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  • Come now, anyone with half a brain and an ounce of morals knew a long time ago that the bunch that today calls themselves "conservatives" are degenerates and liars, while the people who vote for them are perverts or more likely fools.

    Without exception.

    But that's 40% in Canada, 47% in English Canada, and 67% in this province.

    And nothing anyone says will alter that fact.

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    • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
      The headline is wrong, all the Conservatives have said is they don't want to announce yet which government departments will be facing significant cuts:

      Finance Minister Jim Flaherty says he needs time to consult economists and to draft a clear plan to deliver the extra savings Prime Minister Harper promised during the election campaign.

      “We will do the strategic and operating review and we will book [those savings] once the review is done. That will get us to balance a year earlier, but is not part of the upcoming budget,” Chisholm Pothier, Mr. Flaherty’s spokesperson, said on Wednesday.
      But whatever, a 10 minute "point" that supposedly shows a backtrack is more exciting than waiting three or four years and seeing how they do. No doubt when they announce these cuts, the same posters complaining about the deficit will then be the same ones complaining about the cuts...
      The Harper Cons were in government for five years and only now they are reviewing department spending?

      Harper is now governing with a majority. If he doesn't fulfill his economic promises he will have no excuses and no one to blame.

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      • ^what makes you think they were 100% sure of a majority? Under a minority government, they had no control over the spending, so why would they have planned government department cuts that they had no power to implement?

        The process is pretty simple now, but it will take 6 months or so at a minimun to implement. Most minister's will be given a % number of how much spending his/her department must try to cut (there will be some Conservative priority exceptions, like the military / health). Ministers who do well at this or exceed the target (i.e. are able to overcome the internal civil service burecrats who will resist it), will in the future be in line for promotion to better ministries. Ministers who get rolled over, will ultimatley lose their cabinet positions.

        Based on this the next budget will be prepared showing where the cuts are coming from.
        Last edited by moahunter; 12-05-2011, 10:23 AM.

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        • Originally posted by moahunter View Post
          ^what makes you think they were 100% sure of a majority? Under a minority government, they had no control over the spending, so why would they have planned government department cuts that they had no power to implement?
          do you actually... critically... follow politics? Take a cue from this linked article that speaks to the strategic review that brought out the planned cuts that were apart of the pre-election budget... you know, the Conservative budget under a minority government!

          Now here’s the thing: the Conservatives have already undergone a strategic review, and the results are included in the pre-election budget. This is money the Conservatives have already decided to cut. The savings come to $194.5 million for 2011-12, $796.4 million for 2012-13, and $1.57 billion for 2013-2014. (Most of those savings come from slowing growth in military spending, $525 million below the original budget in 2012-13 and 1 billion in the year after.)

          So that means the Conservatives have already cut about $200 million this year, $270 million next year and $570 million the year after, using techniques that they hope will land them up to seven times as much savings in a year, not far down the road.

          Wow. What have they been cutting?

          I couldn’t get any explanation for that at the budget lockup. The descriptions of the cuts in the budget are perfectly opaque — $14 million at the Atlantic Canada Opportunities Agency for “Improving use of internal resources,” $16 million at Quebec Economic Development for “aligning funding with program demand,” and a whopping $190 million at Human Resources for “Improving alignment of program funding with actual needs.”

          When I went to the civil servants who were locked in with reporters and copies of the budget to ask, they had no explanation for any of these cuts. “The departments have been informed of the results of the strategic review today,” one official told me. “You’ll have to ask them.”
          Plain and simple: these magical, self-proclaimed, fiscal conservative wizards are making it up on the fly. Harper's an economist... don't ya know!

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          • Originally posted by alex69 View Post
            Come now, anyone with half a brain and an ounce of morals knew a long time ago that the bunch that today calls themselves "conservatives" are degenerates and liars, while the people who vote for them are perverts or more likely fools.

            Without exception.
            Stop posting.

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            • Originally posted by North Guy66 View Post
              Harper is now governing with a majority. If he doesn't fulfill his economic promises he will have no excuses and no one to blame.
              Exactly. They will lose their majority if they don't do what they were elected to, and they know that. They have 4 years to make Canada happy with them.

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              • I wonder what Harper's reaction would be if Alberta implemented the reccomendations in the "firewall letter"?

                "And then there was the famous "firewall" letter, published in the National Post in January of 2001. Fed up with what he called Chrétien's attempt to marginalize Alberta, Harper and five like-minded friends wrote an open letter to Alberta Premier Ralph Klein, telling him the province should start collecting its own taxes, funding its own health care system, building its own pension plan. In short, he said Albertans should set up a "firewall" around their province. "

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                • ^I think that was a reaction to the highly federalist government of the time. If you look at what the Conservatives have done, while there are some exceptions (like the national securities register), they generally are in favour of not medling in the provinces (for example, no national daycare program).

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                  • Originally posted by alex69 View Post
                    Come now, anyone with half a brain and an ounce of morals knew a long time ago that the bunch that today calls themselves "conservatives" are {Admin edit - quote shortened}
                    Without exception.

                    But that's 40% in Canada, 47% in English Canada, and 67% in this province.

                    And nothing anyone says will alter that fact.
                    Tone the insults down.
                    Ow

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