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  • #16
    Originally posted by Spudly View Post
    I've had multiple UPSes from multiple venors for decades and never had one "fry" from a surge, even in a building with an elevator that would sometimes brown-out the circuit the wall with the UPSes drew its power (which was more fun than being in the elevator at that moment).

    Go get one of these: https://www.londondrugs.com/apc-back.../L9319963.html for 70 bucks (often on sale) and use it for your computer and modem and router and it's a good investment - way better than a power bar from any vendor. Double that if you're on a rural line.
    from your link:

    "Power your wireless home networking equipment (router and modem) and maintain your internet connections for 2+ hours after safely shutting down your PC or other high powered devices."

    we've had lightening strike our house, coming in through an eave and exiting through the co-ax and cat 6 running in the attic to the main ground beside the entry point for the router. pretty sure it would have fried this usp just as it did the power bar. besides which it was a darn sight longer for service to get restored than 2+ hours even if it had survived a surge coming from the wrong direction. the fire department disconnected the main service and epcor won't reconnect until an electrician has been able to come in and repair/reinspect/recertify everything. in the meantime the fire department has left and says "call us if there's any hotspots we missed that flare up".
    "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Spudly View Post
      I've had multiple UPSes from multiple venors for decades and never had one "fry" from a surge, even in a building with an elevator that would sometimes brown-out the circuit the wall with the UPSes drew its power (which was more fun than being in the elevator at that moment).

      Go get one of these: https://www.londondrugs.com/apc-back.../L9319963.html for 70 bucks (often on sale) and use it for your computer and modem and router and it's a good investment - way better than a power bar from any vendor. Double that if you're on a rural line.
      Just keep in mind that if you're using a UPS for your PC, that the one linked will only handle a fairly low powered one. If you have any sort of GPU in your system, you'll need to start at 600VA at least. And also keep in mind that they're lead acid batteries and will need replacement every 3-5 years.

      Otherwise I wholeheartedly recommend UPS's and have one with all of personal and work computers.

      And yes, I've never had a UPS get fried from a surge, or even a more typical surge protector. It happens, sure, but it's extremely rare.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by kcantor View Post

        we've had lightening strike our house, coming in through an eave and exiting through the co-ax and cat 6 running in the attic to the main ground beside the entry point for the router. pretty sure it would have fried this usp just as it did the power bar.
        My sister had lightning strike one of those small pad mounted transformers that were located in front of her neighbor's front yard. It destroyed the transformer and the resulting surge damaged several electrical devices in her house that were all connected to surge protectors. She lost a big screen TV, printer, desktop computer, router as well as a few other items.
        Did my dog just fall into a pothole???

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        • #19
          Originally posted by kcantor View Post
          ^

          most people that have had to go a couple of days without power at some point are probably predisposed to a communication system that is is self-powered. maybe less important to some than others now with longer cell phone battery life and battery packs but even those are only good for a limited time even if fully charged.

          well landline will only work for so long in a prolonged power outage anyways as the telco is running on backup power source too, and that will only hold out so long.
          A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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          • #20
            And just because you have a landline doesn't mean it'll function in the event of an outage if you're on fibre. The POTS inside the home is a product of the ONT. No power to the ONT, no power to the POTS lines.

            ONTs typically have a battery backup versus being centrally powered.
            Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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            • #21
              ^^

              true enough but the telco's backup is probably diesel or gas fired generators, not battery powered ups. they'll run as long as they have fuel delivery.
              "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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              • #22
                ^^

                which is the noted difference between twisted pair copper and voip telephone service.
                "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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                • #23
                  POTS over fibre isn't VOIP.
                  Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                  • #24
                    No it's not, but it's definitely marketed as VOIP...

                    Looking at you ComWave
                    A people that elect corrupt politicians, imposters, thieves and traitors are not victims, but accomplices.

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                    • #25
                      Comwave is VOIP.

                      POTS via a Telus ONT is not.

                      Neither will function in a power outage once their battery backups run out. The Telus ONT has an internal one, whereas with Comwave you'd need to roll your own UPS solution.

                      Source: Am a Comwave customer with my infrastructure behind a UPS, power conditioner & surge protector.
                      Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by noodle View Post
                        Comwave is VOIP.

                        POTS via a Telus ONT is not.

                        Neither will function in a power outage once their battery backups run out. The Telus ONT has an internal one, whereas with Comwave you'd need to roll your own UPS solution.

                        Source: Am a Comwave customer with my infrastructure behind a UPS, power conditioner & surge protector.
                        anytime i learn something it's a good day.

                        thanks for making today a good day right from the start.

                        even though even telus ont is not good old copper twisted pair even if it isn't voip.
                        Last edited by kcantor; 11-09-2019, 08:48 AM.
                        "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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                        • #27
                          When the book Good Omens was written, a character using an answering machine was normal. When they recently made an Amazon mini series, the answering machine now fit into the characters love of antique technology .

                          Panasonic makes good wired/wireless phones, with the primary unit being a wired phone with an answering machine, and then multiple wireless handsets paired to the main unit. I don't know for sure if the base unit will work with main power off. Good luck!

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                          • #28
                            Speaking of telco backups, I was on a tour in the 90s of the 104St/104Ave swtiching station, as a member of their Small Business Advisory Panel. It still had the old electromechanical switches for some exchanges - racks of them that quietly rusted like the breeze through a poplar stand. I still have one of those switches in my "old technology" collection. But on the second floor was a backup battery: a 9'x3'x3' (at least, from memory) glass-walled tank full of suphuric acid with a cathode at one end and an anode at the other. Like a giant fish tank.

                            Whenever I am shoppng for a new cordless phone, I ask the clerk which ones get returned the least and buy that one, and for a decade ot so it's always been a Panasonic.
                            I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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