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    Mysterious Map

    Bob Layton's Blog
    Wednesday, February 14, 2007


    So, city council has an extra 15 million dollars to put into an art gallery. I was thinking about that as the front end of my car hit a nasty pothole. But then, I don’t know how much pavement you can repair for only 15 million dollars.

    We had to beg to get the snow cleared so we could get into our neighborhoods, but there was 15 million dollars sitting unneeded somewhere for the art gallery. Kids in the inner city are hungry. How far would 15 million go towards a hot lunch program? The homeless are freezing but maybe they can beg enough change for a ticket to get warm in the art gallery.

    How many times will you ever go there? Some on council suggest communities just outside the city should chip in, well, don’t hold your breath waiting for that. And, as always, some are suggesting this new gallery will put us on the map.

    I keep hearing about this map that doesn’t have us on it. Weren’t we told over the years that the Oilers and the Eskimos and international events and the Grand Prix and many other wonders had put us on that mysterious map? Sure hope this 15 million dollars gets us on the next one.

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  • #2
    ^ I heard this editorial this morning and it resonated with me.

    Here are a sampling of the five comments (so far) back to Bob's Blog.

    Wayne said...

    RE: Mysterious Map

    I live in Strathcona County. The last time I checked, we were on 'THE MAP'.

    It's no wonder mayor Stephen Mandell would like to see municipal shared revenues. Edmonton has expensive tastes.
    February 14, 2007 - 12:08:23 PM

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    Daniel said...

    RE: Mysterious Map

    That should be enough to rename a few streets! We can never get enough of that!

    This city council is a joke! It makes me even happier to be living in a surrounding community.

    February 14, 2007 - 11:22:51 AM


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    terry bastable said...


    RE: Mysterious Map


    great idea on the comfort station.

    Perhaps we should also consider a bus service to bring them from downtown to the heart of Glenora.

    But the crux seems to be that this is the Alberta Art Museum, why should Edmonton have to fund any of it, like the outlying areas we pay our provincial taxes and should not have to pay for provincial facilities located in our city.

    February 14, 2007 - 10:03:54 AM

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    Alain Deverdenne said...

    RE: Mysterious Map

    Since we can never find a solution that satisfies everybody, we may as well send out another batch of rebate cheques to Albertans. Probelm solved!!!

    February 14, 2007 - 9:09:06 AM

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    Dusty said...


    RE: Mysterious Map


    I am more concerned about the background behind these additional costs in the first place.

    Is it fraud? Or is it incompetence?

    It seems our society has forgotten the purpose of drawing up a contract. A contract that does not have a clear, unambiguous bottom line is worthless. The onus should be on the contractor to do proper cost estimating or even lock in his costs prior to offering a bid.

    Whether an art gallery, traffic interchange, new home, or energy delivery, without a clear and definite final cost to the consumer, the only map we end up on is the one showing gullible fools who are ready to be fleeced.

    DW

    February 14, 2007 - 8:51:27 AM

    Bob:

    RE: RE: Mysterious Map
    They tell us it's the rising cost of cement that's driving up the price. Maybe we should be stockpiling cement for future use.


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    • #3
      Originally posted by djgirl
      ^ I heard this editorial this morning and it resonated with me.

      Here are a sampling of the five comments (so far) back to Bob's Blog.

      DW

      February 14, 2007 - 8:51:27 AM

      Bob:

      RE: RE: Mysterious Map
      They tell us it's the rising cost of cement that's driving up the price. Maybe we should be stockpiling cement for future use.


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      Um... dude... that stuff hardens if you let it sit around.
      [email protected][email protected]: the 5th Horseman of the Apocalypse

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      • #4
        Re: Mysterious Map...hope this puts Edmonton on it.

        Originally posted by djgirl
        Mysterious Map

        Bob Layton's Blog
        Wednesday, February 14, 2007


        So, city council has an extra 15 million dollars to put into an art gallery. I was thinking about that as the front end of my car hit a nasty pothole. But then, I don’t know how much pavement you can repair for only 15 million dollars.

        We had to beg to get the snow cleared so we could get into our neighborhoods, but there was 15 million dollars sitting unneeded somewhere for the art gallery. Kids in the inner city are hungry. How far would 15 million go towards a hot lunch program? The homeless are freezing but maybe they can beg enough change for a ticket to get warm in the art gallery.

        How many times will you ever go there? Some on council suggest communities just outside the city should chip in, well, don’t hold your breath waiting for that. And, as always, some are suggesting this new gallery will put us on the map.

        I keep hearing about this map that doesn’t have us on it. Weren’t we told over the years that the Oilers and the Eskimos and international events and the Grand Prix and many other wonders had put us on that mysterious map? Sure hope this 15 million dollars gets us on the next one.

