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    The Oiler games are like car crashes. Hard to watch but you can't look away.
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    ^ The Oilers usually fare well in SJ, so maybe they co do something meaningful tonight.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    The Oiler games are like car crashes. Hard to watch but you can't look away.
    I've been looking away for years.

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    I doubt she was talking to you then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    The Oiler games are like car crashes. Hard to watch but you can't look away.
    I know what you mean. I've been guilty of thinking "let's see how they lose this one" at the start of the game.
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    ^I keep thinking 'they'll find a way to lose this one'. I'm beginning to think Rogers Place has jinxed the team and usually I don't go in for that kind of thinking.
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    The Oilers have become an incentive to watch other teams play. Last night's Pens @ Stars tilt was a great one: fast, furious, hits, goals, right into the shoot-out.
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    Home town sport's teams are like a marriage. Support them through better or worse.
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    Yes I watch hoping and hoping for things to go good, and when they do I'm very happy. When they lose I'm miserable until the next win. They are making me a hard person to be around these days. lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Home town sport's teams are like a marriage. Support them through better or worse.
    LOL, Mr. Katz REALLY hopes we all believe that.
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    I'm just hoping this season's train wreck is a small spill of milk on the table.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Home town sport's teams are like a marriage. Support them through better or worse.
    Yes. That's the Canadian way. Look at the Leafs with sell outs through all those years. Edmonton and Montreal sell outs through the lean years as well. Canadian cities support their teams no matter what. I see games on TV in the U S cities where the arenas have so many empty seats. Even in Anaheim last nite it looked half empty, although the seats may have been sold. Yet the NHL will expand to any US city but not to Quebec or Hamilton or elsewhere.

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    Sharks score on the first shot. Two nothing 7:21 in. Here we go again. Arena looks full in San Jose.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
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    Home town sport's teams are like a marriage. Support them through better or worse.
    Yes. That's the Canadian way. Look at the Leafs with sell outs through all those years. Edmonton and Montreal sell outs through the lean years as well. Canadian cities support their teams no matter what. I see games on TV in the U S cities where the arenas have so many empty seats. Even in Anaheim last nite it looked half empty, although the seats may have been sold. Yet the NHL will expand to any US city but not to Quebec or Hamilton or elsewhere.
    The NHL needs to change the draft lottery rules.

    It's really bad for the league when 3 teams repeatedly ditch to stockpile a decade's worth of marquee talent.

    Quit rewarding teams for losing. The honour system isn't working. There's no honour, in some cities anyway, and some teams will rig the system with no shame. Do 1 draft lottery with each team having the same chance, then revolve through all the teams so each team gets the same numbers.

    Look at those owners up there at the draft, with their families, smiling away, like they accomplished something. And they did.
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    ^
    You do recall the main reason the Oilers were able to win the McDavid lottery was because the NHL did change the draft lottery procedure.

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    Now that we aquired McDavid let them change it and do what they want. The only first that worked out for us. I like Draisatl too. We can build from there. A good last half to the second period. Oilers score 3 to tie it. Zack for a hat trick tonight?
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    Sharks 6 Oilers 4 A California death trip this was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Guy66 View Post
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    You do recall the main reason the Oilers were able to win the McDavid lottery was because the NHL did change the draft lottery procedure.
    The "Oilers Rule." A tweak that made next to zero difference. The same teams still ditching. Because it pays off, on draft day, if not on the ice. They wouldn't have had any better chance than any other team if teams weren't rewarded for losing.

    The salient point - marquee talent mostly going mostly to 3 teams for a decade isn't good for the league. A team like Columbus would benefit from having a star player to bring in the fans. Canadian teams, and those in traditional hockey markets will sell out anyway.

    The Oilers are nowhere near as bad as Buffalo or Arizona, but that's not saying much. How do you still suck that bad after all those #1s, and other top picks?

    Do you think the Oilers should join the ditch for Dahlen?
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    This team has some serious issues, they showed flashes coming back then as in a lot of times this year as soon as they get a sniff it's brain fart central and they give up a goal. My sons peewee team would know how to prevent. Maroon is lazy, Klefbom looks disinterested, Letestu is in some kind of funK, talbot is below average, even mcdavid as good as he is sometimes looks lackadaisical out there.

    There seems to be little passion, drive, the want to win, passes are weak, off target

    I don't know but there is a total lack of passion and drive in this team, quite shocking to think this almost identical team last year had 103 points.

