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  • Originally posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Whatever kcantor

    You win. Take a lollipop...
    no lollipop is required, it wasn’t a competition.

    it was a simple matter of being correct or incorrect regarding something pretty insignificant in the grand scheme of things.

    it was you who chose to try and defend your painted corner as if was a beachhead at normandy.
    "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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    • Cold, hard reality is starting to dawn in Sweden: https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/sweden...tion-1.5596235

      It's interesting that Tegnell indicates that "rest of the world" went in to lockdown. That's not true, at all. Most of Europe did, yes, but countries like Japan, Taiwan and so on never did. Even Canada and Germany didn't truly lockdown, as many businesses continued to operate and people were still permitted to leave their homes.

      Obviously it's not just the measures taken by governments that impact the course of the disease, as travel patterns, demography and living arrangements all play a part. Sweden actually had a ton of things going for it in terms of many single-person households and so on. Even then, it's one of the hardest hit in the world due to poor decision making by the authorities. If you compare it to direct peer countries like Norway (death rate 1/10th), Finland (1/8th), and Denmark (1/4) it's pretty clear that they chose a poor path. I haven't seen much for economic comparisons yet, but I'd be willing to bet that Sweden's economy will have barely performed any better, if at all.

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      • Open the economy and people will die. Simple as that. The question is, how many do they see as acceptable losses? Remember, when we see confirmed cases, they could have been walking around for up to two weeks before showing symptoms.


        ​​​​​​CDC Document Shows Just How Badly the U.S. Is Handling Coronavirus Compared to Other Countries

        ​​​​​​Leaked CDC documents dated June 9 that were obtained and published by Yahoo News this week show the U.S. is still exhibiting astronomical increases in new cases of the virus, doing far worse to contain it than the other nine nations who have experienced the highest number of total cases: Brazil, Russia, the United Kingdom, India, Spain, Italy, Peru, Germany, and Iran. The CDC document shows that the U.S. experienced an estimated 36.5% uptick in confirmed daily cases, which is far above any of the other countries. (The closest is Peru, which saw a 4.46% increase in confirmed daily cases.)

        Another document from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, also from June 9, confirmed the 36.5% statistic, according to Yahoo News. The FEMA document also shows that the rolling average of daily deaths in the U.S. is beginning to exceed 1,000 per day.

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        • Trump's miracle cure officially goes down as unlikely effective as declared by his own Federal Drug Administration.

          FDA terminates emergency use authorization of hydroxychloroquine for Covid-19

          The US Food and Drug Administration has revoked its emergency use authorization for the drugs hydroxychloroquine and chloroquine for the treatment of Covid-19.

          After reviewing the current research available on the drugs, the FDA determined that the drugs do not meet "the statutory criteria" for emergency use authorization as they are unlikely to be effective in treating Covid-19 based on the latest scientific evidence, the agency noted on its website on Monday.

          "FDA has concluded that, based on this new information and other information discussed in the attached memorandum, it is no longer reasonable to believe that oral formulations of HCQ and CQ may be effective in treating COVID-19, nor is it reasonable to believe that the known and potential benefits of these products outweigh their known and potential risks," FDA chief scientist Denise Hinton wrote in a letter to Gary Disbrow of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA) on Monday.
          "Accordingly, FDA revokes the EUA for emergency use of HCQ and CQ to treat COVID-19," Hinton wrote in the letter. "As of the date of this letter, the oral formulations of HCQ and CQ are no longer authorized by FDA to treat COVID-19."
          https://www.cnn.com/webview/world/li...1%2540AdobeOrg


          Also in the news, Trump's predictions that the cases would drop to zero and the pandemic would disappear in the heat of April turn out to be unlikely...
          Advocating a better Edmonton through effective, efficient and economical transit.

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          • Great idea! Only the best ideas! People are saying!!

            Meanwhile, many states, including Texas and Florida are registering their highest numbers of new cases thus far.

            Trump: If COVID-19 testing stops — the US won’t have coronavirus cases anymore

            President Donald Trump came up with his latest idea for how to reduce cases of the coronavirus in the United States: stop testing.

            Speaking at a roundtable on “Fighting for America’s Seniors” on Monday, Trump remarked, “If we stop testing right now, we’d have very few cases, if any.”

            https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/tru...cases-anymore/
            Meanwhile in Texas...

            ​​​​​​Several Dallas Cowboys and Houston Texans players test positive for coronavirus

            Last month, Sills told NFL.com that as other sports leagues determine how to return, football has its specific challenges because "football and physical distancing are not compatible."
            "We fully expect we will have positive cases that will arise," Sills told NFL.com at the time.