        --30--
        Blah blah blah blah blah.
        “Canada is the only country in the world that knows how to live without an identity,”-Marshall McLuhan

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        • #5
          I suggest some people place there comments on that blog. Bob's Editorials have become pretty negative. I sure hope the oilers game go over to 1260 soon.

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          • #6
            voted no because, well, it wouldn't. I am still very much in support of the gallery. Any investment in the arts is good. THis one will expand exhibition space and make it more attractive. That in turn will invite more people and more shows into the library. This in turn will put a little bit more money in to the city's businesses and provide a few extra jobs. It will also help the development in and around the gallery. etc, etc...

            as for the sherwood park guy--sounds like he would consider a stick man sufficient to be called art. It may be so. For all the other people living in the Prk and the surrounding areas--wouldn't they come to see art displayed at this new and improved gallery? Shouldn't they pitch in?

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            • #7
              We'd be a lot poorer according to my method of keeping books if we didn't appreciate art.....

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              • #8
                Isn't the goal of these forums to constructively and positively look at all sides of an issue?

                People are asking questions about costs and rightly so. Give them the opportunity to voice their opinions.

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                • #9
                  One way to look at it is why does a different design mean in itself that there will be more economic activity?

                  Surely the proposed design is simply a repackaging.

                  It's what goes on inside and behind the scenes that makes a difference (Kudos to the present Director who seems to have made a big difference with programming and exhibitions)

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Rocket252
                    Isn't the goal of these forums to constructively and positively look at all sides of an issue?

                    People are asking questions about costs and rightly so. Give them the opportunity to voice their opinions.
                    Don't you think Bob Laytion has an opportunity to voice his opinion? He gets paid for it, and then has its one-way conveyance to the voting completely subsidised through two media avenues. His opinion is megalomultiplivoiced, in fact.

                    If he doesn't like potholes, he's not alone, and that's fine. But if he thinks his zero-tolerance-pet-pothole-platoon (Lets call it the "Zed-Tee-Triple-Pee" for short) takes exclusive priority over, for example, city aesthetics and cultural refinement, well, please let me meekly voice my disagreeance.
                    Let's make Edmonton better.

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                    • #11
                      I voted Yes because it will HELP put Edmonton on the map.
                      Just like the updated museum, new and better quality condos, expanded LRT etc. Outsiders talk about these kind of things.

                      I guarantee you that filling potholes, clearing snow, hot lunch programs etc. will do absolutely nothing in putting Edmonton on the map becasue outsiders NEVER talk about petty issues.

                      Yes, Bob Layton is paid to complain about things, and sometimes he runs out of important things to compain about so he writes petty arguements like the one above.

                      Suggestion to Bob:
                      Complain about the lack of serious issues to complain about!
                      Edmonton first, everything else second.

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                      • #12
                        To hell with the map. I don't care about being 'on the map'.

                        This gallery is for Edmonton and Albertans. Putting it into a boring box sends the message that aesthetics don't matter, and that art doesn't matter.

                        That is why art galleries around the world tend to be cutting edge architecturally. Because an institution whose central goal is being the custodian of the art that matters to it's constituents had better send a clear message that design and art matter.

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                        • #13
                          I think Bob should write for the SUN.

                          I used to find his ramblings somewhat interesting, but lately it has become clear that he is nothing more than a bitter old man who is stuck in 1954.

                          Between Layton and the guy who whores himself out for Tony Roma's I can't understand how anybody could stand CHED beyond their hourly news updates.

                          This gallery is for Edmonton and Albertans. Putting it into a boring box sends the message that aesthetics don't matter, and that art doesn't matter.
                          Bingo. What kind of person wants to live in a world of Hall D's?

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by LindseyT
                            I think Bob should write for the SUN.

                            I used to find his ramblings somewhat interesting, but lately it has become clear that he is nothing more than a bitter old man who is stuck in 1954.

                            Between Layton and the guy who whores himself out for Tony Roma's I can't understand how anybody could stand CHED beyond their hourly news updates.

                            This gallery is for Edmonton and Albertans. Putting it into a boring box sends the message that aesthetics don't matter, and that art doesn't matter.
                            Bingo. What kind of person wants to live in a world of Hall D's?
                            I, I, I... can't believe I am about to write this...but, but, but I totaly agree with you (on all points, OMG).

                            CHED drives me nuts and with the exception of the news updates, traffic and HOCKEY (if I am on the road) I can't stand to listen esp. Brian "blow hard-whore" Hall. When he comes on to shill something...Tony Romas, That's Aroma or Adult Living (depends underwear MB ) I ALWAYS turn the station.

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                            • #15
                              Half of Bryan Hall's airtime is spent advertising. It fricking annoys me. He catches me off guard everytime. The way he makes the transition into a commercial is so smooth. I never see it coming.

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