    So frustrating to be a fan right now

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    Todd Mclellan should resign for his own health. He hasn't looked healthy this year, but looked awful in the post game - like someone going through chemo or something. This season is killing him.
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    Watching games like that is like watching a horror movies. When the scores are real close half the time I'm covering my eyes as the suspense is to much.
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    34 games Oilers let in the first goal. According to in game commentary, that's almost impossible to come back from. The Oilers did that only 9 times this season.

    Never mind moving the coach. It's not him. The Oilers need a better goal tender and removing some of the near 30 and 30 guys. Strome was just awful.
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    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?

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    Quote Originally Posted by North Guy66 View Post
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    You do recall the main reason the Oilers were able to win the McDavid lottery was because the NHL did change the draft lottery procedure.
    The statement as I inferred it meant the rule didn't change enough. The worst 5 teams still have a lotto and pretty good picks as "reward" for essentially being lousy.

    I get that pro sports leagues want some kind of parity and that socialist drafts schemes and salary caps help control against differentiation but the power of suck is strong and feeble organizations still manage to fold. Case in point with the Oilers is they hire mediocre coaches and managers that douse even the fortunes of McD, Draisaitl, Talbot Nurse etc. It takes particular incompetence to parlay cores like this to obscurity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    Managerial incompetence was discerned already through Chia's offseason bodies of work. Transforming a team once loaded with star winger talent to one that has Maroon and Lucic and nothing much else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    If your making statements like it's the owners fault it would be good if you could also give us some insight as to why it is the owners fault?. If you don't think the owner spends enough time as to how the team is run, how the team is picked, do you think he should be more hands on etc. say so. My thoughts are Katz hires people to do that. He has other business interests apart from the Oilers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
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    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    If your making statements like it's the owners fault it would be good if you could also give us some insight as to why it is the owners fault?. If you don't think the owner spends enough time as to how the team is run, how the team is picked, do you think he should be more hands on etc. say so. My thoughts are Katz hires people to do that. He has other business interests apart from the Oilers.
    Pretty much bang on with that statement,that is a known fact with how Katz operates all of his businesses.

    It's up to Chiarelli to get the talent and Mclennan to take the talent he is given and build a team concept from that, it is up to the players to accept that concept and execute it to the best of their ability.

    I don't think that execution is happening

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    Been watching the women's Olympic hockey. Canada has a great team. Wow they play hard. Katz should start a women's team here. The Oilerettes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Been watching the women's Olympic hockey. Canada has a great team. Wow they play hard. Katz should start a women's team here. The Oilerettes.
    Watched the US play Finland yesterday and they sure had their hands full of the Physical Finns who almost tied the game late and were in the lead after the first period. I like a more physical style of play and so the Canadians and Finns play more how I like. Us seems to be going wholly on an attempted speed game. But some of the finish around the net leaves a lot to be desired.

    Basically in Womens hockey making a lot of passes and system play seems to have even more effect. Especially on big ice. you could do a lot just positionally and with numbers back and running a counter game. Really I was more impressed with the Finns strategy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Been watching the women's Olympic hockey. Canada has a great team. Wow they play hard. Katz should start a women's team here. The Oilerettes.
    The women play for the love of the game. NHL players play for pride and money. The money is guaranteed, here the pride hardly exists.

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    The contracts for players are over the top. Not just hockey players, all professional sports pay to much for the talent. It's ridiculous sports players being paid millions more than top surgeons, scientists or other professionals making life/world changing discoveries. I'm not saying people in sports should not be paid a decent wage or that their agents or team owners should get the lions share, but when players are making millions and not preforming there should be some kind of penalty. Pay a reasonable flat amount of pay on sign up. After that pay so much per goal, assist, etc. If they win a trophy at the end of the year give them a good bonus. Given them more incentive to preform maybe put some spark in them. Who knows, maybe bring the price of tickets down also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    It's ridiculous sports players being paid millions more than top surgeons, scientists or other professionals making life/world changing discoveries.
    I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Those pro athletes fill stadiums and attract TV ratings worth billions of dollars. And it's highly competitive, and less than maybe 1% of athletes ever get close to that point. And they risk serious injury every day, and those careers are short.

    And people don't get paid by "importance" anyway. If they did, I think an argument could be made that plumbers should make more than doctors.

