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  • howie
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    One more POS erased.
    https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-50611788

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  • kkozoriz
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    Netanyahu takes page from Trump playbook.

    Benjamin Netanyahu, the prime minister of Israel, charged with bribery, fraud
    Netanyahu has said he has no intention to resign, and maintains he's the victim of a conspiracy of left-wing opponents and media figures

    Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu will stand trial for bribery and fraud, an unprecedented development that could doom his career and shape the political crisis that’s gripped Israel this past year.


    The 70-year-old Netanyahu will be charged in each of the three cases in which he was entangled, the Justice Ministry said in a statement, painting the picture of a leader who abused his position to take gifts from wealthy friends and sacrificed the integrity of his office to win favorable media coverage.

    https://nationalpost.com/news/world/...-bribery-fraud

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  • Stoneman
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    Nice that this type of individual is erased. But there are 10,000 more waiting in line to take his place. Never ending story over there.

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  • Edmonton PRT
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    Bigger than bin Laden? 3 striking things about Trump’s announcement that Baghdadi is dead.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...hdadi-is-dead/

    He also disclosed that Russia was given a heads-up about the operation, even as top Democrats in Congress were not. “We told them, ‘We’re coming in.’ … And they said, ‘Thank you for telling us,’ ” Trump said. He added, “They did not know the mission.”

    Trump said, however, that he didn’t tell House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) because he worried about leaks spoiling the operation. Before the news conference, there were reports that Trump also hadn’t notified House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam B. Schiff (D-Calif.), who is a leader of the impeachment inquiry against Trump but would generally be a member of Congress you’d inform about these things.


    Trump seems to be indicating that he trusts Russia with this information more than congressional Democrats, which will be a talking point in the days ahead. He also seems to be placing Russia ahead of the Kurds, even though Russia wasn’t actually involved in the mission, which seems a conspicuous choice.

    The third striking thing is the credit-taking. Trump wasn’t initially very forward about how much credit he thought he deserved for this. As he took questions, it was clear what he was angling for.

    Most significantly, he repeatedly alluded to the idea that Baghdadi’s death was a bigger moment than Osama bin Laden’s. Bin Laden was killed in 2011 on President Barack Obama’s watch, and Trump at the time accused Obama of taking credit for it.

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  • Edmonton PRT
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    Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Compare Trump's reaction then and now. It's good that another terrorist leader is no more but it's not due to the leadership of Donald Trump.

    “ISIS was all over the place … It was me…who captured them,” Trump told reporters at a cabinet meeting Monday in the White House. “I’m the one who did the capturing. I’m the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits.”
    Amazing that General Bonespurs is back in action

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  • kkozoriz
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    Trump's post raid announcement including promoting his book,

    The 41 most shocking lines from Donald Trump's Baghdadi announcement

    12. "And we would kill terrorist leaders but they were names I never heard of, they were names that weren't recognizable and they weren't the big names. Some good ones, some important ones, but they weren't the big names."
    When killing terrorists, you always have to go for the big names. Also: Sort of weird that the President admits he didn't know the names of some of the terrorists the US has killed under his watch, no?


    13. "You know, they use the internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump."
    So, ISIS uses the Internet better than everyone except Donald Trump? OK, got it! Totally normal stuff here!


    14. "And what they've done with the internet through recruiting and everything -- and that's why he died like a dog, he died like a coward. He was whimpering, screaming and crying."
    These sentences are not edited at all. This is exactly what Trump said and in this order. Why did he switch from talking about the Internet to talking about, again, how Baghdadi died? (It was like a dog and a coward, FYI.) I have no idea.

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/27/polit...sis/index.html
    Compare and contrast with Obama after the death of Osama bin Laden,

    President Obama addresses the Nation to announce that the United States has killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda.

    https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...bin-laden-dead

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  • kkozoriz
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    Compare Trump's reaction then and now. It's good that another terrorist leader is no more but it's not due to the leadership of Donald Trump.

    “ISIS was all over the place … It was me…who captured them,” Trump told reporters at a cabinet meeting Monday in the White House. “I’m the one who did the capturing. I’m the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits.”

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  • KC
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    ISIS leader al-Baghdadi killed in U.S. military raid in Syria: Trump - National | Globalnews.ca


    https://globalnews.ca/news/6088118/i...ump-statement/



    Who was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and why is his death important? | Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi | The Guardian
    Excerpts:

    “His declaration was roundly rejected by almost all Islamic religious authorities but his caliphate became a magnet for thousands of foreign fighters and women. “

    ...
    “Baghdadi was not just an operational leader, but a symbol of Isis’s Islamic credentials: he had claimed to come from the same tribe as the prophet Muhammad, to be a descendant of the prophet’s grandson, and to fulfil the necessary ideological and religious tests rightfully to claim leadership of Muslims.

    His death is another strike against Isis’ purported legitimacy, leaving it less able to claim to be any different from other violent extremist groups.”

    https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nt-isis-caliph
    Last edited by KC; 27-10-2019, 07:23 AM.

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  • KC
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    Letter detailing civilian presence failed to prevent deadly Afghan drone strike - Reuters

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1W431P

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  • KC
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    Viewpoint: The CIA, 9/11 and collective blindness - BBC News


    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49582852

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  • Edmonton PRT
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    You have to look at not just Afghanistan but also the interlinked Iraq war

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  • KC
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    Afghanistan: Has the war cost America $500bn? - BBC News
    “So, according to the US Department of Defense, the total military expenditure in Afghanistan (from October 2001 until March 2019) was $760bn.
    That's significantly more than the figure given by the Afghan president.
    But an independent study carried out by Brown University's Cost of War Project argues that the official US figures for Afghanistan are a substantial underestimate.
    It says they do not include spending on war veterans' care, money spent on other government departments for war-related activities and the cost of interest on debt incurred to pay for the war.
    It estimates the total cost, factoring in these additional elements, is closer to one trillion US dollars.”...

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47391821

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  • KC
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    So if I read this correctly the odds were 9 in 10 for it happening anyway - that shows how ineffective the peacekeeping forces were at stopping a genocide of the Muslims in 1995.


    Srebrenica massacre: Dutch troops '10% liable' for Srebrenica massacre - BBC News

    “13 July: First killings of unarmed Muslims take place near village of Kravica. Peacekeepers hand over some 5,000 Muslims sheltering at Dutch base in exchange for the release of 14 Dutch peacekeepers held by Bosnian Serbs

    14 July: Reports of massacres start to emerge”

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49042372

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  • KC
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    Christchurch attack: Brenton Tarrant pleads not guilty to all charges - BBC News

    https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48631488

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  • KC
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    Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
    Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
    Does Obama and Hillary Clinton call Muslims "Black rock worshippers"?

    No? Then why do they call Christians "Easter worshippers"?
    Plenty of news stories can be found where Muslims are referred to as "Hajj pilgrims".
    That's always a specific group of muslims - those on the Hajj at that time. That's not at all the same as "Easter worshippers". More like, say, lent observers or Mass participants.

    Anyway, if making up words for people groups without their concent is OK again, does that mean we can go back to Mohammendans, Red Indians and Chinamen?
    I didn’t know it ever stopped. C2e itself is chock full of posts doing exactly that.

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