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    Default New Edmonton Retail

    With the Lulu Lemon explosion downtown, any requests for new Downtown or Edmonton Metro retail?
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    At this time, Lululemon is not looking into downtown Edmonton. But perhaps after the great sale they had this past weekend they might change their mind.

    I think we need:
    Banana Republic
    Browns (not in Holts)
    Mexx
    10,000 sq ft hardware store (Home Hardware perhaps?)
    Small Grocery...John Day building on 104st?
    Another lounge like Lux
    Modern home accessories & furnishings...so many lofts/condos, no furniture..come on Edmonton.
    Hotel like the Metterra or Aloft by Starwood


    We don't need:
    Another steak house!
    Big box stores

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    good start troy...what should be downtown or what i would like to see:

    Clothing:

    -H&M
    -banana republic
    -lulu lemon
    -running room


    Housewares:

    -Caban
    -Urban Barn

    restaurants:

    -moxies
    -sammy j peppers
    -another breakfast place
    -another smallish sushi place
    -a good korean restaurant
    -a good chinese restaurant
    -a place for PHO that you can walk to
    -bad *** jacks on jasper

    Nightlife:

    -another fluid or two
    -another bank bar
    -a good wine and tapa bar


    Misc:

    -homedepot
    -another grocery store, sobeys?
    -more movie rental places

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    ANOTHER NON-DENNY'S BERAKFAST PLACE that is open on a SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    and for those who know vancouver....."DE DUTCH"

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    Apparently Hudsons is opening a downtown location, but in Oliver Square. Too bad it wasnt on Jasper

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    in oliver square...are you kidding me...jasper is where its at...im sorry but that is really sad.

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    That is too bad about Hudsons. And another Lux-type lounge would be great.

    By the way if you want good pub food, check out the Rose and Crown (yes it has reopened and they cleaned it up).

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    I have heard a couple rumours of a Belgo pub (Belgian style pub from Paul Vickers group) coming to Edmonton (likely downtown) soon. They just opened one it Calgary - very cool place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JimR
    That is too bad about Hudsons. And another Lux-type lounge would be great.

    By the way if you want good pub food, check out the Rose and Crown (yes it has reopened and they cleaned it up).
    I go there often...much improved....
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyanS
    I have heard a couple rumours of a Belgo pub (Belgian style pub from Paul Vickers group) coming to Edmonton (likely downtown) soon. They just opened one it Calgary - very cool place.
    They had a flyer for this pub inside the program at the Bill Clinton event last night. It looks like it's coming to Edmonton soon, but it didn't say when or where it will be located.

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    i really hope BELGO is either near rice howard or near 109.

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    We also need a non-tim's coffee place open until 1am on the weekends. Hello Starbucks...why aren't you open like on Whyte?

    Anyone want to start a petition to get Starbucks open later on weekends?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TroyD
    We also need a non-tim's coffee place open until 1am on the weekends. Hello Starbucks...why aren't you open like on Whyte?

    Anyone want to start a petition to get Starbucks open later on weekends?

    well im not sure of the times, but the new java express is open into the evenings now, but yes...starbucks on 109 and jasper should both be open till 12.

    i know the new omega one is open till 10pm

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
    Quote Originally Posted by TroyD
    We also need a non-tim's coffee place open until 1am on the weekends. Hello Starbucks...why aren't you open like on Whyte?

    Anyone want to start a petition to get Starbucks open later on weekends?

    well im not sure of the times, but the new java express is open into the evenings now, but yes...starbucks on 109 and jasper should both be open till 12.

    i know the new omega one is open till 10pm
    When you think about it 10pm is early on a Friday/Saturday. Perhaps it's just me and my g/f but we find ourselves downtown at like midnight or 1am on Fri/Sat and would like somewhere else other than Tim's in COmmerce. Mind you, all the freaks go there, so that's free entertainment in itself....lol.

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    The Starbucks on Jasper and 1st used to close at 9pm but I think they bumped that up to 10pm. I'm not entirely sure as I don't pay much attention. Starbucks is good for their mixed drinks, etc, but I really don't like their coffee.

    Along the same lines, I've noticed that Tim's and 2nd cup are significantly busier throughout their operational hours these days downtown. Wonderful to see although a bit annoying when I was hoping for a quick coffee run before heading to choir Saturday mornings at 9am
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    The Tims in the Pedway and at Commerce are stupid busy at all times of the day. Im sure they could easily have another location somewhere in the mall and still have the same lines.

