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    Chelsea is the Jeb of the Clinton family.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Can you go a single post without stooping to insulting me?

    I have an intelligent response and a couple of serious questions to ask you, but if you cannot respond without taking cheap shots, why should I bother?

    EDIT - by the way, I am NOT Christian (not sure why you make that assumption)
    I didn't say you were Christian. Just that you'd agree with most of their platform. You know, keeping everyone who doesn't have Judeo-Christian values out of the country and all that. Getting rid of secular education as well, as long as it's the right religion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Chelsea is the Jeb of the Clinton family.
    She's getting primed for something that's for sure. I don't think she is as dense as the Bush's but she's not that savvy herself. I'm thinking sometime in the future her name is going to be on some ballot or another.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Chelsea is the Jeb of the Clinton family.
    She's getting primed for something that's for sure. I don't think she is as dense as the Bush's but she's not that savvy herself. I'm thinking sometime in the future her name is going to be on some ballot or another.
    If she's smart, she won't run for President.jmho

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Do these people ever give up on their incessant bleating of Trump.
    Chelsea Clinton putting herself out there again. I don't have a crystal ball but this family seems like it will do and say anything to stay relevant.
    Another Clinton for 2024, I hope not.

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    Chelsea Clinton Throws Cold Water On Donald Trump's Claim About Her Mother



    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...gLE&ocid=ientp

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    We don't care Chelsea. Throw cold water on Trump's claim. We would like to turn the water hoses on your family.
    So, let's see if we've got this right. Trump brings up Chelsea Clinton, saying:

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    When I left Conference Room for short meetings with Japan and other countries, I asked Ivanka to hold seat. Very standard. Angela M agrees!
    8:31 AM - 10 Jul 2017
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    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!
    8:47 AM - 10 Jul 2017
    and you're saying that Chelsea is the one doing the incessant bleating?

    The funny thing is that even though Hillary Clinton wouldn't have had Chelsea "hold her seat" (as if some other country from the bleachers would run up and take it), Chelsea actually has a Doctorate in international relations from Oxford. Maybe she should have attended Trump "University" instead. Ivanka, on the other hand is a clothing designer who has actually stolen designs for her clothing line.

    Which one would actually be more appropriate to "hold a seat" at a G-20 meeting?
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    That is if even Chelsea would be part of the Clinton Administration.

    BTW, neither Hillary or Chelsea were at the G-20 summit and have nothing to do with what is going on there.

    I guess that Trump has to create fake news and propaganda against his enemies to have to vindicate himself and protect his delicate thin skin. Must be horrible to be soooo insecure. I guess that intelligent women scare him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Do these people ever give up on their incessant bleating of Trump.
    Chelsea Clinton putting herself out there again. I don't have a crystal ball but this family seems like it will do and say anything to stay relevant.
    Another Clinton for 2024, I hope not.

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    Chelsea Clinton Throws Cold Water On Donald Trump's Claim About Her Mother



    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...gLE&ocid=ientp

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    We don't care Chelsea. Throw cold water on Trump's claim. We would like to turn the water hoses on your family.
    So, let's see if we've got this right. Trump brings up Chelsea Clinton, saying:

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    When I left Conference Room for short meetings with Japan and other countries, I asked Ivanka to hold seat. Very standard. Angela M agrees!
    8:31 AM - 10 Jul 2017
    And


    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!
    8:47 AM - 10 Jul 2017
    and you're saying that Chelsea is the one doing the incessant bleating?

    The funny thing is that even though Hillary Clinton wouldn't have had Chelsea "hold her seat" (as if some other country from the bleachers would run up and take it), Chelsea actually has a masters degree in international relations from Oxford. Maybe she should have attended Trump "University" instead. Ivanka, on the other hand is a clothing designer who has actually stolen designs for her clothing line.

    Which one would actually be more appropriate to "hold a seat" at a G-20 meeting?
    Well, if your talking about experience along with education Hillary apparently had a great education and all kinds of (political) experience and she still managed to **** things up. To top that off it was Trump who won over her. Who's the smartest one there.
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    Trump's who won over her*

    *russian influence, didn't get majority of voters, etc

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    *Guess who lied more to win the election?

    It's a 5 letter word starting with a capital "T" and rhymes with rump.
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    Oh jeez stop the presses. Somebody lied to get elected. Who would have thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Do these people ever give up on their incessant bleating of Trump.
    Chelsea Clinton putting herself out there again. I don't have a crystal ball but this family seems like it will do and say anything to stay relevant.
    Another Clinton for 2024, I hope not.

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    Chelsea Clinton Throws Cold Water On Donald Trump's Claim About Her Mother



    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...gLE&ocid=ientp

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    We don't care Chelsea. Throw cold water on Trump's claim. We would like to turn the water hoses on your family.
    So, let's see if we've got this right. Trump brings up Chelsea Clinton, saying:

    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    When I left Conference Room for short meetings with Japan and other countries, I asked Ivanka to hold seat. Very standard. Angela M agrees!
    8:31 AM - 10 Jul 2017
    And


    Donald J. Trump ✔ @realDonaldTrump
    If Chelsea Clinton were asked to hold the seat for her mother,as her mother gave our country away, the Fake News would say CHELSEA FOR PRES!
    8:47 AM - 10 Jul 2017
    and you're saying that Chelsea is the one doing the incessant bleating?

    The funny thing is that even though Hillary Clinton wouldn't have had Chelsea "hold her seat" (as if some other country from the bleachers would run up and take it), Chelsea actually has a masters degree in international relations from Oxford. Maybe she should have attended Trump "University" instead. Ivanka, on the other hand is a clothing designer who has actually stolen designs for her clothing line.

    Which one would actually be more appropriate to "hold a seat" at a G-20 meeting?
    Well, if your talking about experience along with education Hillary apparently had a great education and all kinds of (political) experience and she still managed to **** things up. To top that off it was Trump who won over her. Who's the smartest one there.

