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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    The troll game is strong, the facts are alternative, and just wow. I'm sorry I even waded into this thread.
    Something about US Politics discussion in particular that seems to lead to the kinds of comments found in this thread. But its not isolated either and both sides doing it. Are we really so invested in US Politics to insult each other as users of C2E?
    Nah some people are just sick of watching the repeated middle school antics of Trump bashers in here getting off on irrational hate ,and having a orgy of MSM left bias pushing
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    New York Times today is calling Trump mentally-ill:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/is-it-time-to-call-trump-mentally-ill.html



    Nope, no bias there. No sir.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Yeah, there's no news media bias. It's all imaginary. I mean, take a look at what MSNBC chose to report on:
    Tell me where the bias is on this unfiltered news conference?

    Specifically on what I watched on my TV.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    New York Times today is calling Trump mentally-ill:

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/17/opinion/is-it-time-to-call-trump-mentally-ill.html



    Nope, no bias there. No sir.
    Funny part is liberals relish in this type of hate pretending to believe it like it's a victory for them even though they lost . That's all they have left bashing and hate cause they're losers .
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    while the talk of biases is interesting, it's the alliances that are becoming even more fascinating...

    the cia wanted to execute snowden for treason for whistleblowing in contravention of their version of democracy and decried the media's participation in distributing the leaks. now they are using a combination of whistleblowing and withholding information from the executive branch to further their version of democracy and relying on the media for support.

    the very existence of the cia was often an anethema to the media irrespective of specific tactics. now the cia is considered almost an ally with a common enemy.

    yes, the common enemy is a mysogenistic, myopic, shallow wannabee orange who deserves a spoiled ballot rather than a vote but when both "sides" start to believe the ends justify the means is when trouble starts to be unavoidable.
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    Watch what the "Real News" on Fox stated about Trump

    See the video from the 1:30 to 2:00 minute mark



    ROFLMAO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Yeah, there's no news media bias. It's all imaginary. I mean, take a look at what MSNBC chose to report on:
    Tell me where the bias is on this unfiltered news conference?

    They kept trying to set him up with the phony Russian conspiracy story. Or did you not notice that pattern?

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    OMG Trump is going off the deep end here rounding up people for deportation. I know its not the same as Kristallnacht but there are haunting parallels here. Scary. Granted Obama deported a lot of people to but nothing like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by buildthemhigh View Post
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    The troll game is strong, the facts are alternative, and just wow. I'm sorry I even waded into this thread.
    Something about US Politics discussion in particular that seems to lead to the kinds of comments found in this thread. But its not isolated either and both sides doing it. Are we really so invested in US Politics to insult each other as users of C2E?
    Nah some people are just sick of watching the repeated middle school antics of Trump bashers in here getting off on irrational hate ,and having a orgy of MSM left bias pushing
    I'm trying to be Switzerland in the thread. I don't know how much I'll pull that off. I should go out through the in door quick.

    edit; I should run, I should run, I SHOULD RUN right out of this thread before its too late..
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    OMG Trump is going off the deep end here rounding up people for deportation. I know its not the same asKristallnacht but there are haunting parallels here. Scary. Granted Obama deported a lot of people to but nothing like this.
    OH NO! You have invoked the Godwin Law. (see in bold)

    Now this thread will go even more crazy. As in crazy as a President.
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    And here is Nancy Pelosi pushing the Russian bs from a fake tweet lol Now this lady is pure entertainment
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    Did you know that Wolf Blitzer is actually not a wolf?

    That lying press!

    Fake News!, Fake News!, Fake News!, Fake News!,

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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    OMG Trump is going off the deep end here rounding up people for deportation. I know its not the same as Kristallnacht but there are haunting parallels here. Scary. Granted Obama deported a lot of people to but nothing like this.

    What are you talking about?

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    The Trump administration considered a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.
    http://www.nbc-2.com/story/34531425/trump-considers-calling-up-natl-guard-for-immigration-roundups
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    if you believe that the Associated Press memo is truthful in any way, you are a sucker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    The Trump administration considered a proposal to mobilize as many as 100,000 National Guard troops to round up unauthorized immigrants, including millions living nowhere near the Mexico border, according to a draft memo obtained by The Associated Press.
    http://www.nbc-2.com/story/34531425/trump-considers-calling-up-natl-guard-for-immigration-roundups
    Sounds like a phony order to smoke out the leakers ,
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    White House and DHS both say that order is false. It's entirely possible that fake order was given on purpose to identify who was leaking classified info. If so, it's brilliant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    White House and DHS both say that order is false. It's entirely possible that fake order was given on purpose to identify who was leaking classified info. If so, it's brilliant.
    How common a strategy is this for smoking out leakers?

