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Thread: When Trump loses the election, what will happen to the Republicans and the right wing?

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    Default When Trump loses the election, what will happen to the Republicans and the right wing?

    In my opinion, Trump will walk away and start a media network.

    What will happen with the Republicans?
    How many will lie and state that they never endorsed Trump?

    Will the alt-right and Tea Party ( there is a term we have not heard from in months ) and other right wing extremists start their own party or take over the GOP?

    Begin arguing now.
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    If the Republicans are serious about ever winning an election again, they'll do some deep soul searching and start a rapid restructuring that distances themselves from fringe evangelicals, FOX news and its 24/7 fear mongering, and focus on creating centre-right policy that upholds their beliefs in capitalism, small government, and freedom of the individual. This will mean they will have to change their stance on abortion and homosexuality, find a healthcare platform that satisfies the individual's need for affordable universal coverage within a private system, and a nationwide restructuring of law enforcement that ends the mass incarceration of, well, everybody.

    That's my opinion anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chmilz View Post
    If the Republicans are serious about ever winning an election again, they'll do some deep soul searching and start a rapid restructuring that distances themselves from fringe evangelicals, FOX news and its 24/7 fear mongering, and focus on creating centre-right policy that upholds their beliefs in capitalism, small government, and freedom of the individual.
    Given how unpopular Clinton is the 2020 election is probably quite winnable for the GOP especially if they are able to maintain control of Congress and oppose Hilary with the same degree of gridlock that they imposed on Obama. Also election results are heavily dependent on voter turnout so if Clinton has a lackluster presidency discontent and apathy may suppress the level of support she would receive.
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    Any election is inherently "quite winnable" in the US, considering it's essentially a two-party system. If they put a up candidate that isn't a total goon of course they have a chance, and it has nothing to do with Clinton.
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    It's funny that the Wikileaks playbooks in the Hillary campaign emails show that the Democrat plan to beat Donald Trump is exactly this:

    1. Oversample polls to make it appear like Hillary has an unbeatable lead (i.e. ask higher proportions of blacks, latinos, registered democrats, etc.)
    2. Use these numbers and the media to discourage Trump supporters
    3. Declare the election "won" (which is how they are campaigning right now)


    The stories on the site below are usually suspect, but this short article links to other stories commenting on this strategy leaked in Wikileaks emails:
    http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2016...ring-election/

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    It would be interesting to see the RNC and Trump playbooks as well...
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    What a silly thread - why not start one, what will happen to the Democrats if Trump wins? The Republicans and Democrats are obviously going to continue fighting elections, as they have for hundreds of years. Sometimes the electorate will swing left (Democrat), sometimes it will swing right (Republican). The idea that the American people are going to wake up one day and all decide that they are dedicated socialists for life, or capitalists for life, is more than a bit silly. The center will continue to move from one-side to other. I think if Hillary wins, the next Republican candidate will do extremely well, it will be a one term presidency. If Trump wins, I could see him getting the two terms.

    As to the fringe elements like the tea party, the Sanders / communist / envy politics element was every bit as disruptive as the tea party, actually more successful. That's normal, when its a two party state, each party will be quite broad and have extremists on both sides. The Democrats range from looney communists / socialists / unionists, to free market neo-liberals (Clinton). The Republicans range from Christian social conservatives (tea party) / neo conservatives, fiscal conservative / libertarians, to protectionist interventionist capitalists (Trump). Candidates on both parties will swing respectively left or right to win the nomination depending on the States they need to win to get the nomination, then swing center to win the election. That's the way its always been, and that's the way it will remain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    It would be interesting to see the RNC and Trump playbooks as well...
    I agree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    What a silly thread - why not start one, what will happen to the Democrats if Trump wins? The Republicans and Democrats are obviously going to continue fighting elections, as they have for hundreds of years. Sometimes the electorate will swing left (Democrat), sometimes it will swing right (Republican). The idea that the American people are going to wake up one day and all decide that they are dedicated socialists for life, or capitalists for life, is more than a bit silly. The center will continue to move from one-side to other. I think if Hillary wins, the next Republican candidate will do extremely well, it will be a one term presidency. If Trump wins, I could see him getting the two terms.