    Or as Trump call them, his base.


    Trump in Nevada: 'I Love the Poorly Educated'

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    ^That's The Donald.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Oh jeez stop the presses. Somebody lied to get elected. Who would have thought.
    Yeah but he took it to a whole new level.

    He took it straight out of the playbook and put his signature brand onto it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Can you go a single post without stooping to insulting me?

    I have an intelligent response and a couple of serious questions to ask you, but if you cannot respond without taking cheap shots, why should I bother?

    EDIT - by the way, I am NOT Christian (not sure why you make that assumption)
    I didn't say you were Christian. Just that you'd agree with most of their platform. You know, keeping everyone who doesn't have Judeo-Christian values out of the country and all that. Getting rid of secular education as well, as long as it's the right religion.
    You are wrong, wrong, and wrong again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post

    Trump in Nevada: 'I Love the Poorly Educated'

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    I for one am glad he loves the poorly educated. Lots of people are poorly educated and they deserve respect as well.

    What kind of a snob doesn't agree with respecting people just because they have a poor education?

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    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Do these people ever give up on their incessant bleating of Trump.
    Chelsea Clinton putting herself out there again. I don't have a crystal ball but this family seems like it will do and say anything to stay relevant.
    Another Clinton for 2024, I hope not.

    --------
    Chelsea Clinton Throws Cold Water On Donald Trump's Claim About Her Mother

    http://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/politi...gLE&ocid=ientp

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    We don't care Chelsea. Throw cold water on Trump's claim. We would like to turn the water hoses on your family.
    Well she probably would have been happy to say nothing if Trump hadn't dragged her name into to it. I know Trump and their supporters like to attack whoever they feel is an enemy at any given time, but to then attack them a second time for just defending themselves instead of remaining silent after the first attack is ridiculous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Can you go a single post without stooping to insulting me?

    I have an intelligent response and a couple of serious questions to ask you, but if you cannot respond without taking cheap shots, why should I bother?

    EDIT - by the way, I am NOT Christian (not sure why you make that assumption)
    I didn't say you were Christian. Just that you'd agree with most of their platform. You know, keeping everyone who doesn't have Judeo-Christian values out of the country and all that. Getting rid of secular education as well, as long as it's the right religion.
    You are wrong, wrong, and wrong again.
    OK, just the racist bits then, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!
    What a snob - someone isn't less than you are because they don't have a degree - its exactly those sort of elitist ivory tower views that gave rise to Trump being the President - people are tired of liberals who think they know everything, but really know next to nothing. We are slowly turning into a society of chiefs with nobody who can actually do the day to day work we need to survive, from cleaning a building, to fixing a drain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!
    Want to prevent the electorate from calling you out on science denial? Deny them an education science in the first place!
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post

    Trump in Nevada: 'I Love the Poorly Educated'

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    I for one am glad he loves the poorly educated. Lots of people are poorly educated and they deserve respect as well.

    What kind of a snob doesn't agree with respecting people just because they have a poor education?
    He loved them because he figured they were more likely to buy his bs, not because he really wants to help them. Another example of the Trump win/lose mentality. In this case he won and the less educated, well they didn't.

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    Fifty-eight percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country, according to a new Pew Research Center study. This marks a 45 percent increase from last year's study. Comparatively, 72 percent of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents say higher education has a positive impact on the country. Fifty-five percent of the general population was also found to think positively of higher education. The research center surveyed 2,504 adults across the country last month.
    Article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/pew-mos...ad-for-america

    Study: http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/...-institutions/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    He loved them because he figured they were more likely to buy his bs, not because he really wants to help them. Another example of the Trump win/lose mentality. In this case he won and the less educated, well they didn't.
    Keep them fat, dumb and happy...
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Fifty-eight percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country, according to a new Pew Research Center study. This marks a 45 percent increase from last year's study. Comparatively, 72 percent of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents say higher education has a positive impact on the country. Fifty-five percent of the general population was also found to think positively of higher education. The research center surveyed 2,504 adults across the country last month.
    Article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/pew-mos...ad-for-america

    Study: http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/...-institutions/
    Those kind of numbers are terrifying, frankly. 30-40% of the overall US population seems like it would be perfectly happy going back to the dark ages. I mean seriously, they're opposed to education?

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    A lot of higher education is a complete waste (E.g. programs that produce nothing of value - lots of humanities and liberal arts programs come to mind).

    It's very snobbish to think that it's somehow the greatest achievement someone can have.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!
    What a snob - someone isn't less than you are because they don't have a degree - its exactly those sort of elitist ivory tower views that gave rise to Trump being the President - people are tired of liberals who think they know everything, but really know next to nothing. We are slowly turning into a society of chiefs with nobody who can actually do the day to day work we need to survive, from cleaning a building, to fixing a drain.
    You nailed it.

    Governments would be wise to de-fund useless go-nowhere post-secondary programs like "Womens Studies" and focus instead on growing and attracting more people to trades and apprenticeships.

    However, the liberal politicians will never do that, because the go-nowhere liberal arts programs is where they get to put students into debt they are unable to pay back while indoctrinating them about the "greatness" of socialism and the "evils" of capitalism and conservatism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Can you go a single post without stooping to insulting me?

    I have an intelligent response and a couple of serious questions to ask you, but if you cannot respond without taking cheap shots, why should I bother?

    EDIT - by the way, I am NOT Christian (not sure why you make that assumption)
    I didn't say you were Christian. Just that you'd agree with most of their platform. You know, keeping everyone who doesn't have Judeo-Christian values out of the country and all that. Getting rid of secular education as well, as long as it's the right religion.
    You are wrong, wrong, and wrong again.
    OK, just the racist bits then, right?