    Because to me, it seems a little like a guy telling his friends that he's a child-molestor, just to see who spreads the false rumour. I guess it would be effective in finding out who the gossip-mongers are. On the other hand, it makes it kinda hard for his allies to defend him against the charge of being a child-molestor, since he was the one going around saying it in the first place.

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    I never said I believed it. The jury is still out...

    Although I may comment on it or quote it, that does not mean I believe every word. Like any information I receive, I study it and look for verification from many sources. Others I look forward to more details and an investigation of the evidence. Posting it on C2E lets other look at it and I enjoy balanced feedback to see if it is true.

    All you have to look at is such statements by POTUS; Trump says he runs a ‘fine-tuned machine.’

    Here is Snopes

    http://www.snopes.com/2017/02/17/whi...ational-guard/

    At this point, it is a rumor and there are denials from the White House but that does not confirm if it is false or true. Believing it is false simply because Sean Spicer says it is false, with his track record, is not proof. The jury is still out...
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    Great rally at south Carolina today..!

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    counterpoint

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    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    White House and DHS both say that order is false. It's entirely possible that fake order was given on purpose to identify who was leaking classified info. If so, it's brilliant.
    How common a strategy is this for smoking out leakers?

    Because to me, it seems a little like a guy telling his friends that he's a child-molestor, just to see who spreads the false rumour. I guess it would be effective in finding out who the gossip-mongers are. On the other hand, it makes it kinda hard for his allies to defend him against the charge of being a child-molestor, since he was the one going around saying it in the first place.
    First, I believe it was a draft memo, not an order ("fake" or otherwise). I gather it was something that was considered - perhaps after further consideration (or maybe right after it was released) it was decided not to do it.

    Second, I agree it is possible it was released to identify a leaker. However, this would only work well if there was only one person who saw the document and there is only one leaker. If several people saw the document it would also cast suspicion on a number of innocent people and if there were multiple leakers it wouldn't necessarily stop the leaks either. It could just end up further fostering a culture of paranioa and making the White House organization even more dysfunctional.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Here is Snopes
    That's not a very credible source - the guy was caught embezzling something like $98,000 and spent it all on prostitutes. He left his wife (the other "half' of the Snopes team) to be in a relationship with a washed-up ex-porn star. Dishonest slimeball.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Second, I agree it is possible it was released to identify a leaker. However, this would only work well if there was only one person who saw the document and there is only one leaker.
    It would work if each memo was given in confidence, and each had a different number of National Guard troops (E.g. one says 100,000; another says 90,000; 50,000, etc.). Just look to see which number the media reports, and you know who it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Yeah, there's no news media bias. It's all imaginary. I mean, take a look at what MSNBC chose to report on:

    I think it's rather appalling that media takes a stance on democratic politics. Like the Edmonton Journal, Globe and Mail and others picking sides in our elections. These are business entities above all else, and they are run by people in autocratic functions so even if their opinion is determined by a vote, there's a good chance that the votes aren't honestly made but satisfy the excutives. Employees will vote for self-preservation.

    Moreover, more and more "news" production, like that of CNN, Fox, etc. is panel discussions and other opinion pieces because many facts are boring by themselves and don't attract eyes and advertising so everything in the media organizations seems to be evolving towards hiring charismatic, spin masters that subtly direct conversations and the typical grandstanding in one direction or another. A great example is business reporting. Once the dullest of the dull topics that I consumed regularly, when equity markets in the 1990s and 2000s took off, business reporting attracted guys like Cramer and all those business interviewers that seek more to entertain than inform.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by overoceans View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    White House and DHS both say that order is false. It's entirely possible that fake order was given on purpose to identify who was leaking classified info. If so, it's brilliant.
    How common a strategy is this for smoking out leakers?

    Because to me, it seems a little like a guy telling his friends that he's a child-molestor, just to see who spreads the false rumour. I guess it would be effective in finding out who the gossip-mongers are. On the other hand, it makes it kinda hard for his allies to defend him against the charge of being a child-molestor, since he was the one going around saying it in the first place.
    First, I believe it was a draft memo, not an order ("fake" or otherwise). I gather it was something that was considered - perhaps after further consideration (or maybe right after it was released) it was decided not to do it.

    Second, I agree it is possible it was released to identify a leaker. However, this would only work well if there was only one person who saw the document and there is only one leaker. If several people saw the document it would also cast suspicion on a number of innocent people and if there were multiple leakers it wouldn't necessarily stop the leaks either. It could just end up further fostering a culture of paranioa and making the White House organization even more dysfunctional.
    Hey, in North Korea they apparently round up the whole family.