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    They should put a timmies at jasper and 103st NWC

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
    Quote Originally Posted by TroyD
    We also need a non-tim's coffee place open until 1am on the weekends. Hello Starbucks...why aren't you open like on Whyte?

    Anyone want to start a petition to get Starbucks open later on weekends?

    well im not sure of the times, but the new java express is open into the evenings now, but yes...starbucks on 109 and jasper should both be open till 12.

    i know the new omega one is open till 10pm
    The new Java Express is great. I really hope it does well and I'm sure it will given its street presence on Jasper.

    I'd also love to see Starbucks stay open later. However, I don't think we'll see that until foot traffic in that area intensifies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
    They should put a timmies at jasper and 103st NWC
    Isn't there a Tim Horton's in Commerce Place, and another in the BDC building a couple blocks down?

    Quote Originally Posted by TroyD
    We also need a non-tim's coffee place open until 1am on the weekends. Hello Starbucks...why aren't you open like on Whyte?

    Anyone want to start a petition to get Starbucks open later on weekends?
    I believe Naked on Jasper, a café at 10354 Jasper Ave, is open either quite late, or I used to hear it may have been open 24-hours. There is also that Behomia Cybercafé on Jasper, next to Stonehouse. It's not as a nice as a Starbucks, but if you're looking for something open a bit later it might do the trick.

    I agree, I'd personally love to see more cafés downtown or Oliver open later than 9:00 or 10:00, but I don't think there is the foot traffic to warrant the risk yet by business owners.

    When the business I am currently working on the designs for opens later this year, perhaps that establishment can satiate some of your late-night espresso and wine-drinking needs!

    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS
    ANOTHER NON-DENNY'S BERAKFAST PLACE that is open on a SUNDAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    We go to Blue Plate on Sunday's for brunch. Most places are open for brunch, and Café Select even does Saturdays, I believe. Sometimes we head into Oliver to go to Urban Diner and the such. Even Culina is open, albeit not downtown, so most places will, in fact, be open for brunch. I'm not sure about Lux or Four Rooms, though.

    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
    what i would like to see:

    restaurants:

    -moxies
    -sammy j peppers
    -another breakfast place
    -another smallish sushi place
    -a good korean restaurant
    -a good chinese restaurant
    -a place for PHO that you can walk to
    -bad *** jacks on jasper

    Nightlife:

    -another fluid or two
    -another bank bar
    -a good wine and tapa bar

    Misc:

    -homedepot
    -another grocery store, sobeys?
    -more movie rental places
    For sushi, there is Kyoto, Mikado, Eastbound, and Tokyo Express (Oliver). Perhaps some in-mall ones for business people, too, I am not familiar with. Pho would be nice, but I don't know how fast good Korean and Chinese restaurants are willing to spill into downtown when you can get some of the best stuff not even 3–4 blocks away in Chinatown, like at Tau Bay.

    They're also apparently throwing up a big, ugly Superstore between MacEwan and the casino.

    Alternative Video is too far east, I think, and Blockbuster is tucked in Oliver there. I would absolutely love to see a Movie Studio go in somewhere.

    The Bank seems to have its market, so expand and diversify. Don't wanna create all-the-sameness along Jasper like how Whyte is now with its top-forty bars. I'd personally like to see downtown steer away from the thug poseur wannabe crowd that befell The Standard. Fluid, from what I know, may be struggling financially, so it doesn't have the market. Fortunately, it's part of the same group behind Filthy McNasty's and The Globe. Halo is down the street, with Red Star, and Halo is busy on the weekends, as is Victory Lounge, which is also nearby.

    For lunches, has anyone tried out Soul Soup, on Rice Howard? Owners as Culina and Halo, doing an afternoon lunch-rush soup kitchen. It's supposed to be excellent.

    Personally, I'd like to see businesses like this downtown:

    Da·De·O, Movie Studio, Nokomis, something like a more commercially oriented int'l style gallery like Cube in Calgary, Listen and Freecloud I can still drive to, and just more storefronts in all those bloody towers so I feel warranted actually walking the streets of downtown, but more Edmonton fundamentals would be nice, like a Divine or Decadence, too, somewhere near MacEwan. A hardware store would be nice, but I could see that being tucked away more in Oliver or behind 104th Ave.

    More housewares could definitely be used, though I adore The Artworks and Populuxe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    Isn't there a Tim Horton's in Commerce Place, and another in the BDC building a couple blocks down?
    Yep. I'd agree another at 103rd may be a bit too many Tims.