    Ha ha - wow! You cannot even go a single post without resorting to cheap insults! That's sad!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Fifty-eight percent of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say colleges and universities have a negative effect on the country, according to a new Pew Research Center study. This marks a 45 percent increase from last year's study. Comparatively, 72 percent of Democrats and Democrat-leaning independents say higher education has a positive impact on the country. Fifty-five percent of the general population was also found to think positively of higher education. The research center surveyed 2,504 adults across the country last month.
    Article: http://www.thedailybeast.com/pew-mos...ad-for-america

    Study: http://www.people-press.org/2017/07/...-institutions/
    Those kind of numbers are terrifying, frankly. 30-40% of the overall US population seems like it would be perfectly happy going back to the dark ages. I mean seriously, they're opposed to education?
    Unfortunately, the US has long had uneducated right wing blowhards. Watch Archie Bunker in the 70's sitcom All in the Family and you will see exacty that. He spends most of his time disparaging minorities, the value of higher education and any type of liberal thought.

    Yes, start educatin' those minorities and they might get better jobs and start getting too uppity - can't have that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!
    What a snob - someone isn't less than you are because they don't have a degree - its exactly those sort of elitist ivory tower views that gave rise to Trump being the President - people are tired of liberals who think they know everything, but really know next to nothing. We are slowly turning into a society of chiefs with nobody who can actually do the day to day work we need to survive, from cleaning a building, to fixing a drain.
    Lots of leftie snobs on this board, they are living a charmed life I'm sure. ( j/k) What would they do without the blue collar worker without a degree. Take no notice, legends in their own minds most of them, and only sound off like this, on this board would be my guess.LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    I'd prefer people who embraced and encouraged a good education. But yeah, let's encourage people to drop out of school, not bother learning to read or write or learn basic math. Hooray for making America poorly educated again!
    What a snob - someone isn't less than you are because they don't have a degree - its exactly those sort of elitist ivory tower views that gave rise to Trump being the President - people are tired of liberals who think they know everything, but really know next to nothing. We are slowly turning into a society of chiefs with nobody who can actually do the day to day work we need to survive, from cleaning a building, to fixing a drain.

    You nailed it.

    Governments would be wise to de-fund useless go-nowhere post-secondary programs like "Womens Studies" and focus instead on growing and attracting more people to trades and apprenticeships.

    However, the liberal politicians will never do that, because the go-nowhere liberal arts programs is where they get to put students into debt they are unable to pay back while indoctrinating them about the "greatness" of socialism and the "evils" of capitalism and conservatism.
    Sorry, but the trades do not mean that people are "poorly educated." unless you're suggesting we stop teaching children in elementary school anything other than what they'd need in order to do a job.

    Does an electrician or a pipefitter or a carpenter need to know history? No? Out it goes. Goodbye Shakespeare. You're not needed for a trade. Same with most sciences for most people. Forget about basic biology or chemistry. Who needs math other than basic arithmetic?

    What a sad, little world you live in.

    Here's a scary picture for you. It's got girls and Islam and schooling all in one.


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Sorry, but the trades do not mean that people are "poorly educated."
    Duh. Obviously.

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    So if people are in the trades and not "poorly educated" then those are not the people Trump (and yourself) are referring to. Therefore, you're moving the goal posts. You're still speaking out in favour of people being poorly educated and you're OK with that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    A lot of higher education is a complete waste (E.g. programs that produce nothing of value - lots of humanities and liberal arts programs come to mind).

    It's very snobbish to think that it's somehow the greatest achievement someone can have.
    You're responding to someone without a university degree (I'm a plumber, technically). And where did I say it's "the greatest achievement someone can have"? I never did. But the fact is, that the most wealthy and healthy societies are ones that are well educated. And the poorest and unhealthiest, are those without much education at all. Again, you and your ilk would seem to be content going back to the dark ages, if only to spite the "elites" you so despise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave
    Unfortunately, the US has long had uneducated right wing blowhards. Watch Archie Bunker in the 70's sitcom All in the Family and you will see exacty that. He spends most of his time disparaging minorities, the value of higher education and any type of liberal thought.


    Yeah, but the thing is, you were supposed to be laughing AT Bunker, not with him. And back then, most people seemed to know that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    So if people are in the trades and not "poorly educated" then those are not the people Trump (and yourself) are referring to. Therefore, you're moving the goal posts. You're still speaking out in favour of people being poorly educated and you're OK with that.
    Now you are arguing with me over something I never asserted at all.

    Congratulations on making a post without calling me a name, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    A lot of higher education is a complete waste (E.g. programs that produce nothing of value - lots of humanities and liberal arts programs come to mind).

    It's very snobbish to think that it's somehow the greatest achievement someone can have.
    And where did I say it's "the greatest achievement someone can have"? I never did.
    You didn't.

    I wasn't talking to, nor referring to you.

    I also don't hate education, but as somebody with a couple of university degrees like myself can attest (not bragging, just talking from first-hand experience), it's typical of liberal arts majors to hold a huge air of self-importance and to look down anyone less educated (or even differently educated) than them. Our society needs a lot less of that, and a lot more plain old job training.

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    The poll did not ask about particular degrees or subjects. The poll was asking, in general, whether universities/colleges were a good influence or bad on the country. The fact that almost 60% of Republicans believe they have a negative influence is a sad state of affairs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    A lot of higher education is a complete waste (E.g. programs that produce nothing of value - lots of humanities and liberal arts programs come to mind).

    It's very snobbish to think that it's somehow the greatest achievement someone can have.
    And where did I say it's "the greatest achievement someone can have"? I never did.
    You didn't.

    I wasn't talking to, nor referring to you.

    I also don't hate education, but as somebody with a couple of university degrees like myself can attest (not bragging, just talking from first-hand experience), it's typical of liberal arts majors to hold a huge air of self-importance and to look down anyone less educated (or even differently educated) than them. Our society needs a lot less of that, and a lot more plain old job training.
    Fascinating. Do you have a humanities or liberal arts degree?