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    Donald Trump said 17 false things at press conference where he called media ‘dishonest’
    In a whirlwind hour-and-a-half in front of reporters, Trump made his largest number of false claims of any day in his presidency so far.
    https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2...dishonest.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    while the talk of biases is interesting, it's the alliances that are becoming even more fascinating...

    the cia wanted to execute snowden for treason for whistleblowing in contravention of their version of democracy and decried the media's participation in distributing the leaks. now they are using a combination of whistleblowing and withholding information from the executive branch to further their version of democracy and relying on the media for support.

    the very existence of the cia was often an anethema to the media irrespective of specific tactics. now the cia is considered almost an ally with a common enemy.

    yes, the common enemy is a mysogenistic, myopic, shallow wannabee orange who deserves a spoiled ballot rather than a vote but when both "sides" start to believe the ends justify the means is when trouble starts to be unavoidable.
    Except it's not new. Remember the outing of Valerie Plame. Someone should have been executed for that.

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    Thanks for that noodle. 17 lies in 77 minutes.

    Does he take a breath between lies?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Thanks for that noodle. 17 lies in 77 minutes.

    Does he take a breath between lies?
    http://www.newyorker.com/news/ryan-l...needs-an-enemy

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Here is Snopes
    That's not a very credible source - the guy was caught embezzling something like $98,000 and spent it all on prostitutes. He left his wife (the other "half' of the Snopes team) to be in a relationship with a washed-up ex-porn star. Dishonest slimeball.
    Yeah, he pales by comparison to Trump...

    People in glass houses...
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    In the news

    US intel community 'ready to go nuclear' against Donald Trump over Russia ties, claims former NSA analyst
    US President 'will die in jail,' says former National Security Agency employee, John Schindler
    Harriet Agerholm
    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/wo...-a7585926.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by buildthemhigh View Post
    What's his point? I think he was born yesterday.

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    Edit: way late and out of context.
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    FOX NEWS

    Fox News’s Shepard Smith blasts Trump’s “fake news” attacks on CNN
    Smith argued that, on Russia, “We’re not fools for asking these questions. And we demand to know the answer to this question.”
    Updated by German [email protected]@vox.com
    It’s crazy what we’re watching every day. It’s absolutely crazy. He keeps repeating ridiculous throwaway lines that are not true at all and sort of avoiding this issue of Russia as if we’re some kind of fools for asking the question. Really? Your opposition was hacked, and the Russians were responsible for it, and your people were on the phone with Russia on the same day it was happening, and we’re fools for asking the questions?

    No, sir. We’re not fools for asking these questions. And we demand to know the answer to this question. You owe this to the American people. Your supporters will support you either way. If your people were on the phone with her, what were they saying? We have a right to know. We absolutely do.

    And that you call us “fake news” and put us down like children for asking these questions on behalf of the American people is inconsequential. The people deserve that answer at very least.
    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...h-trump-russia
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    I see Trump has Ret. Lt. Gen. Keith Kellogg on his short list for the NSA job. Hopefully he's not an ultimate flake although he looks like he's trying to be a fraidy pants in this photo. That or someone's just opened the toilet door on the plane. http://www.sfgate.com/nation/article...4-10941038.php

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    Court proves that CNN reports Fake News - CNN falsely claimed a hospital had three times the mortality rate of other hospitals (link includes article and a PDF of the judge's order - says that CNN "may have acted with actual malice"):

    http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/hos...lse-reporting/
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    So are you saying that a few instances of the thousands they publish, makes all MSM stories fake?
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    Of course not. That would be silly.

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    Glad that we agree.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Court proves that CNN reports Fake News - CNN falsely claimed a hospital had three times the mortality rate of other hospitals (link includes article and a PDF of the judge's order - says that CNN "may have acted with actual malice"):

    http://lawnewz.com/uncategorized/hos...lse-reporting/
    From that article:

    "Wood says that as a result of CNN’s story Carbone lost his job and it became extremely difficult for him to find new employment in the field of hospital administration."

    So what does this say about those on the board overseeing him that actually fired him and all those in HR departments? Makes those that should be most in the know look like idiots too.

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    With this 24 hour news cycle, the news has become somewhat of a joke.We thought this long before Trump btw. The news, when you look back was the news being reported. I enjoyed that. Now they want to be part of the story, swaying voters etc. I can't explain it very well, but it isn't news I care to watch.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    With this 24 hour news cycle, the news has become somewhat of a joke.
    They aren't accountable. They just report whatever the hell they want, frame opinions as facts, and basically don't give a damn about accuracy or credibility. I've said this before, but the major media outlets have pretty much - at this point - just become blogs for their Billionaire owners.

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    Well you can tell Old Orange what you think about the media now:

    https://action.donaldjtrump.com/mainstream-media-accountability-survey/


    Any old zip code can reply.