    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    I believe Naked on Jasper, a café at 10354 Jasper Ave, is open either quite late, or I used to hear it may have been open 24-hours. There is also that Behomia Cybercafé on Jasper, next to Stonehouse. It's not as a nice as a Starbucks, but if you're looking for something open a bit later it might do the trick.
    That depends on what one is looking for. Naked is a very different environment than a typical coffee house. It's more internet cafe. As for the Behomia, that is really quite far away for downtown. Oliver residents could go there but it means hoping on the bus for me on a 30 minute walk.


    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    We go to Blue Plate on Sunday's for brunch. Most places are open for brunch, and Café Select even does Saturdays, I believe. Sometimes we head into Oliver to go to Urban Diner and the such. Even Culina is open, albeit not downtown, so most places will, in fact, be open for brunch. I'm not sure about Lux or Four Rooms, though.
    I think you slightly missed Richard's point That comment came about from him and I trying to find a breakfast place because the Silk Hat is closed on Sundays. Blue Plate is an excelent suggestion but there is very little else around d/t for breadfast on Sundays. Lux and Four Rooms are in a completely different league than the breakfast crowd. I don't want to pay 10 dollars for half an egg on a fancy piece of toast

    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    For sushi, there is Kyoto, Mikado, Eastbound, and Tokyo Express (Oliver).
    Again, those are quite far away if you're living/buming around in the Financial District. Those would take a trip to get to. Something closer in the core would be great...I for one really don't consider Oliver Square part of d/t as it's a little out of the way from the CBD and Jasper in general.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    They're also apparently throwing up a big, ugly Superstore between MacEwan and the casino.
    The Superstore would go on the corner of 1st street and 4th where the current casino is. I don't think we can comment on it's appearance until a final design is presented to the community.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    I'd personally like to see downtown steer away from the thug poseur wannabe crowd that befell The Standard. Fluid, from what I know, may be struggling financially, so it doesn't have the market.
    Amen and it seems to be happening. The places d/t really cater to a more mature and mellow crowd overall...thank heavens.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fell
    For lunches, has anyone tried out Soul Soup, on Rice Howard?
    Interesting, but nothing to warrant the price they charge for the soup. I most likely won't go back.
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    Ahh! Thanks, good replies!


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    From another thread...DOWNTOWN specific....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey
    With more people living and working downtown, more services are needed. And certain ones may help bring more people from the burbs.

    Grocery store:
    The Edmonton Journal mentioned plans for a sidewalk-friendly Sobey's in what used to be the Cecil. With all the condo developments going up on 104 St and near the river valley, people need a grocery store within a walking distance. Plus it will help bring more people to the farmer's market in the summer. The only glitch there is the delivery access in the rear, so I hope that is resolved. I would rather see that than some monstrous Superstore big-box by the Baccarat Casino.

    Shoe shiners:
    With more and more guys wearing suits again, the financial core needs a shoe shining service, where you sit there and read the paper while some old man polishes your dress shoes for a blue note. A great place for one is the 2nd floor of Manulife. Right now, the only place one can get a shoe shine is the Board Room in Commerce Place, but I don't know if they offer that as a stand-alone service.

    Movie theatres:
    I mentioned it before in other threads, but it bears repeating. Can Cineplex, Empire, Famous Players (can't remember who bought who) be persuaded to build a state-of-the-art movie theatre in the same league as a Silver City or SEC in the warehouse district or near Churchill Square? Or how about in Downtown East to help kick-start the development there?

    More high-end stores:
    Holt Renfrew and Henry Singer are there and I find them getting busier than before. Why can't Derks move there from their isolated spot off east Whyte? Armani Exchange or other stores of that calibre which are currently in WEM? There's plenty of spaces to plug up in City Centre mall and on the high-pedestrian streets nearby. And more people walking around with major coin to burn.

    More bookstores, more record stores:
    Not many choices in downtown, to be honest. Would a large-scale multi-floor HMV or Virgin Records be a success here? The Hop's Handbag place would be perfect! A Chapters/Indigo bookstore would be OK as long as it doesn't kill Audrey's.

    Anything else?
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    A drug store that is open late around 104 street.

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    Thanks, Richie!
    Just a few more thoughts:

    A new Second Cup should open in the government office area, say around 100 Ave and 107 St. A new Starbucks just opened on 105 St and 99 Ave and plan to expand into the government area.

