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  • Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
    Haha. Oh please. Nobody has ever called a Christian an Easter worshipper before. Christians don't worship "Easter". And don't pretend for a second that they do.


    Obama and Hillary DELIBERATELY called these people that name instead of calling them Christians.

    The question is why? It's not a normal thing to say.
    I can buy that. I can’t by the “refused” spin.

    So is it an outlier to say that?


    Interesting article with many interesting points. Some of the one I quote seems rational too. Sort of like the NRA’s trying to say that not all gun owners are potential mass shooters.


    ‘Easter Worshippers’ and the Left’s Allergy to Language | The American Conservative

    Excerpt:
    Yet Obama insisted that we shouldn’t be “yapping” about Islamic terrorism, because to do so would grant those groups religious legitimacy and frame the conflict as a war between Islam and the West.

    “They are not religious leaders—they’re terrorists,” Obama said. “And we are not at war with Islam. We are at war with people who have perverted Islam.”

    Obama also asserted that using the phrase “Islamic terrorism” would make “young Muslims in this country and around the world feel like no matter what they do, they’re going to be under suspicion and under attack. It makes Muslim Americans feel like their government is betraying them.”

    https://www.theamericanconservative....y-to-language/
    Last edited by KC; 25-04-2019, 07:30 PM.

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    • Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
      Does Obama and Hillary Clinton call Muslims "Black rock worshippers"?

      No? Then why do they call Christians "Easter worshippers"?
      Plenty of news stories can be found where Muslims are referred to as "Hajj pilgrims".

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      • Alexandre Bissonnette's Father Asks Trudeau To Stop Calling Son A Terrorist | HuffPost Canada

        “worshippers”

        https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2019/0...st_a_23717753/

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        • Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
          Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
          Does Obama and Hillary Clinton call Muslims "Black rock worshippers"?

          No? Then why do they call Christians "Easter worshippers"?
          Plenty of news stories can be found where Muslims are referred to as "Hajj pilgrims".
          That's always a specific group of muslims - those on the Hajj at that time. That's not at all the same as "Easter worshippers". More like, say, lent observers or Mass participants.

          Anyway, if making up words for people groups without their concent is OK again, does that mean we can go back to Mohammendans, Red Indians and Chinamen?
          There can only be one.

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          • Originally posted by Highlander II View Post
            Originally posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
            Originally posted by MrOilers View Post
            Does Obama and Hillary Clinton call Muslims "Black rock worshippers"?

            No? Then why do they call Christians "Easter worshippers"?
            Plenty of news stories can be found where Muslims are referred to as "Hajj pilgrims".
            That's always a specific group of muslims - those on the Hajj at that time. That's not at all the same as "Easter worshippers". More like, say, lent observers or Mass participants.

            Anyway, if making up words for people groups without their concent is OK again, does that mean we can go back to Mohammendans, Red Indians and Chinamen?
            I didn’t know it ever stopped. C2e itself is chock full of posts doing exactly that.

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            • Christchurch attack: Brenton Tarrant pleads not guilty to all charges - BBC News

              https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-48631488

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              • So if I read this correctly the odds were 9 in 10 for it happening anyway - that shows how ineffective the peacekeeping forces were at stopping a genocide of the Muslims in 1995.


                Srebrenica massacre: Dutch troops '10% liable' for Srebrenica massacre - BBC News

                “13 July: First killings of unarmed Muslims take place near village of Kravica. Peacekeepers hand over some 5,000 Muslims sheltering at Dutch base in exchange for the release of 14 Dutch peacekeepers held by Bosnian Serbs

                14 July: Reports of massacres start to emerge”

                https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-49042372

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                • Afghanistan: Has the war cost America $500bn? - BBC News
                  “So, according to the US Department of Defense, the total military expenditure in Afghanistan (from October 2001 until March 2019) was $760bn.
                  That's significantly more than the figure given by the Afghan president.
                  But an independent study carried out by Brown University's Cost of War Project argues that the official US figures for Afghanistan are a substantial underestimate.
                  It says they do not include spending on war veterans' care, money spent on other government departments for war-related activities and the cost of interest on debt incurred to pay for the war.
                  It estimates the total cost, factoring in these additional elements, is closer to one trillion US dollars.”...

                  https://www.bbc.com/news/world-47391821

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                  • You have to look at not just Afghanistan but also the interlinked Iraq war

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                    • Viewpoint: The CIA, 9/11 and collective blindness - BBC News


                      https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49582852

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                      • Letter detailing civilian presence failed to prevent deadly Afghan drone strike - Reuters

                        https://www.reuters.com/article/us-a...-idUSKBN1W431P

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                        • ISIS leader al-Baghdadi killed in U.S. military raid in Syria: Trump - National | Globalnews.ca


                          https://globalnews.ca/news/6088118/i...ump-statement/



                          Who was Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi and why is his death important? | Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi | The Guardian
                          Excerpts:

                          “His declaration was roundly rejected by almost all Islamic religious authorities but his caliphate became a magnet for thousands of foreign fighters and women. “

                          ...
                          “Baghdadi was not just an operational leader, but a symbol of Isis’s Islamic credentials: he had claimed to come from the same tribe as the prophet Muhammad, to be a descendant of the prophet’s grandson, and to fulfil the necessary ideological and religious tests rightfully to claim leadership of Muslims.

                          His death is another strike against Isis’ purported legitimacy, leaving it less able to claim to be any different from other violent extremist groups.”

                          https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...nt-isis-caliph
                          Last edited by KC; 27-10-2019, 08:23 AM.

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                          • Compare Trump's reaction then and now. It's good that another terrorist leader is no more but it's not due to the leadership of Donald Trump.

                            “ISIS was all over the place … It was me…who captured them,” Trump told reporters at a cabinet meeting Monday in the White House. “I’m the one who did the capturing. I’m the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits.”

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                            • Trump's post raid announcement including promoting his book,

                              The 41 most shocking lines from Donald Trump's Baghdadi announcement

                              12. "And we would kill terrorist leaders but they were names I never heard of, they were names that weren't recognizable and they weren't the big names. Some good ones, some important ones, but they weren't the big names."
                              When killing terrorists, you always have to go for the big names. Also: Sort of weird that the President admits he didn't know the names of some of the terrorists the US has killed under his watch, no?


                              13. "You know, they use the internet better than almost anybody in the world, perhaps other than Donald Trump."
                              So, ISIS uses the Internet better than everyone except Donald Trump? OK, got it! Totally normal stuff here!


                              14. "And what they've done with the internet through recruiting and everything -- and that's why he died like a dog, he died like a coward. He was whimpering, screaming and crying."
                              These sentences are not edited at all. This is exactly what Trump said and in this order. Why did he switch from talking about the Internet to talking about, again, how Baghdadi died? (It was like a dog and a coward, FYI.) I have no idea.

                              https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/27/polit...sis/index.html
                              Compare and contrast with Obama after the death of Osama bin Laden,

                              President Obama addresses the Nation to announce that the United States has killed Osama bin Laden, the leader of al Qaeda.

                              https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov...bin-laden-dead

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                              • Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
                                Compare Trump's reaction then and now. It's good that another terrorist leader is no more but it's not due to the leadership of Donald Trump.

                                “ISIS was all over the place … It was me…who captured them,” Trump told reporters at a cabinet meeting Monday in the White House. “I’m the one who did the capturing. I’m the one who knows more about it than you people or the fake pundits.”
                                Amazing that General Bonespurs is back in action

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