    Revel in his unbiased earnestness in wanting to know your honest opinion.

    If you give your email address you'll likely be bombarded with spam wanting you to

    go the extra mile and make a contribution to help defend our movement from the outrageous attacks from the media coming our way.
    I gave a real address I use when I have to, to see what I get.

    It's quite possible that if you don't contribute, or answer the "right" way, your feedback will be treated as Fake News and be tossed.

    I stopped at making a contribution.
    I feel in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Yeah, there's no news media bias. It's all imaginary. I mean, take a look at what MSNBC chose to report on:

    I think it's rather appalling that media takes a stance on democratic politics. Like the Edmonton Journal, Globe and Mail and others picking sides in our elections. These are business entities above all else, and they are run by people in autocratic functions so even if their opinion is determined by a vote, there's a good chance that the votes aren't honestly made but satisfy the excutives. Employees will vote for self-preservation.

    Moreover, more and more "news" production, like that of CNN, Fox, etc. is panel discussions and other opinion pieces because many facts are boring by themselves and don't attract eyes and advertising so everything in the media organizations seems to be evolving towards hiring charismatic, spin masters that subtly direct conversations and the typical grandstanding in one direction or another. A great example is business reporting. Once the dullest of the dull topics that I consumed regularly, when equity markets in the 1990s and 2000s took off, business reporting attracted guys like Cramer and all those business interviewers that seek more to entertain than inform.
    Hey, that's totally unfair. Trump picked up at least one media endorsement.


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    Trump's Border Wall Could Save Americans Nearly $64 Billion Over 10 Years

    Feb 18, 2017

    A new Center for Immigration Studies report suggests that President Donald Trump's wall along the U.S.-Mexico border could save Americans nearly $64 billion over the next 10 years if it stops half of all expected undocumented immigrants.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/1...mp-border-wall

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    He must be getting a desperate now to bring up Hillary.
    No, he only brought it up to point out the hypocrisy of the media. They were constantly attacking him for having alleged "ties to Russia", and he merely asked why they were silent when Hillary sold 20% of US uranium to Russia, and why they demonize him for wanting to "get along" with Russia, when Hillary did the same thing.

    And he is absolutely right.
    No, he is not. Hillary did not sell 20% of American uranium to Russia. A Russian company bought a Canadian company that had holding in American Uranium mines. Also,

    1 - The mines, mills, and land the company holds in the US account for 20 percent of the US’s uranium production capacity, not actual produced uranium.

    2 - The State Department was one of nine federal agencies and a number of additional independent federal and state regulators that signed off on the deal.
    President Obama, not Secretary Clinton, was the only person who could’ve vetoed the deal.


    3 - Since Russia doesn’t have the legal right to export uranium out of the US, its main goal was likely to gain access to the company’s uranium assets in Kazakhstan.


    4 - Crucially, the main national security concern was not about nuclear weapons proliferation, as Trump suggests, but actually ensuring the US doesn’t have to depend too much on uranium sources from abroad, as the US only makes about 20 percent of the uranium it needs. An advantage in making nuclear weapons wasn’t the main issue because, as PolitiFact notes, “the United States and Russia had for years cooperated on that front, with Russia sending enriched fuel from decommissioned warheads to be used in American nuclear power plants in return for raw uranium.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post
    Trump's Border Wall Could Save Americans Nearly $64 Billion Over 10 Years

    Feb 18, 2017

    A new Center for Immigration Studies report suggests that President Donald Trump's wall along the U.S.-Mexico border could save Americans nearly $64 billion over the next 10 years if it stops half of all expected undocumented immigrants.
    http://insider.foxnews.com/2017/02/1...mp-border-wall
    Remember, that's an anti-immigration organization.
    I feel in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    With this 24 hour news cycle, the news has become somewhat of a joke.
    They aren't accountable. They just report whatever the hell they want, frame opinions as facts, and basically don't give a damn about accuracy or credibility. I've said this before, but the major media outlets have pretty much - at this point - just become blogs for their Billionaire owners.
    And become political activists instead of reporting the news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Hillary did not sell 20% of American uranium to Russia.
    Sorry, Trump's mistake - it was Obama who sold 20% of US uranium capacity to Russia.

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    TO my American friends:
    For gawd sake, take back your federal government and global reputation before this goof irreparably damages them. This has gotten completely out of hand, and has become dangerous to everybody, everywhere.
    Russia is off your coastline, within your coastal territory, with impunity. NK is threatening Japan (and indirectly USA) with nukes, real or imagined, with impunity. Your President is regularly babbling incoherently on international media and is focused on media bias and his daughter's business interests as his top priorities. Your "top government advisors" are jumping ship or being fired at an alarming rate.
    Your enemies can hardly believe their good luck - an ***** is in charge, and the citizenry appears paralyzed with confusion and division.
    This is no longer funny or entertaining.
    You have legal provisions in your constitution and justice system to fix a mistake this monumental and destructive. The world will not mock you for backtracking and allowing a do-over.
    Please. Act. Act now.
    I'm having people over later to stare at their phones,if you want to drop by

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    Wow. Trump's opponents sure like to sow fear and panic into everyone, don't they?