    Retail not needed in downtown:
    - Money Mart and other quickie-loan joints
    - more hole-in-the-wall donair/pizza pits, we have enough of them
    - more Timmy Hos and Mikey D's - ditto
    - comic book stores with no shelves, just thousands of books piled up on the floor (y'all know which one I'm talking about )

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    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS
    From another thread...DOWNTOWN specific....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey
    With more people living and working downtown, more services are needed. And certain ones may help bring more people from the burbs.


    More high-end stores:
    Holt Renfrew and Henry Singer are there and I find them getting busier than before. Why can't Derks move there from their isolated spot off east Whyte? Armani Exchange or other stores of that calibre which are currently in WEM? There's plenty of spaces to plug up in City Centre mall and on the high-pedestrian streets nearby. And more people walking around with major coin to burn.
    Edmonton just isn't a high-end city. Rosen pulled its downtown location years ago. Too many low-paid gov't workers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by murman
    Quote Originally Posted by RichardS
    From another thread...DOWNTOWN specific....

    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey
    With more people living and working downtown, more services are needed. And certain ones may help bring more people from the burbs.


    More high-end stores:
    Holt Renfrew and Henry Singer are there and I find them getting busier than before. Why can't Derks move there from their isolated spot off east Whyte? Armani Exchange or other stores of that calibre which are currently in WEM? There's plenty of spaces to plug up in City Centre mall and on the high-pedestrian streets nearby. And more people walking around with major coin to burn.
    Edmonton just isn't a high-end city. Rosen pulled its downtown location years ago. Too many low-paid gov't workers!

    disposable income is high here....and cost of living low, i know you know this and i know there is a decent market for higher-end goods if they were here, but i agree to some extent as many people prefer the WALMART special over D&G.

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    And like you said, murman, Harry Rosen pulled out at a time when City Centre mall was dead and before E-town started booming again. Times have changed. City Centre and Manulife have quite a few shoppers on weekends, Holt and Singer are doing brisk business. And I would assume that many of the recent downtown dwellers buying the new condos in the last few years have coin to burn.

    Oh, and Rosen is still at WEM, last I checked.

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    Is the Baccarrat Casino closing down or is the grocery store getting built beside it? For some reason my dad just hates that casino. He curses everytime we drive by it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by murman
    Edmonton just isn't a high-end city. Rosen pulled its downtown location years ago. Too many low-paid gov't workers!
    I'll take Singer and Holt over Rosen any day. Every time I go into Rosen I don't get any service unless I'm already dressed to the nine...

    Holt Renfrew is insanely busy these days (as is Singer and most of the mall for that matter). I know Maurice in men's quite well and always inquire as to how business is doing. They've only been getting better and better the past decade.
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    Default more private businesses downtown, less big box establishment

    i agree with the idea for more high end retailers downtown,, clothing, decent resturants etc. Does anyone think the residents of the oliver/dowtown area could use a new, salon and/or spa, not another evenline charles type place, but one that is geared towards better hair & skin health with environmental and socail responsibility? Id love to hear your feedback on this..

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    I get the impression that there are already enough salons and spas out the ying-yang, but if it's a unique concept then take a shot at it and see if it flies. The Board Room is a men's spa that seems to be doing quite well despite initial trepidation.

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    do you know where the board room is? have you ever been there? im thinking there is a young, new clientele that are living in oliver that maybe dont want to go to a nail tech for nails and a separate hair salon. im thinking of a one stop salon and spa that isnt sugar coated with hot stone relaxation massages but instead a reliable beauty studio that educates and uses new environmentally safe products. and try to get the men in there too.

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    The Boardroom is in the main floor of Commerce Place, right next to BearingPoint/KPMG. It is a nice little spot.

    As for an environmentally friendly spa/slaon, why not? Oliver needs a unique set of stores, and I would support anything within walking distance from my apartment in Oliver. I just spent the long weekend doing just that - vacationing in my neighborhood. Bought new dress pants at Dress to Suit, shopped at the Organic Grocer, walked around and ate at local restaurants, and I do need a haircut and a massage...
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    sounds great, commerce place was really scaring me there for a for a bit (more like 5 years). I definatly want to encourage strip malls of private owned business in oliver to give another option to the downtown shopping centers.

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    Stick on Jasper. There will be more than enough retail spaces soon. There is still some space in the Pinnacle Apartment's podium.
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    Quote Originally Posted by turtleinchworm
    do you know where the board room is? have you ever been there? im thinking there is a young, new clientele that are living in oliver that maybe dont want to go to a nail tech for nails and a separate hair salon. im thinking of a one stop salon and spa that isnt sugar coated with hot stone relaxation massages but instead a reliable beauty studio that educates and uses new environmentally safe products. and try to get the men in there too.
    I've been to the Boardroom and I really enjoyed it.