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    I heard at university that you can also study Chemical Engineering, Forestry, Physics, Medicine, Education, Mechanical Engineering and also Arts.
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    Hitler was an Arts student.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    The poll was asking, in general, whether universities/colleges were a good influence or bad on the country.
    Maybe the USA's post-secondary system is a bad influence on the country and need to improve?

    All you have to do is look at how Berkeley students burn the place to the ground simply because they don't want anyone to hear someone give a lecture. Private schools also play a much bigger role in post-secondary in the USA than in our country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Hitler was an Arts student.
    Yeah, he was such a liberal

    WTF
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Hitler was an Arts student.
    Bill Miller has economics and philosophy I believe. George Soros philosophy too. Oprah Winfrey some arts degree. The guy that started Starbucks too I believe.

    Some engineers have done great things too. Eg: Intel However Apple and Microsoft show that the engineers might get things going but the dropouts seem to do astronomically better. Moreover, a lot of engineers create startups that only loose value (most mining companies, and a whole lor of concept startups).
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers
    Maybe the USA's post-secondary system is a bad influence on the country and need to improve?


    The US has the best post secondary education system on the planet by a mile, and it's not even close. China's trying to catch up, but they have a problem with plagiarism, favoritism, and so on. Which is to be expected in a country without the rule of law and so on. No one with a shred of common sense would dispute that the US is on top by a mile. People travel from all around the world to attend US colleges and universities. The private colleges can be ridiculously expensive, yes, but even the state colleges can be very, very good.

    Private schools also play a much bigger role in post-secondary in the USA than in our country.
    I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here. The poll did not differentiate between private and public schools.

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    Is this all supposed to tie in with Trump saying he loved 'the poorly educated'

    Who was he talking about (his definition or so one else's?) and why did he say that?

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    Sad


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    Kid Rock is running for US Senate in 2018.

    https://www.kidrockforsenate.com/

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    They just can't catch a beak.

    The White House tweeted out a video attacking the CBO. It spelled "inaccurately" wrong.

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    TRUMP Records His 23rd New Stock Market High – Market Up 17% Since Election
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    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
    TRUMP Records His 23rd New Stock Market High – Market Up 17% Since Election
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ince-election/
    What things has Trump actually changed to affect the stock market? Seriously? What legislation changed in the US?

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    TRUMP Records His 23rd New Stock Market High – Market Up 17% Since Election
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ince-election/
    What things has Trump actually changed to affect the stock market? Seriously? What legislation changed in the US?
    Abandoning Paris Agreement. Ridding regulations on coal , promising to reduce taxes to 15% .

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    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
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    TRUMP Records His 23rd New Stock Market High – Market Up 17% Since Election
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ince-election/
    What things has Trump actually changed to affect the stock market? Seriously? What legislation changed in the US?
    Abandoning Paris Agreement. Ridding regulations on coal , promising to reduce taxes to 15% .
    Paris happened June 1st, that's barely had time to register since the election. Coal regulations aren't pushing the market up 17%.

    You're right, he's promised to reduce taxes 15%. That's all the stock market is acting on from Trump. 'Promises'. No actual changes yet. Let's talk Stock Market impacts when he actually does things.

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    TRUMP Records His 23rd New Stock Market High – Market Up 17% Since Election
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2017...ince-election/
    What things has Trump actually changed to affect the stock market? Seriously? What legislation changed in the US?
    Abandoning Paris Agreement. Ridding regulations on coal , promising to reduce taxes to 15% .
    Paris happened June 1st, that's barely had time to register since the election. Coal regulations aren't pushing the market up 17%.

    You're right, he's promised to reduce taxes 15%. That's all the stock market is acting on from Trump. 'Promises'. No actual changes yet. Let's talk Stock Market impacts when he actually does things.
    He's been saying a long time he was going abandon Paris Agreement. He also promise to revise NAFTA. The market reacted the day he got elected,...

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    Also his campaign promise of spending $3 Trillion across the country on infrastructure. That, in part, has caused the markets to react positively.

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    http://www.nme.com/news/music/donald...medley-2110750

    Donald Trump has continued his state visit to France by attending a Bastille Day parade, where a military band played an medley of Daft Punk songs.
    But while the band’s take on one of France’s finest musical exports is mightily impressive, their performance was only topped by The Donald’s reaction to the whole thing.

    Despite seemingly dishing out praise to President Emanuel Macron at the start of the routine, Trump becomes increasingly bored, bewildered, and looks like a man who would rather be anywhere else by the time that they start playing Harder, Better, Faster.

    Macron, meanwhile, appears to be the figure of Bastille Day joy – and is seen grinning throughout the performance.
    Giving less of a damn than ever… Can't laugh at the ignorant if you ignore them!

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    A meandering US Air Force One flight:

    Excerpts From Trump’s Conversation With Journalists on Air Force One - NYTimes.com

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/1...www.google.ca/

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    A meandering US Air Force One flight:

    Excerpts From Trump’s Conversation With Journalists on Air Force One - NYTimes.com

    https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/07/1...www.google.ca/
    A couple of other people? We're up to eight now.

    THE PRESIDENT: Don is — as many of you know Don — he’s a good boy. He’s a good kid. And he had a meeting, nothing happened with the meeting. It was a short meeting as he told me — because I only heard about it two or three days ago.


    As he told me, the meeting went — and it was attended by a couple of other people who — one of them left after a few minutes — which is Jared. The other one was playing with his iPhone. Don listened, out of politeness, and realized it wasn’t . . . .

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    One representative was so fed up with the White House press briefings that he introduced a new bill
    http://rare.us/rare-news/the-media/o...ed-a-new-bill/
    Following President Trump’s suggestion to get rid of daily White House press briefings, White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer has conducted more closed press briefings at a rate less frequent than many would like.


    Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.) sought a change by introducing the “Free Press Act,” which calls for the administration to conduct at least two video-recorded press briefings a week.


    ED: Sean Spicer and a White House reporter had a brief squabble over the “no cameras” rule


    He criticized Trump’s “overly hostile attitude toward the press.” “This simple bill achieves two important goals,” he said. “First, it ensures that the press briefings will continue on a regular schedule. Second, it guarantees the American people have access to the proceedings first hand.”


    Himes told Hearst Connecticut Media that it was “a very dangerous thing” for the Trump administration to target “the media as purveyors of fake news and enemies of the American people.”


    “As a politician, I understand the media can be annoying from time to time,” he continued. “(But) the media plays an essential role holding people like me and the president our feet to the fire.”
    Trump should endorse this. To prevent 'fake news' there is no better way to have a public forum of information on current events is live broadcasts of a twice weekly WH press briefing.

    I think every Republican will endorse this too for the good of the country.

    I also think that Trump will call up Hillary and ask her to marry him.

    I think the last prediction is the most likely...
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    He doesn't want video. If there's no video, he can deny he or his spokespersons said what's being reported. There's lots of times when he's denied saying something and there's video. During one of the debates, he denied saying something in an interview on Fox and the debate moderator, Chris Wallace, was the one he said it to.

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    Are YOU suggesting that Donald Trump is dishonest???
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    Congrats to President Trump for achieving the lowest approval rating of a president in the last 70 years. Just 36% of people surveyed approve of the job he's doing.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-at-record-low
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Congrats to President Trump for achieving the lowest approval rating of a president in the last 70 years. Just 36% of people surveyed approve of the job he's doing.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-at-record-low

    Another poll

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    https://www.washingtonpost.com/page/...EeeUq1sfD_RZ3w

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    Found it no problem

    The latest results follow news that Donald Trump Jr. met with a Russian lawyer offering damaging information about Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton.

    Almost two-thirds of Americans, 63 percent, said that meeting was inappropriate.
    Sixty percent also said Russia tried to influence the campaign.

    Just 38 percent said he’s making significant progress on his agenda, while 55 percent said he is not.

    Trump’s competence on the world stage is also a concern, according to the poll.

    Two-thirds of Americans don’t trust him to negotiate with world leaders on America’s behalf, and about half, 48 percent, say the U.S.'s world leadership has become weaker under Trump.
    I thought that by now Trump promised that we would be tired of so much winning, under hid leadership. I guess the USS Trump never left the docks, let alone set sail...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Just 36% of people surveyed approve of the job he's doing.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-at-record-low
    Well only 23% of the people they polled were Republicans!

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    Trump's lawyer says that the Secret Service would have shut down meeting if it was shady. The Secret Service responds with facts.

    Why would Trump's lawyer think that the Secret Service was at the meeting when the only person they were protecting at the point was Candidate Trump. Hmmm, maybe Donald was at the meeting after all. That's the only way the Secret Service would be.

    Oh wait, I know! It's so obvious! The Secret Service is on on the conspiracy to make it look like the Trumps are in bed with the Russians! It all makes sense!

    U.S. Secret Service rejects suggestion it vetted Trump son's meeting

    "Well, I wonder why the Secret Service, if this was nefarious, why the Secret Service allowed these people in. The president had Secret Service protection at that point, and that raised a question with me," Jay Sekulow, a member of the president's legal team, said on Sunday on the ABC news program "This Week."


    In an emailed response to questions about Sekulow's comments, Secret Service spokesman Mason Brayman said the younger Trump was not under Secret Service protection at the time of the meeting, which included Trump's son and two senior campaign officials.


    "Donald Trump, Jr. was not a protectee of the USSS in June, 2016. Thus we would not have screened anyone he was meeting with at that time," the statement said.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1A10Q9



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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Gord Lacey View Post
    Just 36% of people surveyed approve of the job he's doing.

    http://thehill.com/homenews/administ...-at-record-low
    Well only 23% of the people they polled were Republicans!
    They searched and searched but so few people would admit that they were Republicans... LOL
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    Trumps popularity is only rising . Hes in tune with the middle class , regular folks who care about jobs the economy , immigration , borders . Fake news would tell you Clinton popularity was at 90%

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    How do you know his popularity is rising?
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    Trumpo is the least popular president in 70 years, and that rating keeps failing.

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    Time to make more ISIS recruits.

    Trump’s ISIS war set to double Obama’s civilian deaths

    Monitoring group Airwars, in a new figures provided to The Daily Beast, estimated that the coalition has killed over 2,200 civilians in ISIS-held territory in Iraq and Syria between Trump's inauguration on January 20 and July 13. This represents more than 360 civilian deaths a month and at least 12 a day since he entered the White House.


    According to the coalition's figures, its strikes have killed 603 civilians since the beginning of the airstrike campaign against ISIS in 2014. Of those, Airwars estimates that around 40 percent of them came after Trump's inauguration, alluding to the possibility of a greater disregard for civilian life at a time when ISIS's hold on its self-styled caliphate is coming to an end.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/trum...vilian-deaths/

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    So the UAE and it's allies, like Trump's BFF Saudi Arabia, made up the whole story about Quatar according to US Intelligence. Which, is why Trump fell for it hook, line and sinker. It involves intelligence.



    UAE orchestrated hacking of Qatari government sites, sparking regional upheaval, according to U.S. intelligence officials


    The United Arab Emirates orchestrated the hacking of Qatari government news and social media sites in order to post incendiary false quotes attributed to Qatar’s emir, Sheikh Tamim Bin Hamad al-Thani, in late May that sparked the ongoing upheaval between Qatar and its neighbors, according to U.S. intelligence officials.