            ​​​​​​https://www.cnn.com/2020/06/15/us/da...rnd/index.html

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            • Originally posted by kkozoriz View Post
              Open the economy and people will die. Simple as that. The question is, how many do they see as acceptable losses? Remember, when we see confirmed cases, they could have been walking around for up to two weeks before showing symptoms.


              ​​​​​​CDC Document Shows Just How Badly the U.S. Is Handling Coronavirus Compared to Other Countries

              ​​​​​​Leaked CDC documents dated June 9 that were obtained and published by Yahoo News this week show the U.S. is still exhibiting astronomical increases in new cases of the virus, doing far worse to contain it than the other nine nations who have experienced the highest number of total cases: Brazil, Russia, the United Kingdom, India, Spain, Italy, Peru, Germany, and Iran. The CDC document shows that the U.S. experienced an estimated 36.5% uptick in confirmed daily cases, which is far above any of the other countries. (The closest is Peru, which saw a 4.46% increase in confirmed daily cases.)

              Another document from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, also from June 9, confirmed the 36.5% statistic, according to Yahoo News. The FEMA document also shows that the rolling average of daily deaths in the U.S. is beginning to exceed 1,000 per day.

              What source is that table from? According to CDC.gov the number of new cases in the USA on June 9 was 17,376. The three previous days were higher so the percentage change would actually be lower not an increase of 36.46%.

              According to worldometers US daily new cases are slowly trending down while US daily deaths arrears trending down at a significantly greater rate than new cases.

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              • Sorry, forgot the link. It wouldn't be on the website because it was a leaked, internal documant. Legend of the image:


                A leaked document, dated June 9, from the CDC showing an estimated 36.46 per cent rise in the number of new daily cases across the U.S. (Screenshot: Centres for Disease Control and Prevention, Yahoo News)

                https://www.gizmodo.com.au/2020/06/c...her-countries/

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                • Some good news on the treatment front: https://www.bbc.com/news/health-5306...JYQ5ULmSTiRb4c

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                  • Edmonton with 190 active cases is rapidly catching up to Calgary which is down to 208 active cases of COVID-19.

                    More worrisome there are two new outbreaks in Edmonton long term care centres (Capital Care Grandview, Miller Crossing Care Centre), as well as at the Good Samaritan Westpark Group Home.

                    https://www.alberta.ca/covid-19-alberta-data.aspx

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                    • I have been out and about at various times throughout the city, and I have to say I am not impressed that people aren't wearing masks much in: Loblaw's Brewery District, London Drugs 104 Ave, Walmart Westmount and Capilano, Canadian Tire 118 Ave, Italian Centre downtown, and a pile of other shops. Given that wearing a mask is SO TRIVIALLY EASY TO DO for most people (ya, ya, there are a few exceptions) it's beyond excusable. I'm definitely not going to go "be normal" any time soon. Sorry peoples of Edmonton, if you don't smarten up, the virus will show you shy you should.

                      To the new cases in care centres: my Dad was in a Good Sam centre and died just before Christmas. Around March my mom, fully unprompted, offered that it was good that he died before Covid came along, given what she had seen in that place the five years he was there.
                      I am in no way entitled to your opinion...

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                        • Keep the border closed.



                          https://twitter.com/MaxCRoser/status...0%2Fframe.html

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                          • officially “recovering” from COVID-19 may be just the beginning of lifelong health complications.

                            http://www.timesofisrael.com/recover...tive-problems/

                            the first comprehensive series of autopsies on COVID-19 deaths seems to confirm that it is a blood borne illness and not simply a respiratory illness like the flu or influenza.

                            http://medicalxpress.com/news/2020-0...s-disease.html
                            Last edited by kcantor; 22-06-2020, 08:42 PM.
                            "If you did not want much, there was plenty." Harper Lee

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                            • Why is Canadian mortality 1/3 higher than that of the U.S.?

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                              • ^ I think the mortality rate in Canada is higher than the US because a higher percentage of deaths in Canada were among the elderly especially those living in long term care homes. 95% of COVID deaths in Canada are in Quebec (60%) and Ontario (35%). Over 80% of those deaths were in substandard seniors care homes where many residents live four to a room making physical distancing almost impossible and allowing the disease to spread like wildfire.

                                The mortality rate (deaths/confirmed cases) seems to be on the decline in both Canada and the US. That's because we're finally doing a better job protecting those most likely to die from COVID (e.g. elderly seniors) while the number of new confirmed cases are mostly in younger people who are less likely to die from it.

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