,

          Got some questions the local media usually is shy of asking.

          1. On
          February 20, 2007, you were quoted in the Globe and Mail:

          "The cap has climbed dramatically," said LaForge, referring to growth from $39-million a year ago to $44-million this season. "Much more than people thought it would or I thought it would.”

          "We're in Year 2 of a six-year deal and we'll see where it goes. But if the cap was a few million dollars less it would change the world for us."
          Can you explain what you meant by this sentiment? For an entity that has paid into revenue sharing each year since the lock-out [Indicative of top 10 revenue generating team in the NHL], in what sense would a lower cap ''change the world'' for the Edmonton Oilers?

          According the link below, the Oilers are doing very favourably in terms of one of the fewest ticket giveaways and among league leaders in gate receipt revenue.


          The Oilers already have a$1 lease on Rexall Place. Taxpayers already subsidize the deal to the tune of $2.5 million annually. The Oilers want more? Isn't the owner already a billionaire?
          Why do Edmonton taxpayers subsidize the Oilers lease to the sum of $2.5M annually when the team is clearly a top 10 revenue generating organization, and the team has very favourable lease terms?


          3. You recently claimed the Edmonton Oilers ''lost quite a bit of money'' in the past year, in addition to implying the Oilers could relocate without the help of a new arena. If a top 10 revenue generating team is having difficulty making money, are you unintentionally implying 20 other teams in the league are in financial difficulty?

          4. According to the link below, it was effectively the Alberta Taxpayers who paid for the Oilers $3.5M dressing room renovations [via provincial grant].

          The provincial government put up millions of dollars in grants to build the former Northlands Coliseum in the 1970s, and Calgary's Saddledome in the 1980s. And only last year, each venue got more provincial dollars for upgrades, including $10 million for Rexall Place that helped renovate the Oilers' and visitors' dressing rooms
          On an Oilers pay-per-view segment after these renovations were complete, the Oilers organization was taking credit on these renovations, implying the EIG paid for these renovations. Would it not have been fair to give at least partial credit to the public [read: taxpayers] for funding these luxury dressing room upgrades?

          5. Does it not concern the Oilers that a new arena could push the CFR [Canadian Finals Rodeo] out of Edmonton to the rival city 3 hours south? The CFR draws considerable economic benefits for the City of Edmonton in that a number of patrons in attendance are from out of town. How come this factor has been ignored/undermined/not disclosed in the powerful efforts for the new arena movement?

          6. When massive amounts of public [i.e. taxpayer] funding are transferred to a private entity [i.e. Edmonton Oilers], the public would generally desire transparency and full disclosure to make informed decisions [i.e. whether they support the allocation of tax dollars to a new downtown arena]. Would the Oilers organization be willing to open their books to the public, which would provide assurance as to whether or not the Oilers require a new arena to remain a going concern?

          Thanks in advance,

          Last edited by PunjabiOil; 19-10-2009, 05:39 PM.


          • #6
            Mr LaForge,

            In light of recent coverage of the ongoing arena developments, do you feel that the local media has been unfair to the Katz Group/ Oilers organization?

            Especially regarding the complaints of secrecy, will we be seeing the Oilers work more closely with the city on the arena as a partnership, or is the intent to develop essentially as a private development that would not require the high degree of transparency and public input that the media (and many citizens) have been demanding based on the assumption that the arena project would be a city-led initiative?

            Thanks For your time.



            • #7
              Hello Patrick,

              1. In terms of feasability, how imperative is it for Rexall Sports to be the sole owner of a new arena?

              2. When Mr. Katz was pursuing purchase of the Oilers he stated that he would fund a training facility for the Oilers at the U of A. Is this facility still on the radar? If so, has any planning started in relation to this facility? And would this facility be accessible to the public in any compacity during times of non-use by the hockey club?

              Thank you for your time
              Last edited by Montrosian; 19-10-2009, 11:44 PM.
              Vision - The art of seeing the invisible


              • #8
                Mr. LaForge

                While I don't follow hockey I have admired your accomplishments and the vision shown in all of your projects. You seem to have great insight in what it takes to make great things happen in the world around you.

                Edmonton has a short term history of dithering and talking rather than creating a vision and moving ahead. In short talking not doing.

                What are your thoughts on how we as a city can break this cast and take advantage of all the opportunities that come before us?

                Thank you for joining us and taking the time to answer our questions.

                Tom Hinderks