    Officials became aware last week that newly analyzed information gathered by U.S. intelligence agencies confirmed that on May 23, senior members of the UAE government discussed the plan and its implementation. The officials said it remains unclear whether the UAE carried out the hacks itself or contracted to have them done. The false reports said that the emir, among other things, had called Iran an “Islamic power” and praised Hamas.


    The hacks and posting took place on May 24, shortly after President Trump completed a lengthy counterterrorism meeting with Persian Gulf leaders in neighboring Saudi Arabia and declared them unified.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.9272d96a391a


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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Time to make more ISIS recruits.

    Trump’s ISIS war set to double Obama’s civilian deaths

    Monitoring group Airwars, in a new figures provided to The Daily Beast, estimated that the coalition has killed over 2,200 civilians in ISIS-held territory in Iraq and Syria between Trump's inauguration on January 20 and July 13. This represents more than 360 civilian deaths a month and at least 12 a day since he entered the White House.


    According to the coalition's figures, its strikes have killed 603 civilians since the beginning of the airstrike campaign against ISIS in 2014. Of those, Airwars estimates that around 40 percent of them came after Trump's inauguration, alluding to the possibility of a greater disregard for civilian life at a time when ISIS's hold on its self-styled caliphate is coming to an end.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/trum...vilian-deaths/
    The civilian death toll is terrible; however, during these battles Mosul has been liberated from ISIS control, over half a million Syrians have moved back home (and ceasefires are holding), and even Aleppo is rebuilding and holding concerts in celebration now that ISIS has been badly routed in these areas since Trump's Presidency:


    http://aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/25-...rations/863008

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...di-free-summer

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    Which was already well underway before Trump took over.

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    MSNBC calls out Trumps hypocrisy.


    MSNBC trolls Trump with brutal chyron during his big ‘Made in America’ speech


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    Quote Originally Posted by champking View Post
    Trumps popularity is only rising . Hes in tune with the middle class , regular folks who care about jobs the economy , immigration , borders . Fake news would tell you Clinton popularity was at 90%
    Do you have any source stats on that.] Don't get me wrong, I'm as amused by Trump as other people are but I'm not sure you just saying his popularity is rising is enough to convince people that it is.
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    http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump...-voters-635626



    A new poll from The Economist/YouGov released Wednesday showed that Trump’s base largely approves of the job he’s doing. Fifty-eight percent of people who voted for Trump in November “strongly approve” of the job he’s doing as president, according to the survey. Thirty percent of Trump voters “somewhat approve,” meaning 88 percent of folks who voted for the president have approved of his time in office to some degree.
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    Border Patrol union chief praises 'miraculous' drop in illegal immigration under Trump
    http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/bo...rticle/2628828

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    http://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump...-voters-635626



    A new poll from The Economist/YouGov released Wednesday showed that Trump’s base largely approves of the job he’s doing. Fifty-eight percent of people who voted for Trump in November “strongly approve” of the job he’s doing as president, according to the survey. Thirty percent of Trump voters “somewhat approve,” meaning 88 percent of folks who voted for the president have approved of his time in office to some degree.
    By any measure, even the stats that you posted, his support is weakening. Also, is the pool of Trump supports getting smaller? Your stats don't share that data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Trumpo is the least popular president in 70 years, and that rating keeps failing.
    Well the first six months or so are usually some of the best approval ratings for any President's term - the "honeymoon" period, where they can normally blame any problems on their predecessor and say they are working to fix them. Unfortunately for Trump, Obama left things in fairly good shape so not a lot of blame Trump can (credibly) put on his predecessor and also unfortunately for Trump he does not seem to be moving ahead in any coherent way to fix anything.

    I am thinking it probably gets even worse for Trump after the "honeymoon" period is over, which it almost is.

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    That poll was an ABC News Washington Post poll, which means it's pure propaganda.

    Remember, these are the exact same pollsters that told us right before the election that Hillary Clinton had a 12 point lead over Donald Trump, and were saying things like "No candidate has ever come back from this far behind."

    http://nypost.com/2016/10/23/clinton...against-trump/

    Polls cannot be taken seriously. Don't trust them.

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    And she's a big Trump fan. What a surprise. Of course, she's trying to weasel out of it by claiming "Nevertheless, Orrock repeated she did not want McCain to die, but rather that he just not be in the Senate, and said it would be reaching to say otherwise about her "People are going to read things into things," Orrock said"

    But her campaign page states right at the top "Diana Orrock for Nevada Assembly District 9 - A Candidate that Tells it Like it Is!"

    Nevada GOP official tweets article calling for McCain's death

    Diana Orrock, the Republican national committeewoman for Nevada, shared an article on Monday calling for the death of Sen. John McCain for his hawkish foreign policy views.


    "Amen," Orrock wrote in a now-deleted tweet sharing a post on Medium titled "Please Just F***ing Die Already."

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    The article's author made clear it was a literal call for McCain's death, saying at one point, "If you're waiting for the part where I say I'm just kidding and would never wish death on anybody, please allow me to make myself clear: I sincerely, genuinely hope that Arizona Senator John McCain's heart stops beating, and that he is subsequently declared dead by qualified medical professionals very soon."


    http://www.ktnv.com/news/national/ne...-mccains-death

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    Tonight Trump tweeted the following:

    "Republicans should just REPEAL failing ObamaCare now & work on a new Healthcare Plan that will start from a clean slate. Dems will join in!"

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/...34287350439936


    Right afterward, Mitch McConnell makes a statement to all Senate Republicans to vote to repeal Obamacare: http://i.magaimg.net/img/101s.jpg

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    How could Democrats join in when even many Republicans could not join the behind closed door meetings where the Bill was drafted?

    Get a grip on reality.

    The Republicans want a dictatorship without compromise or bipartisan support of healthcare that effects almost everyone in the country.