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    The polls say Trump support is dwindling and down to less than 30%. Haha reminds me of before the election. Same pollsters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by buildthemhigh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    With this 24 hour news cycle, the news has become somewhat of a joke.
    They aren't accountable. They just report whatever the hell they want, frame opinions as facts, and basically don't give a damn about accuracy or credibility. I've said this before, but the major media outlets have pretty much - at this point - just become blogs for their Billionaire owners.
    And become political activists instead of reporting the news.
    Exactly, but they are all the public has at the moment and are far superior 'reporters' compared to the left and right wing and other fanatical interest group sites that might get the odd fact correct but otherwise just spin information and act like simpletons and propagandists for their respective ideologies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    The polls say Trump support is dwindling and down to less than 30%. Haha reminds me of before the election. Same pollsters.
    As I posted prior to the US election: ignore all polls. No one answers their phones anymore so the pollsters only reach a minuscule percentage of the population. For all we know, Trump is the most popular president in history.

    Basically, no matter how low Trump's real popularity is, the pollsters' popularity is much lower.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Barry N View Post
    TO my American friends:
    For gawd sake, take back your federal government and global reputation before this goof irreparably damages them. This has gotten completely out of hand, and has become dangerous to everybody, everywhere.
    Russia is off your coastline, within your coastal territory, with impunity. NK is threatening Japan (and indirectly USA) with nukes, real or imagined, with impunity. Your President is regularly babbling incoherently on international media and is focused on media bias and his daughter's business interests as his top priorities. Your "top government advisors" are jumping ship or being fired at an alarming rate.
    Your enemies can hardly believe their good luck - an ***** is in charge, and the citizenry appears paralyzed with confusion and division.
    This is no longer funny or entertaining.
    You have legal provisions in your constitution and justice system to fix a mistake this monumental and destructive. The world will not mock you for backtracking and allowing a do-over.
    Please. Act. Act now.
    Just wondering if anyone considers any of what BarryN has listed is fake. It seems like a fairly accurate list to me.
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    The news is unbelievable. After CBS publishes a fake news report saying Trump yelled at Pompeo (without bothering to ask anyone involved if it's real), everyone involved tell CBS it's fake. CBS in continuing to push this fake story with a fake headline AFTER being informed it's fake.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ye...tion-from-him/

    No retraction, no correction, nothing. What a bunch of liars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Drumbones View Post
    The polls say Trump support is dwindling and down to less than 30%. Haha reminds me of before the election. Same pollsters.
    As I posted prior to the US election: ignore all polls. No one answers their phones anymore so the pollsters only reach a minuscule percentage of the population. For all we know, Trump is the most popular president in history.

    Basically, no matter how low Trump's real popularity is, the pollsters' popularity is much lower.
    The polls may not be as accurate as they used to be, but the US election national vote totals were less than 5% off the actual result so I wouldn't totally dismiss polls. The big problem in the election seemed to be at the state level where the samples were smaller and in some states there were not many recent polls before the election. Even in many of these states the race was close too, so the swing was less than 5%.

    Assuming a 5% error in Trumps favor yes his popularity could be higher - say 35% instead of 30%. That's a bit better, but still very bad for a president in his first six months. There is usually over 50% support in the honeymoon period, even for President's who were in close races and won like 50%. If mainly Trump supporters are not answering the pollsters calls recently, it may be because many have a bit of buyers remorse now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The news is unbelievable. After CBS publishes a fake news report saying Trump yelled at Pompeo (without bothering to ask anyone involved if it's real), everyone involved tell CBS it's fake. CBS in continuing to push this fake story with a fake headline AFTER being informed it's fake.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ye...tion-from-him/

    No retraction, no correction, nothing. What a bunch of liars.
    How do they know these things? Well, like journalists always, they have their sources who they have to protect, especially now that Trump has threatened to get rid of leakers.

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    I think the polls (run by major media outlets) are all trying to push a narrative that Trump is unpopular.

