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    Quote Originally Posted by seamusmcduffs View Post
    The irony of "Small government" conservatives loving this is amazing. The Municipal Government Act is there for a reason, so the provincial government doesn't have to deal with running our towns and cities. The provincial government stepping into demand a city be run a certain way is definition "big government".

    If the city thinks they have too many councillors they can vote in a council and mayor who vow to reduce the number. It's not the provinces business to decide this for them.
    I’m not so sure about that. The province has some strict municipal borrowing controls in order to reduce risk. A city that takes on too much risk could expect the province to step in and force change.

    The issue here though wasn’t the province cutting the positions it was the timing. Ford could have said that the reductions would take place come the next election. The savings are paltry relative to the other spending levels at a city. It’s all just optics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    A judge is basically a semiretired lawyer. They know how to keep their friends in the legal business in the money. Itís all about pocket padding after all.
    proving you donít really understand either role...
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
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    Ford is right,he was elected, the judge was not.
    Yeah those are the facts. However, just because he’s been elected, he can’t go out and murder someone or start selling illegal drugs can he?
    Um, no, no he can't..but he can save the taxpayers money, and THAT was what he was elected to do

    The judge that stopped energy east, was the same judge that stopped the pipeline to BC, and we aren't going to get anywhere until Kenney comes in, watch that space!
    what fueled transcanada’s cancelation wasn’t a judge’s decision and it wasn’t the judge that passed the laws/made the rules. that decision was as much a message to the politicians about the laws they enact and their consequences as it was to transcanada. transcanada listened, our politicians not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
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    A judge is basically a semiretired lawyer. They know how to keep their friends in the legal business in the money. Itís all about pocket padding after all.
    proving you donít really understand either role...
    I knew quite a few lawyers that became judges, a couple are still judges. I wouldn't trust them to judge a dog show. But that's a very long story.
    I don't hold them in very high regard, knowing how they lived out of the courtroom. They can be bias , just like anyone else as well, and they often are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
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    Ford is right,he was elected, the judge was not.
    Yeah those are the facts. However, just because heís been elected, he canít go out and murder someone or start selling illegal drugs can he?
    Um, no, no he can't..but he can save the taxpayers money, and THAT was what he was elected to do

    The judge that stopped energy east, was the same judge that stopped the pipeline to BC, and we aren't going to get anywhere until Kenney comes in, watch that space!
    what fueled transcanadaís cancelation wasnít a judgeís decision and it wasnít the judge that passed the laws/made the rules. that decision was as much a message to the politicians about the laws they enact and their consequences as it was to transcanada.
    You keep telling yourself that..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Oh man, someone really needs to stop getting all their info from the Facebook groups like the "Canadian Conservative News Network"... It's full of misinformation very similar to what HL keeps bringing here without any regard to whether its true or factual.
    Huh? WTF are you yapping about??
    Your constant repeating of misinformation, and fake news started up by fear mongering groups like that call themselves 'Canadian Conservative News Network'

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Ford is right,he was elected, the judge was not.
    Yeah those are the facts. However, just because he’s been elected, he can’t go out and murder someone or start selling illegal drugs can he?
    Um, no, no he can't..but he can save the taxpayers money, and THAT was what he was elected to do

    The judge that stopped energy east, was the same judge that stopped the pipeline to BC, and we aren't going to get anywhere until Kenney comes in, watch that space!
    what fueled transcanada’s cancelation wasn’t a judge’s decision and it wasn’t the judge that passed the laws/made the rules. that decision was as much a message to the politicians about the laws they enact and their consequences as it was to transcanada.
    You keep telling yourself that..!
    looks like facts make baby cry

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
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    Oh man, someone really needs to stop getting all their info from the Facebook groups like the "Canadian Conservative News Network"... It's full of misinformation very similar to what HL keeps bringing here without any regard to whether its true or factual.
    Huh? WTF are you yapping about??
    Your constant repeating of misinformation, and fake news started up by fear mongering groups like that call themselves 'Canadian Conservative News Network'
    Again, WTH are you yapping about. If you go to those sites on FB, come clean..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by H.L. View Post
    Ford is right,he was elected, the judge was not.
    So elected officials should be able to override the charter? Judges aren't elected for a reason, to keep them non-partisan. You want to see what happens when you elect judges, just look south of the border.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
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    Ford is right,he was elected, the judge was not.
    Yeah those are the facts. However, just because heís been elected, he canít go out and murder someone or start selling illegal drugs can he?
    Actually, in Doug's case, it would be re-start selling illegal drugs.


    In the 1980s, anyone wanting to buy hashish had to know where to go. And in central Etobicoke, the wealthy Toronto suburb where Mayor Rob Ford grew up, one of those places was James Gardens. In the evening, the sports cars often wound along Edenbridge Drive, past the gated homes and the lawn-bowling pitches, until they reached the U-shaped parking lot. By nightfall, the public park was a hash drive-thru. One former street dealer, whom we will call "Justin," described the scene as "an assembly line."


    There were usually a number of dealers to choose from, some of them supplied by a mainstay at James Gardens Ė a young man with the hulk-like frame and mop of bright blond hair: Doug Ford. "Most people didn't approach Doug looking for product. You went to the guys that he supplied. Because if Doug didn't know you and trust you, he wouldn't even roll down his window," Justin said.

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ticle12153014/

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    Sounds like Horvath the loser was busy shouting at her crowd last night.
    Wtg Ford! Quebec has used NWS clause, so did Sask, the sky didn't fall. 10 hours discussion on shark fins, is not going to get much of anything done..

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    Yeah, nothing ever gets done.


    In his Sun column, Ford says Toronto has "a bloated and inefficient council where debates can go on for days but no decisions ever get made."


    Even if we grant the premier some licence for hyperbole — he's earned it — this is not an accurate description of how Toronto council operates.


    At their July meeting, their last regular meeting of this council term, councillors adopted 398 items. Of those, 197 were adopted without any debate. Decisions were definitely made.


    And this is pretty typical. Representing a growing city, Toronto council has lots of business to consider, but most of it is effectively dealt with by city staff or at the committee level, and does not require much if any debate at council.


    Bigger, contentious items — like the fate of the eastern section of the Gardiner expressway, or regulations governing Uber or Airbnb — take longer, but that's to be expected.

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toron...tiny-1.4825128

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