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    It's not a matter of 'importance' in that sense. If you looked at another way. Nobody has died by not seeing a professional sports event. Yes sports people risk injury every time they play but there are lots of professions that carry risks and that's every day, not just on game night. We know sports careers are short but the people who go into these sports know that themselves. If they are young going into the sport and past their athletic prime they are still young enough to pursue other channels. Specialists in the medical field don't normally get their specialist degrees until they are in their early 30's. Around the same time as maybe a top athlete is losing his performance rating. As you say, pro athletes fill stadiums and TV ratings worth billions. That's the business side of it not the competitive side.
    Make sports a lucrative career but millions of dollars a year for a contract on a player that's under achieving is literally just paying someone to sit on the bench.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    No, the Oilers aren't ditching - yet. But it's not a bad idea.

    I'm not talking about taking back the high draft choices, and I'm not blaming teams for taking advantage of a league that rewards years of incompetence, and handicaps organizations like Detroit.

    As far as parity goes, the salary cap should be enough.

    It's a little disingenuous to dump on cities for poor attendance when a couple of teams get first shot at all the marquee players - year after year. It's bad for the league, and the game.

    Does anyone think it's right, or fair, that Buffalo and Arizona are at the bottom, yet again, after all those years of high draft picks?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
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    It's ridiculous sports players being paid millions more than top surgeons, scientists or other professionals making life/world changing discoveries.
    I don't think it's ridiculous at all. Those pro athletes fill stadiums and attract TV ratings worth billions of dollars. And it's highly competitive, and less than maybe 1% of athletes ever get close to that point. And they risk serious injury every day, and those careers are short.

    And people don't get paid by "importance" anyway. If they did, I think an argument could be made that plumbers should make more than doctors.
    All of this was the case when pro players were making 5K a year playing hockey and had to get a working stiff job just like everybody else to make ends meet. Nothing has changed in terms of the risk, which used to be far greater, or the difficulty attaining the NHl which used to be harder in the original 6 team NHL where virtually every player in the lineup became a legend. There were no fill players back then filling out a 31 team league. There were 100 players in all of pro hockey and pretty much all allstar calibre players.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    It's not a matter of 'importance' in that sense. If you looked at another way. Nobody has died by not seeing a professional sports event. Yes sports people risk injury every time they play but there are lots of professions that carry risks and that's every day, not just on game night. We know sports careers are short but the people who go into these sports know that themselves. If they are young going into the sport and past their athletic prime they are still young enough to pursue other channels. Specialists in the medical field don't normally get their specialist degrees until they are in their early 30's. Around the same time as maybe a top athlete is losing his performance rating. As you say, pro athletes fill stadiums and TV ratings worth billions. That's the business side of it not the competitive side.
    Make sports a lucrative career but millions of dollars a year for a contract on a player that's under achieving is literally just paying someone to sit on the bench.
    Reasons like this is why I refuse to go to one NHL game these days. Theres just no way I will support 75M buck payrolls and owners wanting .5Billion arenas funded for their benefit.

    Pro sports jumped the shark decades ago. What a con game its become when it used to just be working class entertainment for cheaper than a movie.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Been watching the women's Olympic hockey. Canada has a great team. Wow they play hard. Katz should start a women's team here. The Oilerettes.
    That's a great idea.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    It's not a matter of 'importance' in that sense. If you looked at another way. Nobody has died by not seeing a professional sports event. Yes sports people risk injury every time they play but there are lots of professions that carry risks and that's every day, not just on game night. We know sports careers are short but the people who go into these sports know that themselves. If they are young going into the sport and past their athletic prime they are still young enough to pursue other channels. Specialists in the medical field don't normally get their specialist degrees until they are in their early 30's. Around the same time as maybe a top athlete is losing his performance rating. As you say, pro athletes fill stadiums and TV ratings worth billions. That's the business side of it not the competitive side.
    Make sports a lucrative career but millions of dollars a year for a contract on a player that's under achieving is literally just paying someone to sit on the bench.
    Reasons like this is why I refuse to go to one NHL game these days. Theres just no way I will support 75M buck payrolls and owners wanting .5Billion arenas funded for their benefit.

    Pro sports jumped the shark decades ago. What a con game its become when it used to just be working class entertainment for cheaper than a movie.
    Yeah, I used to go to a lot of games when I was a kid. It was affordable. I can't imagine paying the going rate these days. I'd feel ripped off.