    His speech today in Florida was just like his campaign rallies - thousands and thousands of enthusiastic people lined up for miles all day long to show their support for him. I highly doubt he has lost any support since the election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    The news is unbelievable. After CBS publishes a fake news report saying Trump yelled at Pompeo (without bothering to ask anyone involved if it's real), everyone involved tell CBS it's fake. CBS in continuing to push this fake story with a fake headline AFTER being informed it's fake.

    http://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-ye...tion-from-him/

    No retraction, no correction, nothing. What a bunch of liars.
    How do they know these things? Well, like journalists always, they have their sources who they have to protect, especially now that Trump has threatened to get rid of leakers.
    Personally, I think they look more and more like they are full of crap every day. What do they gain by telling the truth? They get more attention making up stories. They are getting as bad as the grocery stand tabloids.

    Trump's speech in Florida today was great where he quoted past presidents criticizing the false stories and propaganda in the newspapers back in the day. Just proved that some things never change.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I think the polls (run by major media outlets) are all trying to push a narrative that Trump is unpopular.

    His speech today in Florida was just like his campaign rallies - thousands and thousands of enthusiastic people lined up for miles all day long to show their support for him. I highly doubt he lost any support since the election.
    The 30% or 35% diehards will mostly stick with him regardless, they are a bit fanatical. Unlike during the election where there were many rallies in different places, this is the only one so it may draw people from across the state.

    For a new President, he seems to spend an inordinate amount of time in Florida golfing I thought he was supposed to be running the country now not campaigning. I suppose the crowds might boost his wounded ego a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    For a new President, he seems to spend an inordinate amount of time in Florida golfing

    He is holding meetings and conducting business at Mar A Lago because every time he does anything at the White House, confidential info gets leaked to the press.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Dave View Post
    For a new President, he seems to spend an inordinate amount of time in Florida golfing

    He is holding meetings and conducting business at Mar A Lago because every time he does anything at the White House, confidential info gets leaked to the press.
    The restaurant patio there does not seem to be the most secure location to have meetings about the North Koreans and their nuclear missiles. I suspect incognito North Korean agents have probably recently developed an interest in Florida vacations and are finding them quite useful as well as a nice winter get away.

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    Heck, he invited members of another one of his clubs to sit in on the meetings with potential cabinet picks. Audio excerpts at the link.

    Deep into the process of meeting potential Cabinet nominees, the president-elect invited partygoers to stop by the next day to join the excitement.

    “We’re doing a lot of interviews tomorrow — generals, dictators, we have everything,” Trump told the crowd, according to an audio tape of his closed-press remarks obtained by POLITICO from a source in the room. “You may wanna come around. It’ll be fun. We’re really working tomorrow. We have meetings every 15, 20 minutes with different people that will form our government."


    "We’re going to be interviewing everybody — Treasury, we’re going to be interviewing Secretary of State,” he continued. “We have everybody coming in — if you want to come around, it’s going to be unbelievable….so you might want to come along.”

    http://www.politico.com/story/2017/0...-guests-235161

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    Quote Originally Posted by buildthemhigh View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by hello lady View Post
    With this 24 hour news cycle, the news has become somewhat of a joke.
    They aren't accountable. They just report whatever the hell they want, frame opinions as facts, and basically don't give a damn about accuracy or credibility. I've said this before, but the major media outlets have pretty much - at this point - just become blogs for their Billionaire owners.
    And become political activists instead of reporting the news.
    So William Randolph Hearst was not a super rich media mogul with political interests?
    Come on now, this is not something new.
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    ^^^^
    What they have to gain is not being called out by the rest of the media.

    There is no monolithic conspiracy.

    There are fringe pundits on either side but there are still lots of real journalists out there who really want the truth told.
    There can only be one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Hillary did not sell 20% of American uranium to Russia.
    Sorry, Trump's mistake - it was Obama who sold 20% of US uranium capacity to Russia.
    Wrong again...
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    No retraction, no correction, nothing. What a bunch of liars.
    Are you talking about the 17 lies Trump spewed during his 77 minute press conference?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I think the polls (run by major media outlets) are all trying to push a narrative that Trump is unpopular.

    His speech today in Florida was just like his campaign rallies - thousands and thousands of enthusiastic people lined up for miles all day long to show their support for him. I highly doubt he has lost any support since the election.
    They get thousands of people at Iranian rallies too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Highlander II View Post
    ^^^^
    What they have to gain is not being called out by the rest of the media.

    There is no monolithic conspiracy.

    There are fringe pundits on either side but there are still lots of real journalists out there who really want the truth told.
    Including those at FOX news. Funny that no one commented about the post about Fox News’s Shepard Smith that made yesterday.

    Nor will any Trump supporter on this thread say anything about all the lies made by Trump in the press conference.

    If you are looking for the ultimate source of fake news, look no further than the mouth of this lying President.
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    I feel in no way entitled to your opinion...

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    Hey look, more "Alternative Facts!". It was probably committed by the same guys who pilled off the Bowling Green Massacre.


