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    Default U.S. regulator found another cheat device in Audi car: report

    Brutal:

    Bild am Sonntag said the software discovered by CARB, which was installed in vehicles with certain automatic transmissions, detected whether a car's steering wheel was turned.

    If it was not, indicating laboratory testing conditions, the software turned on a gear-shifting program which produced less carbon dioxide than in normal road driving. If the wheel was turned in any direction by more than 15 degrees, the program was switched off, the paper said.

    Audi stopped using the software in May 2016, just before CARB discovered the manipulation in an older model, the paper said, adding that the carmaker had suspended several engineers in connection with the matter.
    http://ca.reuters.com/article/busine.../idCAKBN1300V7

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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    Brutal:

    Bild am Sonntag said the software discovered by CARB, which was installed in vehicles with certain automatic transmissions, detected whether a car's steering wheel was turned.

    If it was not, indicating laboratory testing conditions, the software turned on a gear-shifting program which produced less carbon dioxide than in normal road driving. If the wheel was turned in any direction by more than 15 degrees, the program was switched off, the paper said.

    Audi stopped using the software in May 2016, just before CARB discovered the manipulation in an older model, the paper said, adding that the carmaker had suspended several engineers in connection with the matter.
    http://ca.reuters.com/article/busine.../idCAKBN1300V7
    Hmm. So what do we replace our TDI with? (Too bad. Love the distance and time it can go between fills.)

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    Sounds like spin to me (see below). As if they care. Or is it all they care about is greenhouse gases and not other pollution, hence the diesel emissions cheating?

    I figure electric just isn't good enough yet:

    Volkswagen’s Atlas Strategy: Plug the Hole Now, Worry About Choice Later
    By Steph Willems on November 12, 2016


    “This is a thing we are still discussing, Erb said. “At the moment, the plug-in is not so very attractive to us because of the upstream emissions (greenhouse gasses produced in the generation of electricity).”

    He added, “We really don’t know how attractive those cars are anymore because the CO2 balance is not much better than the balance of (conventional) hybrid vehicles.”


    http://www.thetruthaboutcars.com/201...-choice-later/
    Also, their big new station wagon ( VW Atlas ) just looks like a Ford Explorer to me.
    Last edited by KC; 13-11-2016 at 10:19 AM.

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    Looks like the air we breath may actually start getting cleaner or not getting dirtier as fast as it has been - with the reality finally matching the perception.

    U.S. government accuses Fiat Chrysler of cheating on emissions

    http://www.ctvnews.ca/autos/u-s-gove...ions-1.3238205

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    I believe VW / Audi / Porsche is getting out of producing diesels as well. That should hurt the values in the future as well.


    Volkswagen settlements move ahead, but some owners 'totally up in the air' - Business - CBC News

    Excerpt:

    Meanwhile, members of another group of Canadian owners — those with 3.0-litre Volkswagens, Audis and Porsches — are still waiting to learn their fate.

    Stewart Gregg, who owns a 2010 Touareg Sport Highline, has considered trading in his vehicle, but the offers have been either low or non-existent.

    The U.S. settlement offers 3.0-litre owners a buyback plus payment or a fix plus payment, however no such deal has yet been struck in Canada. An estimated 17,000 to 18,000 Canadians own 3.0-litre vehicles. ...”

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/cars...l-vw-1.4380797

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