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  • 'Own The Podium" dream is over

    VANCOUVER, B.C. - Canada is raising the white flag on Own The Podium.
    The head of the Canadian Olympic Committee told a media briefing Monday that Canada won't finish first in the medal count at the Vancouver Games.

    http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/bre...med=y#comments
    Noah's ark was built by volunteers...... The Titanic was built by professionals.

  • #2
    Well, that was a realistic goal (to beat the Americans, in medal count).

    Aside from the huge population difference, there is the massive mental difference. Canadians are mentally more fragile. American favourites normally win, whereas Canada supports athletes who are just weak when it comes to the biggest event (e.g. Weatherspoon).

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    • #3
      Originally posted by moahunter View Post
      Well, that was a realistic goal (to beat the Americans, in medal count).

      Aside from the huge population difference, there is the massive mental difference. Canadians are mentally more fragile. American favourites normally win, whereas Canada supports athletes who are just weak when it comes to the biggest event (e.g. Weatherspoon).

      It was extremely realistic, considering the past couple olympics and how close we were to them...

      From another forum, I personally didn't realize that we were so equal....

      "It was entirely realistic for us to beat the US in the medal count, or at least be close to them. They edged us 25-24 in Turin. We finished ahead of them in Nagano, and tied them in Lillehammer. When they hosted in Salt Lake, they had by far their best Olympics and finished well ahead of us. Of course now that it's our turn to host and our big advantage, we crap the bed and are put completely to shame by them."
      Last edited by sdimedru; 22-02-2010, 11:29 AM.
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      • #4
        It was never realistic. It's as if we assumed that we were the only country in the world that was attempting to achieve greater victory vs previous years. So many other countries have taken medals that have historically accomplished very little (S. Korea) and of course, the US is and always will be a dominant player, if not purely because of their similar wealth, population, and better logistics.

        On a per capita basis and considering how spread out we are (and thus, training inefficiencies), I think we've done amazing.

        As more countries put money into their sports programs we'll face steeper competition, no if's or and's about it.
        "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

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        • #5
          Own teh podium is just as silly as the "greatest city in the greatest province in teh greatest country in the world" statement. Sure, it is warm and fuzzy. Sure, it is a goal to aspire to.

          But once you throw down the gauntlet...you'd better be ready to defend because the pig pile will commence before you can sa...*crush*...
          President and CEO - Airshow.

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          • #6
            I don't see the problem. Our reach should exceed our grasp, rather than settling for "good enuff".
            “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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            • #7
              I don't see a problem either. Aim high. From all reports it's been a great program, and results from these kinds of things can take years, and sometimes generations.

              I'm disappointed, but not surprised, at the utterly negative, defeatist attitudes displayed by some online commenters (not the ones here - except one in particular). It's loser attitudes like those ones that this program is designed to overcome.

              At the end of the day, we have a bunch of Canadian athletes doing their best, and competing on relatively equal footing with the best in the world. I'm proud of all of them, regardless of how they've ultimately finished in these Olympics.

              And, of course, we have the usual bunch sitting on their couches and complaining. Maybe if some of those whiners ever got off their butt and tried to compete in anything other than sarcasm and whining, they might develop an appreciation for all that goes into trying to win a medal, or even making it to the games. That's unlikely to happen, because they prefer the easy way out. It's easiest to sit back and criticise, so that's what they'll do, whether it's the Olympics, or healthcare.

              Go Canada! 100% behind our athletes and coaches!
              aka Jim Good; "The sooner you fall behind, the more time you have to catch up." - Steven Wright

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              • #8
                There is Aim High...and there is "we're gonna crush this"...if you say something like that...prepare to back it up...it is as simple as that...if you miss...prepare for the ribbing...

                A goal of Canada getting MULTIPLE golds at home...attainable, and attained...

                A goal of being well in contention for a top 3 finish in the medal haul...a great stretch goal.