    I think that the downtown / Oliver area would be the best locations for that type of business. Your immediate market is diverse ranging from earthy people to gays to white collar SINKs or DINKs (Single Income No Kids, Dual Income No Kids).

    If you market your product right, you'll do well imo.

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    Default Re: more private businesses downtown, less big box establish

    Quote Originally Posted by turtleinchworm
    i agree with the idea for more high end retailers downtown,, clothing, decent resturants etc. Does anyone think the residents of the oliver/dowtown area could use a new, salon and/or spa, not another evenline charles type place, but one that is geared towards better hair & skin health with environmental and socail responsibility? Id love to hear your feedback on this..
    Actually, Edmonton has more salons per capita than anywhere in Canada. I dunno if that figure incls spas, but I think this city is in the market for a high-end spa. All of the ones I've come across so far have been pretty lame (not a tonne, but I've seen a few as I used to work for the industry). A real spa environment. Not the cheese like I see at Perugia. Yes, expensive venture to do properly but if it's not going to get done remarkably, don't even bother.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
    good start troy...what should be downtown or what i would like to see:

    Clothing:

    -H&M
    -banana republic
    -lulu lemon
    -running room


    Housewares:

    -Caban
    -Urban Barn

    restaurants:

    -moxies
    -sammy j peppers
    -another breakfast place
    -another smallish sushi place
    -a good korean restaurant
    -a good chinese restaurant
    -a place for PHO that you can walk to
    -bad *** jacks on jasper

    Nightlife:

    -another fluid or two
    -another bank bar
    -a good wine and tapa bar


    Misc:

    -homedepot
    -another grocery store, sobeys?
    -more movie rental places
    I don't think you'll see another Banana Republic in Edmonton,especially downtown. There was talk about them going into Southgate.

    Caban is closing at West Ed. So I think they are folding up their tents and heading back to Toronto.
    I'm having people over later to stare at their phones,if you want to drop by

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    YAY!

    Big in Canada: H&M to open 10 more stores: 'Very good reception': Swedish retailer scouting locations in B.C., Alberta
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    Section: Financial Post
    Byline: Hollie Shaw
    Source: Financial Post

    Canada has become a prime expansion opportunity for cheap chic fashion chain H&M, which plans to open up to 10 more stores here this year.

    Based in Sweden, Hennes & Mauritz AB will also expand into Western Canada next near, company officials confirm, and are scouting locations in Vancouver, Calgary and Edmonton.

    The European retailing sensation, an industry benchmark for "fast fashion" -- a model that sees styles progress from designer runways to store shelves within a matter of weeks -- is on a growth tear, opening 16 large stores in Ontario and Quebec since debuting in Canada less than two years ago.

    "Canada is a tremendous market," said Nils Vinge, head of investor relations for Hennes and Mauritz.

    "We've had a very good reception and we're very happy with the development. Canadians seem to like us."

    H&M's ability to offer of-the-moment fashion styles at low prices is a formula many homegrown retailers and department stores find it tough to compete against, industry consultants say.

    "They have a different model from a lot of retailers in terms of bringing more advanced fashion to market inexpensively and being the first to do it," said David Howell, retail consultant and president of Associate Marketing International.

    "They are based in Europe and have a jump on fashion compared to the retailers here, and people don't have high expectations for their product in terms of longevity. People aren't wearing it for much more than one year -- it's a way to stay avant-garde at a very attractive price point."

    Canadian specialty chains that compete with H&M, such as Fairweather, have responded by taking a page out of the Swedish retailer's book by bringing prestigious names to the masses, signing exclusive deals to sell inexpensive clothing lines developed by top fashion designers.

    H&M, whose Canadian stores of 18,000 square feet are often split onto two or more floors, commissioned lines from Karl Lagerfeld in 2004 and Stella McCartney in 2005, and this year is featuring styles by up-and-coming Dutch design house Victor and Rols.

    Fairweather announced a similar but longer-term partnership this spring with New York designer Isaac Mizrahi.

    The news comes as Canadian department stores continue to lose clothing customers to more nimble specialty players.

    At the end of the first quarter, department stores in Canada accounted for 18.7% of total apparel sales in Canada, down from a 20.8% share in 2003, according to market researcher Trendex North America.