    Trump cites non-existent terrorist attack ‘last night in Sweden’ to justify Muslim ban at Florida rally

    In defending his executive order banning Islamic refugees and travelers from 7 Muslim-majority countries from entering the U.S., Trump said, “When you look at what’s happening in Germany, when you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden — Sweden! Who would believe this? Sweden!”“They took in large numbers, they’re having problems like they never like they never thought possible,” he went on.
    However, there was no terror attack in Sweden on Friday

    http://www.rawstory.com/2017/02/trum...florida-rally/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    I think the polls (run by major media outlets) are all trying to push a narrative that Trump is unpopular.

    His speech today in Florida was just like his campaign rallies - thousands and thousands of enthusiastic people lined up for miles all day long to show their support for him. I highly doubt he has lost any support since the election.
    They get thousands of people at Iranian rallies too.
    Who?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nor will any Trump supporter on this thread say anything about all the lies made by Trump in the press conference.
    Like what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Hillary did not sell 20% of American uranium to Russia.
    Sorry, Trump's mistake - it was Obama who sold 20% of US uranium capacity to Russia.
    Wrong again...
    Nope. That's what happened.

    Obama sold 20% of US uranium production capacity to Russia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kkozoriz View Post
    Hillary did not sell 20% of American uranium to Russia.
    Sorry, Trump's mistake - it was Obama who sold 20% of US uranium capacity to Russia.
    Wrong again...
    Nope. That's what happened.

    Obama sold 20% of US uranium production capacity to Russia.
    Source please
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    Look it up. Do I have to do everything for you?

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-journal...uranium-story/

    Yes,I know you will whine that it is a Brietbart article. However, it directly cites (and links) to the CNBC and Politifact articles that proclaim that Obama sold 20% of USA's uranium production capacity.

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    But that's not what Trump is claiming. He's saying that Hillary sold 20% of American Uranium to Russia. Which she did not in any way, shape or form.

    20% of potential capacity, not production. And they CANNOT export it out of the USA. So ca Russian company has the right to mine 20% or potential Uranium deposits in the US but they cannot send it to Russia or Canada or any other country.

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    MrOilers keeps changing his story. If he can't pin it on Hillary, the switches to Obama and then state that it was various players who all were in this massive conspiracy that involved a dozen departments and a Canadian company. It is the old shell game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Nor will any Trump supporter on this thread say anything about all the lies made by Trump in the press conference.
    Like what?
    Look it up. Do I have to do everything for you?
    The Toronto Star story was already posted here on this thread a couple of days before but you conveniently avoid the fact that Trump made 17 false statements in 77 minutes. Even if you can explain away 4 or 5, that still leaves a dozen lies in ONE press conference!


    The fact is that Trump cannot even get his electoral victory facts straight.
    Why was it even relative to the conference? The election os old news, months old. He brpught it up just to say how great he is and brow beat the press to bully them that he is superior. The old, I am losing in the real world so my best defense is to attack with fake facts, propaganda and a big lie full of distortions.

    First he says it was the largest electoral victory EVER!
    The reporter then said Obama had a bigger win
    Them Trump changes his statement and states that it was the biggest Republican electoral victory.
    The reporter corrects him again that Reagan and Bush had far larger victories and again supplied numbers.
    Then Trump argues that he read it somewhere and something that someone gave him as fact when we all know and he has been told often that it is NOT TRUE.

    This thin skinned liar will then go on to berate the press that they produce fake news when he is right and everyone else is wrong and his minions believe the crap that spews out of his mouth.

    Here is the reposted article detailing his false statements.



    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thes...ndroid-bell-ca
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    More fake info from Trump.

    Trump referring to a false incident in Sweden
    http://www.thelocal.se/20170219/swed...sweden-comment

    'Alls quiet on the Swedish front'

    Sleep well, people of Sweden. The boggey man is orange.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Trump referring to a false incident in Sweden
    http://www.thelocal.se/20170219/swed...sweden-comment
    That's fake news. Trump talked about what he saw happening in Sweden, but didn't refer to any specific incident, like the news is falsely reporting today.

    But that's what the crooked media wants - people who didn't watch the rally will think he lied about something. Watch the rally yourself, and you'll see he didn't refer to any "massacre" or "terror attack" in Sweden. The media is lying once again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Here is the reposted article detailing his false statements.

    https://www.google.ca/amp/s/www.thes...ndroid-bell-ca
    Oh, please. His message, in every example, is on point.

    Just because Trump isn't like Obama - you know, his staffers collecting all the press questions in advance then answering them as they are written on teleprompter, they take the opportunity to nitpick every off-the-cuff remark and metaphor while answering unexpected questions.

    It's the same smear tactic they've been doing since he first started running, and is exactly why he bashes the media and why so many people mistrust reporting now.