    I read Gordie Howe's autobiography. The owners used to make all that money, and treated players like chattel, paying them poorly, controlling their lives, and not even allowing them to disclose their salaries, so they had no idea what the going rate might be.

    In the 6 team league, one owner had a stake in 4 teams, and he was basically a crook. So, in their infinite wisdom, the NHL names a trophy after him.

    If any player stepped out of line they were banished. either to one of the other teams he owned, or out of the league altogether. It's hard to imagine these days, but that's how it was.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
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    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    If your making statements like it's the owners fault it would be good if you could also give us some insight as to why it is the owners fault?. If you don't think the owner spends enough time as to how the team is run, how the team is picked, do you think he should be more hands on etc. say so. My thoughts are Katz hires people to do that. He has other business interests apart from the Oilers.
    Katz is trying to be buddies with the ex-Oiler greats to the detriment of the team. He kept on Lowe and McTavish when they clearly should have been removed from the team. Who hires someone to the top positions of a team and keeps the previous people in charge around? I believe that them being around, along with Bob Green resulted in the 16 & 33 trade for Reinhart. I don't think that trade would have happened if the old regime wasn't there. The top of the organization is dysfunctional and it just runs on down to the team on the ice. It seems like Katz puts someone in charge but they are not in total charge meaning that their authority is compromised.

    The team has an unprofessional culture and a correction for that is something that has to be instilled from the top of the organization.

    How many more times are they going to celebrate the team from the 80's? How does that help the team now? Who is responsible for these 80's celebrations?

    The Oilers record under Daryl Katz speaks for itself. He is at the top of the suck chain and is ultimately responsible for where the team is.


    I have to disagree with KenL2's assertion that it is a known fact that Katz hires people to do their jobs and lets them. How does that explain Lowe, McTavish, Gretzky and Coffee being employed by the team?

    I would also say that Chiarelli has proven to be a terrible hire.

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    writing on yet another reunion event - albeit one with reason - terry jones this morning wrote ďAt the end of a three-and-half hour ceremony that lived up to the Edmonton Oilers organization reputation of being the league leader in ceremonies...Ē. league leader in ceremonies?

    good on them but really? league leader in ceremonies?

    sometimes i think thatís a symptom of whatís wrong with this team.

    as a fan it would be a lot more rewarding if they could consistently be the league leader for their on-ice effort and results, not ceremonies.
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    Terry Jones in his article also stated that Charlie Huddy would be the Only 84 Oiler not at the ceremony.

    Shame on Terry Jones and RIP Dave Semenko.

    Gone but not forgotten, at least by most of us.

    Maybe he redacted or changed he article since but he had it wrong in first version I saw. That's really an incredible omission. Semenko just died 6mths ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Case in point with the Oilers is they hire mediocre coaches and managers that douse even the fortunes of McD, Draisaitl, Talbot Nurse etc. It takes particular incompetence to parlay cores like this to obscurity.

    Yes.

    And it was brilliant for ol' Bobby Dick to spend his first year just doing an in depth analysis of all aspects of the franchise from top to bottom before making the required strategic changes.

    Top_Dawg shudders to think what shambles this organizagion would be without that superb oversight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SP59 View Post
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    Jimbo, do you really think the Oilers are"ditching"? I think it is sheer incompetence starting with the owner. Is there a worse owner in hockey?
    If your making statements like it's the owners fault it would be good if you could also give us some insight as to why it is the owners fault?. If you don't think the owner spends enough time as to how the team is run, how the team is picked, do you think he should be more hands on etc. say so. My thoughts are Katz hires people to do that. He has other business interests apart from the Oilers.
    Katz is trying to be buddies with the ex-Oiler greats to the detriment of the team. He kept on Lowe and McTavish when they clearly should have been removed from the team. Who hires someone to the top positions of a team and keeps the previous people in charge around? I believe that them being around, along with Bob Green resulted in the 16 & 33 trade for Reinhart. I don't think that trade would have happened if the old regime wasn't there. The top of the organization is dysfunctional and it just runs on down to the team on the ice. It seems like Katz puts someone in charge but they are not in total charge meaning that their authority is compromised.

    The team has an unprofessional culture and a correction for that is something that has to be instilled from the top of the organization.

    How many more times are they going to celebrate the team from the 80's? How does that help the team now? Who is responsible for these 80's celebrations?