    And Trump wants to sign any healthcare Bill that comes across his desk. He does not care about the substance, he does not care about the consequences, he does not care about the 24 million whose lives are ruined without coverage and the millions that go broke trying to get healthcare. All he wants is the photo opportunity where he signs a piece of paper. How more shallow can he be? Trumpdon'tcare

    Meanwhile the Affordable Care Act is more popular than ever.
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    U.S. dollar sinks to 10-month low on Trump health care bill collapse
    http://www.bnn.ca/u-s-dollar-sinks-t...lapse-1.807312
    LONDON - The U.S. dollar sank to a 10-month low against a basket of major currencies on Tuesday, hit by the latest collapse of President Donald Trump's efforts to deliver a new health care bill in a market deeply worried by the pace of U.S. growth.The Australian dollar was by far the biggest beneficiary of another slide for the greenback, jumping 1.5 per cent to more than two-year highs after minutes from the Reserve Bank's last policy meeting showed it turning more upbeat on the economy.
    In four weeks dominated by expectations that by doubts over the Federal Reserve's ability to raise interest rates further, and signs that other major central banks are finally turning more hawkish, the dollar is now down more than 3 per cent.
    Since hitting a 14-year peak of 103.82 on Jan. 3, at 94.830 on Tuesday, the dollar index was down 8.8 per cent.
    "Clearly anything that comes along at the moment just corroborates the market's negative attitude on the dollar," said Neil Mellor, senior FX strategist with Bank of New York Mellon in London.
    Trump OWNS this one. In the past 6 months, his rudderless, lame duck Presidency has caused a worldwide a lack of confidence in the US.

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    Wall Street set to open lower on tepid earnings, policy gridlock

    (Reuters) - U.S. stocks looked set to open slightly lower on Tuesday, weighed down by earnings reports from some big names and concerns over President Donald Trump's ability to push through his pro-growth policies. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKBN1A313O

    Shares of Bank of America (BAC.N) slipped 0.3 percent, while Goldman Sachs (GS.N) was down 1.2 percent after reporting quarterly results.

    Last week, shares of JPMorgan (JPM.N), Wells Fargo (WFC.N) and Citigroup (C.N) had taken a beating after their quarterly results and forecasts failed to excite investors.

    Harley-Davidson (HOG.N) slumped 9.6 percent after the motorcycle maker cut its 2017 shipments forecast.

    The healthcare sector will be under scrutiny after the Republican healthcare bill to replace Obamacare sank in the Senate, with news that two Republican senators would not support the latest version of the bill.

    The healthcare bill failure spelled uncertainty for President Donald Trump's agenda of tax reform and an infrastructure overhaul, leaving the president without any major legislative accomplishments six months into his tenure.

    News on the healthcare bill sent the U.S. dollar .DXY to a 10-month low against a basket of major currencies.

    "Investor sentiment is pessimistic this morning," said Naeem Aslam, chief market analyst at Think Markets UK.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    By any measure, even the stats that you posted, his support is weakening. Also, is the pool of Trump supports getting smaller? Your stats don't share that data.
    Apologies, that's the most favourable poll I could find for Trump, with a weeeee uptick amongst his most loyal supporters.
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    Billions and billions and billions and billions and billions


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    I'm enjoying watching the American dollar sink relative to the loonie. And not only because I have some US-sourced purchases coming up.
    There can only be one.

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    ^ I know, I know.

    You hate Donald Trump SOOOO much, that you would rather enjoy seeing the entire population of the USA suffer with him as leader, than see him do a good job and improve things.

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    ^ So you hate Canada sooooooooo much that you want our economy weaker that the US?

    Make Canada Great Again!
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    Wall Street Journal thinks US tourism will increase under a Trump Presidency.


    'No Trump slump in tourism but there could be a Trump bump'

    Latest numbers from the U.S. Travel Association’s Travel Trends Index showed 6.6 percent growth in international travel to the U.S. in April and 5 percent growth in May compared with the same months last year. The Travel Trends Index uses hotel, airline and U.S. government data.

    Individual sectors have good news, too. Hotel occupancy for the first five months of 2017 was “higher than it has ever been before,” said Jan Freitag, senior vice president with STR, which tracks hotel industry data. American Express Meetings & Events has “not seen a slowdown in either domestic U.S. meetings or international meetings from the U.S. in the past six months,” according to senior vice president Issa Jouaneh. Even New York’s National September 11 Memorial and Museum has more international visitors: 554,381 at the museum Jan. 1-July 11, up from 517,539 the same period last year.
    https://www.wsj.com/articles/AP6b626...51263cc2fe17c4


    Some of the snowflakes I know on Facebook hate Donald Trump so much that they are cancelling vacation plans to the USA while he is President (which is the same silly thing I heard from these people while Dubya was president)

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    I know my friends that have been Canadian citizens since probably longer than MrOilers has been alive are not going to the states because they are originally from Yemen...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    ^ I know, I know.

    You hate Donald Trump SOOOO much, that you would rather enjoy seeing the entire population of the USA suffer with him as leader, than see him do a good job and improve things.
    You see, the thing here, is that Donald isn't doing a good job. In fact, his approval rating is one of the lowest ever for POTUS. I'd love for him to do a good job, and improve the USA, but he's doing exactly the opposite of that, much of it to the gain of Russia.

