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    ^ive always liked my partners to be naked around the house as much as possible, it doesn't make me desire them any less, personally I find it sexier than clothed (and being a guy, they can see that, so we don't do when kids around), but to each their own, I don't think nudity would be the best dress code.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^ive always liked my partners to be naked around the house as much as possible, it doesn't make me desire them any less, personally I find it sexier than clothed (and being a guy, they can see that, so we don't do when kids around), but to each their own, I don't think nudity would be the best dress code.
    All you're really stating is that in your instance change in perception would not occur. For vast majority involved the transformation I described occurs quite quickly. Albeit these are individual so inclined to such activity that can handle it appropriately. I'm just citing that in any such nudist colony or nudist location what I state exists. People adapt quite quickly to seeing person, rather than sexuality and if they don't they are asked to leave.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Replacement View Post
    I agree with KC.

    In fact I'll site nudist colonies. People who choose to be nudist for any lengths of time, and cohabitat or spend time with other nudists actually start to desensitize to skin being on display. They actually make eye contact. They actually don't stare and leer and actually have sanctions against the same for each other or for visitors.

    Just recently there has been an initiative on Wreck beach where visitors are "red carded" for stopping and obviously staring or leering which is NOT acceptable within the confines of any nudist area. Its unacceptable behavior and universally so in such confines. It becomes a status quo in all such Nudist areas. The flesh stops being seen as sexual and starts to be seen as a person without clothing. The very being, existence, safety, and communal tone in such an area or colony demands that this transference take place.

    Its amazing how quick the transformation is. In reality its clothing and concealing that contributes to a notion of (please forgive in advance) of concealed forbidden fruit being considered both arousing and taboo. Take off all the garb and we're just looking at people and looking at them AS people and not as sexual objects.
    And over the years or decades, apparently shoulders, back, knees, bellies, etc have all been 'restricted' from view. I'm not sure of the rationale but aren't facial veils, etc mandated for women - to keep men's desires at bay?


    Navel exposure The people that think up, and believe this stuff live among us. Maybe they are the ones that schools need to turn their "attention" to.


    "The public exposure of the male and female midriff and bare navel has been taboo at times in Western cultures, being considered immodest or indecent. It was banned in some jurisdictions,[1] with some arguing that it simulated an "erogenic orifice". Female navel exposure was banned and not male because, it was argued, the simulation or upward displacement from vagina to navel was commonplace and obvious in women.[2]
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    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Navel_in_popular_culture



    And of course there's women's ankles and hair...


    Women’s right to choose their dress, free of coercion
    "They do this by verbally reprimanding women or their guardians, sometimes whipping them on the spot or arresting and detaining them, for perceived infractions such as not covering their faces or showing legs, arms, ankles and hair."

    http://www.amnesty.nl/sites/default/...kaverbod_3.pdf


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  4. #104

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    Hey everyone,
    I am one of the admins for CottonTail Corner, a clothing optional area near Edmonton. Recently we have been talking about having a Go Topless Day celebration in or around Edmonton, and I'm just trying to get a sense of how many people would be interested. For this year, I think we'd just try to establish a core group, maybe have a small get together somewhere. Next year (25th anniversary of Gwen Jacob's win in Ontario), have a larger, more public event. If anyone is interested, please e-mail me at [email protected], or check out this FB page. Thanks everyone.

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    interviewed on CBC Daybreak this morning... Not online yet... Interesting how it was a case of women policing women here - or maybe not. Probably started with men making the rules that then cause everyone to react out of fear...



    http://www.cbc.ca/daybreakalberta/

    Burlesque show interrupted in Swift Current after political jokes

    Rosie Bitts interrupted during impromptu comedic routine about Saskatchewan's stripping laws

    CBC News Jul 16, 2015

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskat...okes-1.3154187


    A very thorough article...

    Saskatchewan stripping laws impact Swift Current theatre festival

    ...
    “She was asked to not push the boundaries, because we were concerned about maintaining the rules that we’ve been asked to follow. Because should we ever lose our liquor licence, it would be catastrophic,” said Wall. “I suspect the theatre would be done within the year. It’s how we make money.”

    Bitts said it had been agreed she’d do some “audience banter” and, as a burlesque performer, naturally she gravitated to the “elephant in the room” — the stripping ban.

    “The Saskatchewan government, they’re big boys. They can deal with the gentle ribbing,” said Bitts. “If we’re all so frightened that we can’t say anything, that you’re willing to censor artists from doing a very short bit talking and questioning the Saskatchewan government’s choices, who’s going to stand up at the end of the day?”

    Since the incident, Wall said she has felt backlash. After eight years, she said she is questioning whether to continue to volunteer with the Lyric due to all the negativity. ..."

    http://www.leaderpost.com/life/Strip...403/story.html
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    ^In the quotes above you see the Conservative government acting at its prurient, moralistic, and politically dictatorial best.