    The Oilers record under Daryl Katz speaks for itself. He is at the top of the suck chain and is ultimately responsible for where the team is.


    I have to disagree with KenL2's assertion that it is a known fact that Katz hires people to do their jobs and lets them. How does that explain Lowe, McTavish, Gretzky and Coffee being employed by the team?

    I would also say that Chiarelli has proven to be a terrible hire.
    At the moment it seems the organization is top heavy with Edmonton Oilers from past glory days. On the other hand. If the team was doing great people would be saying it's a great move hiring all those Edmonton Oilers from the teams glory days. Now Gretzky is partner and Vice Chairman of the Oilers Entertainment Group.
    What does that entail?. How committed to that is he, is he buying a home in Edmonton to be here for the hockey season. Chiarelli is supposed to be in charge of the team but maybe there is a lot of talk about his choices and he has to second guess himself. Never sure what the chemistry of an organization is. Is it the management/coaches fault, the players not in sync. Who knows, could be all of those things combined.
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    I even went to a few of those 1984-85 Oilers games. That's quite an honor for our city to have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    I even went to a few of those 1984-85 Oilers games. That's quite an honor for our city to have.
    Are you talking about the hockey games or yourself when you say it's was an honor for our city to have?. There's self promotion then there's grand standing.
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    ^ Hehehe, it wasn't an honor for me to attend some of those games, but its an honor for the City of Edmonton to be associated with such a team as that. ie: The 1984-85 Edmonton Oilers.
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    ^Glad that's been cleared up. Was beginning to think we might have to start addressing you as 'Sir' envaneo.
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    Esquire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    ^Glad that's been cleared up. Was beginning to think we might have to start addressing you as 'Sir' envaneo.
    lol, I'm sure there are others on this board that have been to those games as well. I'm just that old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post
    Esquire.
    Me? I'm a nobody. Even my friends are nobodies.

    The only respect I get is in my lodge and that's be cause i like to think i earned it.


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    ^Well for what it's worth I think you're a somebody. I would give you more creed if you were on the inside of the Sunday Sun. (That's were the Sunshine Boys used to be).
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    ^ Lol, trust me, I'm not nor was a Sunshine boy material. i have a dented in back and a slumped low shoulder 40 pounds over weight and no upper teeth.

    Thanks for the love.
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    This thread has been derailed. Can we get back to the topic please?
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    Sportsnet showed a graphic in tonight's game regarding the current scoring droughts of our secondary production:

    Letestu - 19 games
    Lucic - 18
    Strome - 18
    Cammelleri 16
    Maroon - 7
    Puljujarvi - 7

    That's brutal.

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    7-5 unbelievable. For the same 2 many men play the Oilers got called for they officials didn't call the exact same play Florida got away with. Plus delay of game call, chop block on McDavid. Talbot is a grade c goaltender. The team played ok for the most part when it was tied at 3 but yeesh, the officiating. Where is the accountability?

    Again 35 games where they give up the first goal.

    ^ If the Oilers could I'd like to see them move all but the bottom 2 on that list.
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    Who's gonna take that slug Lucic off their hands at $ix mil a year for the next six years ?

    Chicken choker's stuck with him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post


    Who's gonna take that slug Lucic off their hands at $ix mil a year for the next six years ?

    Chicken choker's stuck with him.
    I saw someone musing about trading him to Boston (likely to waive his NMC) and retaining salary. Not that anybody wants to pay for a player on another team. Is anybody struggling to reach the cap floor this year?

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    yes our powerplay sucks but how do you call 4 penalties against us, and zero against the Panthers. A few quite obvious ones too. But yes Talbot was brutal, some really weak goals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K364 View Post
    Sportsnet showed a graphic in tonight's game regarding the current scoring droughts of our secondary production:

    Letestu - 19 games
    Lucic - 18
    Strome - 18
    Cammelleri 16
    Maroon - 7
    Puljujarvi - 7

    That's brutal.
    Maroon scored. A nice one too, a goal involving quick hand eye coordination that Lucic would never score. Just add one more game to all the others.

    Also wondering why Khaira wasn't on the graphic. He hasn't scored in 8 goals. Its lol funny that theres so many parked players that they forget to list them all.

    Just a correction as well. This is not necessarily our "secondary production" this is a Chia lineup that is so weak, and so lacking in depth that several of those players find themselves on our PP and topsix.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Top_Dawg View Post


    Who's gonna take that slug Lucic off their hands at $ix mil a year for the next six years ?