    Kill western free trade agreements, make NATO weaker, back off on syria, focus on North Korea, etc etc etc. Just about everything Trump does helps make Russia stronger as a result.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    By any measure, even the stats that you posted, his support is weakening. Also, is the pool of Trump supports getting smaller? Your stats don't share that data.
    Apologies, that's the most favourable poll I could find for Trump, with a weeeee uptick amongst his most loyal supporters.
    Thanks, I assumed it was. His loyal supporters still firmly believe Trumps whole Birther Conspiracy and they will faithfully go down with him as the USS Trump sinks to the bottom of the ocean.
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    The U S citizens had two terrible candidates to pick from in the last election. I do think Hillary Clinton is as wily as a fox. She has been in and around the political scene for so long she had the great advantage of learning how to cover her tracks and spin doctor her actions. After Obama I think a lot of U S voters thought Obama just phoned it in and the more disadvantage citizens had had enough. The Democrats got them nowhere and on top of that they hated Hillary. Trump burst on the scene like a broken piñata and ran a campaign that nobody had seen before in their lifetime. It's been an amusing and interesting ride for non U S citizens to be able to watch this spectacle from a distance. I'm sure the U S A will survive to the next election but how much damage or will be done by then or will it be in better shape.
    Time will tell but one think is for sure, the dems better start getting their act together and start thinking about who they are going to nurture to run as their candidate in the next election.
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    Yeah, she's so good at covering her tracks that the right haven't been able to pin anything on her in over thirty years! Sneaky!

    Meanwhile, Trump supporters continue to make America Great Again

    Colorado cops catch ‘proud to be fascist’ Trump supporter who clubbed woman and vandalized Jewish center

    William Scott Planer is the latest in the growing list of white supremacists who are vandalizing and attacking Jewish places of worship, cemeteries or schools across the United States.


    The Anti-Defamation League revealed that Planer was arrested July 14, 2017, after posting a sticker reading “Fight Terror, Nuke Israel” on the door of the Chabad Lubavitch Jewish Center in Colorado Springs.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/colo...jewish-center/


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Time will tell but one think is for sure, the dems better start getting their act together and start thinking about who they are going to nurture to run as their candidate in the next election.
    Yup. They don't seem to be trying to inspire anyone over to their side. And with the Dems defending 27 Senate seats compared to 8 Republicans, and with so many senators acting more afraid of their donors than the voters over the health care repeal/replace, the prospect of voters giving the Republicans a Senate supermajority in 2018 seems very plausible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Yeah, she's so good at covering her tracks that the right haven't been able to pin anything on her in over thirty years! Sneaky!

    Meanwhile, Trump supporters continue to make America Great Again

    Colorado cops catch ‘proud to be fascist’ Trump supporter who clubbed woman and vandalized Jewish center

    William Scott Planer is the latest in the growing list of white supremacists who are vandalizing and attacking Jewish places of worship, cemeteries or schools across the United States.


    The Anti-Defamation League revealed that Planer was arrested July 14, 2017, after posting a sticker reading “Fight Terror, Nuke Israel” on the door of the Chabad Lubavitch Jewish Center in Colorado Springs.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/colo...jewish-center/

    Nowhere in the article does it provide any evidence that this racist was a Trump supporter. They say that he was part of white supremacist groups, anti-Israel, and neo-Nazi movements for years.

    It looks like the writer put Trump's name in the headline to push her own agenda.

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    I guess the Republicans vote of Trump's Health Care Bill is going to be delayed because of John McCain's surgery. Of course McCain's surgery is another issue with the Republicans and McCain camp downplaying how serious it is. Why do these politicians hang onto their positions when at 80 they could be giving themselves a rest. I think a lot of them have such big ego's that they think they are the only ones running the joint.

    http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health...ightly-n783861
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Yeah, she's so good at covering her tracks that the right haven't been able to pin anything on her in over thirty years! Sneaky!

    Meanwhile, Trump supporters continue to make America Great Again

    Colorado cops catch ‘proud to be fascist’ Trump supporter who clubbed woman and vandalized Jewish center

    William Scott Planer is the latest in the growing list of white supremacists who are vandalizing and attacking Jewish places of worship, cemeteries or schools across the United States.


    The Anti-Defamation League revealed that Planer was arrested July 14, 2017, after posting a sticker reading “Fight Terror, Nuke Israel” on the door of the Chabad Lubavitch Jewish Center in Colorado Springs.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/colo...jewish-center/

    Nowhere in the article does it provide any evidence that this racist was a Trump supporter. They say that he was part of white supremacist groups, anti-Israel, and neo-Nazi movements for years.

    It looks like the writer put Trump's name in the headline to push her own agenda.
    Actually there are links to his activities.
    https://antifasac.noblogs.org/post/2...-rally-on-325/
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    The health bill is dead. Four Republicans have said they'll vote against it. That only gives them 48 votes in favour.

    Meanwhile, yet another person was at the meeting that Trump Jr. "forgot"

    Eighth Participant In Meeting With Trump Jr. Once Linked to Russian Money Laundering
    A US government probe found Ike Kaveladze’s firm helped move $1.4 billion in Russian and Eastern European money.

    On Tuesday the Washington Post identified Ike Kaveladze as the eighth attendee of a meeting Trump Jr., Kushner, and then-Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort held in expectation they would receive damaging information about Hillary Clinton as part of a Russian government effort to boost Trump’s candidacy. The other participants in the meeting included Natalia Veselnitskaya, a Russian lawyer with ties to the Kremlin, and Rinat Akhmetshin, a former Soviet counterintelligence operative now working as lobbyist in the United States.

    http://www.motherjones.com/politics/...ey-laundering/
    Meanwhile, the Wall Street Journal (a publication known for the obvious liberal bent, has had enough of Trump's lies.

    ‘Don’t you get it, guys?’: WSJ eviscerates ‘oblivious’ Trump over Russia scandal in devastating editorial

    Writing, “Mr. Trump will probably ignore this advice,” the editors concluded, “Mr. Trump somehow seems to believe that his outsize personality and social-media following make him larger than the Presidency. He’s wrong. He and his family seem oblivious to the brutal realities of Washington politics. Those realities will destroy Mr. Trump, his family and their business reputation unless they change their strategy toward the Russia probe. They don’t have much more time to do it.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/07/dont...ing-editorial/

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