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    Give us all a break. He made a list of places of recent terror attacks and included some incident in Sweden that happened the night before.

    Even the former Prime Minister of Sweden thinks Trump is smoking something illegal

    Link https://www.google.ca/amp/www.indepe...476.html%3Famp
    including video
    The former Prime Minister of Sweden has asked “what has Donald Trump been smoking?” after the President alluded to a mystery recent attack in the country.

    Swedes reacted with general confusion after Mr Trump said "look what's happening last night in Sweden" after listing a series of past terror attacks in Europe, during a speech at a rally in Florida.

    Aftonbladet newspaper, a Swedish tabloid, listed some events that had happened in the country on that night, including police chasing a drunk driver, a man being treated for severe burns and an avalanche warning.
    Can you explain what incident in Sweden that Trump is referring to?

    Please help us understand what he said.
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    This is what Trump said: “Sweden. They took in large numbers. They’re having problems like they never thought possible." Which is true when you consider the no-go zones and mass increase in sexual assaults since they were flooded with refugees.

    Sweden's government are globalists and socialists who always opposed Trump and his Americanism, so it's no surprise they say bad things about him too.

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    No, you are taking it out of context.

    Please explain what happened the night before in Sweden. Trump was referring to a specific incident on a specific day.

    What was that incident?

    Did it involve bowling?
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    Funny how the news isn't reporting what 8 U.S. CODE § 1182 says (that Trump read) which clearly gives him authority for the Executive Order travel ban (and which the 9th Circuit court never cited once). I saw a comment on CNN where they said something about it in passing, and very vaguely, along the lines of "he thinks it gives him authority".

    Instead they focus on Sweden, and talking about how nothing bad has happened there. Meanwhile, their heavily socialized and controlled police and news there has been covering up the riots, mobs torching cars, and rapes they've been plagued with constantly.

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    You did not answer the question.

    What happened in Sweden on Thursday night???
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    Here is the only big news media outlet I can find (Tucker Carlson on Fox Friday night) discussing the cover up of Sweden's violence and crime problems since taking in 200,000 people (most per capita of any European country). I bet this is what Trump saw "last night".

    It's only 5 minutes encourage you to watch it - it might make you think about how the left's propaganda is hiding what is really going on:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OSzjfAMk-RI

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    Are you saying that Sweden took in 200,000 refugees?

    Let me fact check that one. I will post my findings.

    So you do admit that Donald Trump was referring to an incident in Thursday night that NEVER HAPPENED.

    BTW
    Here are some facts checkling by the Washington Post on Trumps inaccurate claims on Friday night.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0ad7253b2166
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    Sweden's own government stats from show a big spike in sexual assaults in 2015: http://www.bra.se/bra/brott-och-stat...xualbrott.html


    I am glad he mentioned it because I suspect Trump's comments will get people to look at Sweden's migrant problems (which they have done a great job at hiding) a little closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    So you do admit that Donald Trump was referring to an incident in Thursday night that NEVER HAPPENED.
    No, I don't admit that. Where did he say "Thursday night"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Here are some facts checkling by the Washington Post on Trumps inaccurate claims on Friday night.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...=.0ad7253b2166
    Sorry, I don't trust the Washington Post's alternative facts. That outlet is owned by a billionaire globalist that does hundreds of millions of dollars worth of contracts with his other venture (Amazon) the CIA.

    The WaPo has been on a 100% smear campaign against Trump since the beginning. Half of those points they raised in this article, they claim are "false" because Trump was exaggerating.

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    Actually, Sweden has has 200,000 applications for refugee status but only about 55 percent are successful so the true number is about half that. Another FOX news distortion.

    Sweden is lowering it's estimates for 2017 refugee claimants

    http://www.thelocal.se/20170207/swed...recast-further
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    You can see the video here. And what he said was :


    “We’ve got to keep our country safe. You look at what’s happening in Germany, you look at what’s happening last night in Sweden. Sweden, who would believe this?”

    https://www.nytimes.com/2017/02/19/w...tion.html?_r=0

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    So you do admit that Donald Trump was referring to an incident in Thursday night that NEVER HAPPENED.
    No, I don't admit that. Where did he say "Thursday night"?
    Don't play stupid.

    Trump said this on Friday about an incident in Sweden the night before.


    Mr Trump said "look what's happening last night in Sweden" after listing a series of past terror attacks in Europe, during a speech at a rally in Florida.
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    Here is an article quoting Trump's comments, with a link to the original transcript.

    While his use of the continous tense might make it sound like he was dicussing an ongoing situatiton, he did in fact say "...last night in Sweden", which seems to indicate that he thought there had been a particular incident the night before.

    EDIT: Cross-posted with kkooriz.
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