    Chicken choker's stuck with him.
    I saw someone musing about trading him to Boston (likely to waive his NMC) and retaining salary. Not that anybody wants to pay for a player on another team. Is anybody struggling to reach the cap floor this year?
    Even Boston wouldn't even have him now. What a garbage contract.
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    I would have liked to an old-fashioned meltdown by McClelland against the Referee - bottle throwing, empty the stick rack on the ice, etc.

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    As relatively cheap depth they might

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    I was wondering why TM separates McD and Drai . I thought they were a dynamic duo, one of the best in the league, good for two or three goals in a lot of games. Just wondering as I watch them down 4 zip to Vegas. Have not seen them play together, always on separate lines. I know he's been doing that for a while, I question it. Pretty cool that those people from Sherwood Park got married right at the game, and by Elvis! Only in Vegas.
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    Sounds to me like Staples is calling for a ditch.

    Talking about shutting down Sekera and Klefbom, trading Maroon, Cammalleri, and Letestu, bringing up the minor league goalies.

    Nobody wants to use the T-Word (tank), but that's where we are, again.
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    The only thing the Oilers accomplished was to spoil Fleury's shutout and deny the crowd free donuts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimbo View Post
    Sounds to me like Staples is calling for a ditch.

    Talking about shutting down Sekera and Klefbom, trading Maroon, Cammalleri, and Letestu, bringing up the minor league goalies.

    Nobody wants to use the T-Word (tank), but that's where we are, again.
    I missed all but most of the 3rd period. I came in on the 4th goal.

    With being 3rd position in the lottery, The Oilers have long way to go lose in order to qualify for that "ahem" distinction.

    I haven't been following but Just wondering, who looks like to win the race to be in the #1 position to be selected for this year?
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    Rasmus Dahlin Swedish defenseman. It generally takes a few years to develop a defenseman though. Unless it's a Bobby Orr or Paul Coffey type I think they should go with the most prolific goal scorer available and trade for a defenseman. They need goals. The last five games they've had 25 goals against tho so who knows where to begin. I noticed Conner right in close again and passed it back when I thought he could have just buried it. He's such an awesome player and can skate so well and rag the puck around and do everything else that you hate to be critical. I just have a small bit of frustration sometimes when I see him do that. If it was a prolific goal scorer he was passing back to it would be different but it's generally one of the schmucks that squanders the chance. Fingers crossed for him to win the Art Ross, anything other than that for the team I've given up on now, finally.
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    Unlike Georges Laraque, I'm not calling for a heart transplant. I think everyone is trying, but the execution isn't there.

    Vegas is just a much better team. Much faster to the puck. On their toes, initiating play all the time. My roommate said the Oilers were in it for a bit, but when I was watching it was almost unfair. Vegas was all over them, and the Oilers were running around trying to keep up. And they couldn't.

    McDavid can't do it all.

    I've heard rumours of an RNH for Hoffman deal with Ottawa. Hoffman is just the kind of player the Oilers need, but it would be tough to lose RNH. I thought an RNH for Paccioretti deal was cooking near the start of the season.

    I think Maroon is as good as gone, but I doubt the Oilers would get the low 1st round pick they are reportedly asking. I doubt they get a 1st, period. But you never know, some team like Boston might think it's worth a shot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    Rasmus Dahlin Swedish defenseman. It generally takes a few years to develop a defenseman though. Unless it's a Bobby Orr or Paul Coffey type I think they should go with the most prolific goal scorer available and trade for a defenseman. They need goals. The last five games they've had 25 goals against tho so who knows where to begin. I noticed Conner right in close again and passed it back when I thought he could have just buried it. He's such an awesome player and can skate so well and rag the puck around and do everything else that you hate to be critical. I just have a small bit of frustration sometimes when I see him do that. If it was a prolific goal scorer he was passing back to it would be different but it's generally one of the schmucks that squanders the chance. Fingers crossed for him to win the Art Ross, anything other than that for the team I've given up on now, finally.
    I know 2 different players with different skills but even Crosby got 50+goals once in his NHL career.

    Ryan Nugent Hopkins is damaged goods and to valuable a player. I don't see PC moving him. The Oilers are usually quiet on trade deadline day. I'm not expecting anything big to come out of next week from the Oilers camp.

    But anything can happen
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    Can we trade the front office for an nice Nanaimo bar?