                Your 5X stretch could be to "Own the Podium"...you would have to be under a rock to not think that US, Germany, and others weren't coming with their "A" game considering many of the world standings...

                Personally, I think the Canadian team has NOTHING to hang their heads in shame about. The US spends untold billions...Germany and others have more people to pick from...we are doing AWESOME...
                President and CEO - Airshow.

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                • #9
                  pwned the podium! Such a pompous brash statement; so, so... so American!

                  who needs the chest thumping, fists clenched, we're #1, we're #1, we're #1 juvenile displays? What's wrong with a reserved confident, somewhat humble display of prowess? After all... we are Canadian!

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                    Well, that was a realistic goal (to beat the Americans, in medal count).

                    Aside from the huge population difference, there is the massive mental difference. Canadians are mentally more fragile. American favourites normally win, whereas Canada supports athletes who are just weak when it comes to the biggest event (e.g. Weatherspoon).
                    Who the **** is Weatherspoon?? Is he at all related to Jeremy Wotherspoon? You know, the most successful male skater in World Cup history with fourty-some careeer victories?

                    So yeah, I guess you could say that Canada's athletes are 'choking' on the biggest stage, but its not like the increased funding isn't paying dividends. Just look at the mens alpine team for instance; they're the most successful group of Canadian skiiers since the fabled 'Crazy Canucks'. It sucks that they failed to podium (Guay still managed two respectable top-five finishes), but all things considered, I still think the program is a success.

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                    • #11
                      ^^That's right, it doesn't matter if our athletes perform at their peak, try hard or win. All that matters, is that they are "nice".

                      On the spoon guy, nobody remembers world cup winners, or can even spell their names, but everyone remembers Olympic champions. He just keeps failing when it matters, but keep giving him money to be nice.
                      Last edited by moahunter; 22-02-2010, 01:18 PM.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Jeff View Post
                        pwned the podium! Such a pompous brash statement; so, so... so American!

                        who needs the chest thumping, fists clenched, we're #1, we're #1, we're #1 juvenile displays? What's wrong with a reserved confident, somewhat humble display of prowess? After all... we are Canadian!
                        We WERE Canadian....
                        Mayor Mandel is a immature childish man

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                        • #13
                          Congratulations to all the Olympic team. Going for gold is an honorable pursuit. I grew up when this country seemed content with going for bronze. I like that we are now winning gold and particularly , when we do so at at home. Lets face it we used to lack confidence in the international realm and now we are competitive.

                          Winning is not everything. But knowing as nation that you CAN win is Important.

                          Now if we can only do something with this Canadian propensity for self flagellation....

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by moahunter View Post
                            ^^That's right, it doesn't matter if our athletes perform at their peak, try hard or win. All that matters, is that they are "nice".

                            On the spoon guy, nobody remembers world cup winners, or can even spell their names, but everyone remembers Olympic champions. He just keeps failing when it matters, but keep giving him money to be nice.
                            Or money for being one of the best, (if not the best) athletes in his sport, irregardless of Olympic success?

                            But it's not like I'd expect anything else from the average Canadian wintersports 'fan': tuning in once every four years to beat their chest, wave their flag, and then ***** and complain when Canada puts in an underwhelming (yet still respectable) showing in the final medals count.... Only to ignore our athlestes for another 4 years as they return to their cave to hibernate utill the next winter games.

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                            • #15
                              ^our athletes need to get harder. We need to learn from the Americans who convert far more of their top athletes into gold medals. This is elite sports, "trying hard" or coming second, just isn't good enough.

                              That the long track speed skating facility will be pulled down after the Olympics (would have been a fantastic opportunity to build up a new base if kids skating from the population of Vancouver), is symptomatic of the lack of care about these sports. The mediocre performances reflect that, but they also reflect poor organization and poor spending, when athletes under-perform when the pressure is on. All credit to those who did achieve, but it is very disappointing to see so many failures.
                              Last edited by moahunter; 22-02-2010, 02:01 PM.

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