    Sales at specialty stores rose during that period to 51.4% from 48.1%.

    H&M posted a 63% rise in Canadian sales for the six-month period ended May 31 compared with the first half of last year, to $410-million krone, (roughly $63-million) as the company opened five new stores.

    The retailer, which operates 1,250 stores in 22 countries, is targeting China as its next major market in 2007.

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    WRT H&M......i wasnt impressed with it in TOR...mind you i had built it up a bit.


    im sure it will end up at WEM....but imagine this in the podium of a new office tower or condo/mixed use
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    I agree, it would also be a great anchor store for a shopping centre

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    I would like to see H&M set up shop somewhere downtown or on Whyte Ave. City Centre seems to have some available retail space. Another good location is the old Vespa dealership in the MacLeod building.

    But I won't be surprised if they end up at WEM or SEC. Or just Calgary.

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    There's no reason why it would end up in Calgary first and/or only:

    Off the top of my head I can name the following stores that we got before Calgary (and as a 23 yr old female, consider me a reliable source)

    1. Forever 21 - First in Canada
    2. Abercrombie - Only location outside of Toronto
    3. Hollister - Ditto
    4. Bebe - Only Alberta location
    5. Urban Outfitters - Only Western Canadian location

    These stores are still only in Edmonton, none have opened in Calgary

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    I would love to see Simons open up here. (simons.ca)

    They'd be fine downtown or in a newly built store on whyte.

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    I heard today that H&M is coming here for sure...and yes, as we all feared it's going into WEM, hooray.

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    So I was looking at where to post this without starting a new thread and derailing another thread. I was thinking of what other businesses would be nice to see come to Canada and to Edmonton. Looking at a couple lists this morning here are some of my further suggestions.

    - In n out Burger
    - White Castle
    - Walgreens
    - Macy's
    - Barne's & Noble
    - Nordstroms
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Given their business model, I doubt we'd ever see In-n-Out here.
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    ^Oh? I know about them, etc... but I don't know what their business model is like?
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    they only use suppliers within a certain range of their operations, it has to be fresh fresh fresh

    I never got the fuss about the place, i didn't really enjoy it, i found five guys to be much better

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    Yeah, In-n-Out only has a few distribution centres and their restaurants have to be located within a certain distance of them because they don't freeze anything at all, ever.

    Here's a story about why they won't be expanding to the East coast of the US anytime soon (written in Dec, 2013):
    http://www.businessinsider.com/why-i...-coast-2013-12
    They're going to park their car over there. You're going to park your car over here. Get it?

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    Yeah, pretty sure the family behind In 'n Out doesn't have expansionist aspirations, either. Having said that, I did take the opportunity to visit a location in L.A. a few months ago and was impressed with their operation. Even my wife, who generally dislikes beef, enjoyed it.

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    I actually don't find anything special with in-n-out. it wasn't bad, but not social. Definitely not something I would ever search out. If it was right there, and I wanted a burger, and there were no other options, then sure.

    I really enjoyed Bare Burger in NYC this spring though and would love to see one of these places open in Edmonton. They offer something relatively unique. It's not super slow but it's not exactly fast food either.

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    Ohhh Whole Foods is coming to #yeg! That should be yummy. 42,000 sq-foot store on Calgary Trail opening Fall 2016
    Hopefully one downtown sometime soon too.

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    Saks OFF 5TH Announces 2nd Edmonton Location


    Saks Fifth Avenue's off-price division Saks OFF 5TH has announced that it will open a second Edmonton location, after announcing a first location less than a month ago. Saks OFF 5TH will open about 25 locations Canada-wide before 2018.

    The second Edmonton Saks OFF 5TH location will open at the Skyview Power Centre in the city's northwest, near the affluent community of St. Albert. The 30,000 square foot store will open in a retail space currently occupied by Home Outfitters, which falls under the same Hudson's Bay Company ownership umbrella as Saks. The Skyview Power Centre Saks OFF 5TH is expected to open in the spring of 2017, in partnership with landlord Triovest Realty Advisors Incorporated.

    Last month, Saks announced that it would open a 31,900 square foot Saks OFF 5TH at Edmonton's South Edmonton Common in September of this year.
    http://www.retail-insider.com/retail...h-2nd-edmonton

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    It is off alright.
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    This whole Saks Canada thing is starting to feel very HBCish for some reason.

    Very 'decision by committee', not very 'vision driven.'
    Let's make Edmonton better.

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