    As to the fringe elements like the tea party, the Sanders / communist / envy politics element was every bit as disruptive as the tea party, actually more successful. That's normal, when its a two party state, each party will be quite broad and have extremists on both sides. The Democrats range from looney communists / socialists / unionists, to free market neo-liberals (Clinton). The Republicans range from Christian social conservatives (tea party) / neo conservatives, fiscal conservative / libertarians, to protectionist interventionist capitalists (Trump). Candidates on both parties will swing respectively left or right to win the nomination depending on the States they need to win to get the nomination, then swing center to win the election. That's the way its always been, and that's the way it will remain.
    This issue here is Democrats are fairly united behind Clinton at this point while the Republicans appear to be fragmenting. This large a split in one of the major parties is not an ordinary occurrence and it's fair to wonder how things will shake out after the election. With such a large split the question of which faction ends up in charge is quite interesting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
    This issue here is Democrats are fairly united behind Clinton at this point while the Republicans appear to be fragmenting.

    I don't think either of those statements are true.

    A lot of articles have been written and published this year stating that a high number of registered Democrat voters are voting for candidates other than Hillary Clinton (Trump could very well win the election the same way Reagan did - with registered Democrats voting for the other candidate). Also, it looks like the GOP is not fragmenting, but rather undergoing a change that they sorely needed back when Obama first became president - the vast majority of their members support Trump. They also gained over a million new members during the primaries who were inspired by Trump.

    No matter who wins, this election completely exposed and perpetuated a few issues that are going to influence the American voters for years to come: high-level corruption and cronyism, suspicion of rigged voting, mainstream media bias, and special interests against the wants of the people. All of these issues have been brought up before, but they have never been so completely exposed before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
    This issue here is Democrats are fairly united behind Clinton at this point while the Republicans appear to be fragmenting.

    I don't think either of those statements are true.

    A lot of articles have been written and published this year stating that a high number of registered Democrat voters are voting for candidates other than Hillary Clinton (Trump could very well win the election the same way Reagan did - with registered Democrats voting for the other candidate). Also, it looks like the GOP is not fragmenting, but rather undergoing a change that they sorely needed back when Obama first became president - the vast majority of their members support Trump. They also gained over a million new members during the primaries who were inspired by Trump.

    No matter who wins, this election completely exposed and perpetuated a few issues that are going to influence the American voters for years to come: high-level corruption and cronyism, suspicion of rigged voting, mainstream media bias, and special interests against the wants of the people. All of these issues have been brought up before, but they have never been so completely exposed before.
    I think it would make sense to have this question-thread from a Clinton perspective too. If Trump wins, I wouldn't be surprised by an extreme reaction. Moreover I would guess that over the course of his term(s) the secret service might have greater issues with a Trump win that a Clinton win.

    Both though may be stronger than usual candidates for assassination though (who knows what triggers the nut cases or political enemies) so the potential VPs maybe deserve more attention in this election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    I think it would make sense to have this question-thread from a Clinton perspective too. If Trump wins, I wouldn't be surprised by an extreme reaction.
    No question. I think a Trump win would be a lot like the Brexit result, where the media acts completely shocked, and many mainstream commentators and billionaires will actually refuse to accept the result, immediately devising ways to overturn it.

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    Yeah, and to carry your analogy further, in that example, it would be quite likely that Trump would also perform about as well post election as the UK Independence Party has post referendum, with literally fist fights between leadership candidates resulting in hospitalizations, people resigning left right and center, and no one really knowing what the hell to do with the car now that the dog caught it. Whoops, mixing my metaphors, here.

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    Some pains always come with big changes.

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