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    After watching the game this afternoon I was hoping for a housecleaning top to bottom. What an awful game. 1-0 for Arizona, last place team in the league. The Oilers are getting closer and I'm thinking they may take over that dubious distinction. Only the Coyotes and the Sabres have fewer points.
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    ^ I thought the game was on at 8pm. Looks like I didn't miss much. What's that, 38 games now the Oilers let in the 1st goal. Looks like they're ditchin for sure.
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    The way the Oilers are playing this season, I aprpeciate the spoiler alerts. Drumbones, thanks for making me stop watching after the usual 1st-period giveaway.
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    ^^38 yes. ^ you're welcome. Team Canada also lost to the Czechs in Pyeongchang and the Koe rink lost to the Swedes. Not a good day.
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    11th game of the year where the first shot goes in, as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by K364 View Post
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    Take your pick.

    https://www.tripadvisor.ca/Restauran..._Columbia.html

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    Oilers give up the 1st goal again
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    Quote Originally Posted by K364 View Post
    Can we trade the front office for an nice Nanaimo bar?
    Maybe a Kit-Kat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Oilers give up the 1st goal again
    Ah, there just toying with the their opponents. They'll come back.............maybe, hopefully, it's possible, in with a chance etc.
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    ^ I'm not holding my breath
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    Hat trick CMD and Strome 1 for a 4-2 win in Denver this afternoon

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    About time. Amusing to watch Strome at the bench with his stick
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    Ya, that was funny. Then he went out and scored. He should get angry more often.

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    Chia should be fired for what the Oilers bottomsix and bottom pairings look like at this point but he won't be.

    Theres 5 forwards on this whole club worth having. After that the dropoff is extreme.

    Theres 2 D currently worth having.

    A great goalie

    that's it
    Just a slight exaggeration. This club was good enough last year, with basically the same players, to make it to round 2 and get 103 points in the regular season. Is the team playing well enough, obviously not, but to make these types of sweeping statements is ridiculous.
    Going back for posterity; (conversation was in November 2017)

    I wonder which was the ridiculous statement..
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    Interesting that the Islanders would hoist a banner for Jordan Eberle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Interesting that the Islanders would hoist a banner for Jordan Eberle.
    Banner? For what?

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    ^ Or I could be just imagining things but it looked like they were raising a banner. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny this.
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    No one has any idea what you're talking about.

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    ^ I must have been imagining things.

    Lets see i remember my sin #, this terminal log in #, my work log in # I know my mailing and email addresses, my iTunes pw, my video editing skills are ok since i uploaded a you tube video over the weekend.

    Pulse rate is normal. Situation normal. Maybe i just had a blond moment.
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    It was probly Jordan Eberle raising a banner thanking the Islanders for getting him out of the oiler cesspool.

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    ^ LOL. "Thank you Garth for pulling me out of Edmonton."
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    Have you checked your blood sugar? High and low sugar can do crazy things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    ^ Or I could be just imagining things but it looked like they were raising a banner. Maybe someone else can confirm or deny this.
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    No one has any idea what you're talking about.
    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    ^ I must have been imagining things.

    Lets see i remember my sin #, this terminal log in #, my work log in # I know my mailing and email addresses, my iTunes pw, my video editing skills are ok since i uploaded a you tube video over the weekend.

    Pulse rate is normal. Situation normal. Maybe i just had a blond moment.
    i'm not sure you were imagining things...

    i can't find it either right now but i also seem to remember there was a ceremony - although i can't remember if there was an actual banner raising - possibly celebrating the world cup being awarded to buffalo in 2018? eberle, was a past captain and winner of a gold and a silver at the world juniors. in doing so, he was also voted the top junior player ever (beating eric lindros for the honour) so he would have been a bit of a natural to be featured as the team's representative or spokes-player in regard to the world juniors.

    so now there are two of us for whom no-one - including us? - has any factual idea of what we're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    And that is why you do not give a kid, a 6 yr 6 million dollar contract. They need to earn it and not have it handed to them so early.

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    Geez. you leave one place and Oilers up 2 - 0. You get home and it's 2 all. WTH
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    Wow just wow.

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    3-2 Boston. The Oilers played well for half the game then they petered out and played like $hit the last half.

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    Who in their right mind puts Lucic out there on a 6 on 4 with 44 seconds left? The guy has a 1/4 season scoreless streak going ffs.

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