    Stripping and political jokes indeed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KC View Post
    I'm not sure of the rationale but aren't facial veils, etc mandated for women - to keep men's desires at bay?
    No. Occlusion increases lust.

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    Surprised no one posted these three boobs...


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    They had to wear a dress. They will be able to wear pants. Sounded like a throwback to something out of the 1940s or 50s...


    Earls restaurant changes dress code to let female servers wear pants after warning over human rights | National Post

    http://news.nationalpost.com/news/ca...hts-boss-warns



    On the issue of pants, dresses and blouses (aka shirts):


    " I gave her the truth" "she couldn't be reasoned with"


    When A Woman Wears Pants
    ...
    A woman wearing a modest dress sends a clear message that she is a more than likely a virtuous woman, a lady. And a woman wearing tight pants, a miniskirt, or a low cut blouse sends a clear message to others (especially men), that she may indeed be an immoral woman. At a minimum, it signifies she lacks good judgment and is guilty of causing lasciviousness (sinful lust). To be frank, a woman who dresses immodestly causes men to think unholy thoughts of fornication and adultery. We read in Matthew 5:28, "...whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." Jesus taught that sin begins in the heart!

    I recently met a professed "Christian" young woman. As we conversed, we began to speak about God, the Bible, and then she asked me ... "Is it wrong for women to wear pants?" She was wearing pants, and tight one's at that. I told her the truth from God's Word --It is a sin for women to wear men's apparel (Deuteronomy 22:5), and an even greater sin to wear immodest clothing that draws men's attention to the outward body, rather than to the inner heart (1st Peter 3:3-5). After I gave her the truth, she immediately became defensive concerning the pants she was wearing by exclaiming, "So what? I don't think THERE'S ANYTHING WRONG WITH WOMEN WEARING PANTS." I tried to show her more Scriptures, but she couldn't be reasoned with. After talking with her for a short time, she said she had to leave for a church.

    ...
    http://www.dividedbytruth.org/BD/women_pants.htm
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    I don't get this human rights flap over what female servers have to wear. Surely when the servers applied for the job they would have known what the uniform was. Be it a skirt and a white blouse or a pair of shorts and a t-shirt. A lot of big chain restaurants have a uniform of some sort. It's almost like the human rights commission is saying some women are so stupid they don't realize what they will be wearing when they apply for a job at a certain restaurant. If they don't want to wear the uniform usually they don't apply for the job, simple as that.
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    ^ It is a human rights issue when male servers at the same restaurant are only required to wear black pants and a dress shirt. The females have to wear 3 inch heels, sleeveless tops, and three pieces of jewelry.

    (watch video from CBC Marketplace)
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/women-dress-codes-human-rights-1.34

    Also it is a form of discrimination because an establishment that requires female staff to wear skimpy clothing is basically telling all overweight women not to bother applying.

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    Places like Chili's on 104th and Whyte also have discriminated against women, actually young ladies, if you are over 25, don't bother to apply. You are expected to go from the main floor to the rooftop, carrying plates of food in high heels.

    If you had a company like a bank that only would hire men between 50 and 60 over 250 lbs. that had a dress code of suspenders and wing tip shoes, there would hell to pay.
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    Apparently the City of Edmonton now has a problem with this woman's workout gear:


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ntre-1.3898742

    WTF?

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    ^that's crazy, compared to what some of my GF's in the past have worn at commercial gyms, or what women wear running, its positively modest. Will they ban guys in singlet's too? Hopefully just a rogue employee and not a policy. Oh, its a policy:

    In an email to CBC, a city spokesman said those guidelines are "currently interpreted" to mean that men must always wear shirts, that women and men must cover their midriffs and that closed-toe shoes are required.
    What do they require for swimming pools then?
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    She can wear it on the street, she can wear it in competition, and it's more than she would be wearing at the pool in the same facility. There is no problem here other than City being ridiculous. It sounds like they're trying to move to a policy of not offending anyone, which is impossible, rather than a policy of what is reasonable attire for a workout.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
    She can wear it on the street, she can wear it in competition, and it's more than she would be wearing at the pool in the same facility. There is no problem here other than City being ridiculous. It sounds like they're trying to move to a policy of not offending anyone, which is impossible, rather than a policy of what is reasonable attire for a workout.

    "In an email to CBC, a city spokesman said those guidelines are "currently interpreted" to mean that men must always wear shirts, that women and men must cover their midriffs and...

    "http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/edmonton-woman-told-sports-bra-inappropriate-for-city-recreation-centre-1.3898742


    So bellybuttons can't be shown? ...but they can be shown in the pool, and on the way to the pool...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium48 View Post
    Apparently the City of Edmonton now has a problem with this woman's workout gear:


    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmont...ntre-1.3898742

    WTF?
    Yes indeed WTF. That outfit looks perfectly fine. On summer days lots of women jog like that.
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    Who is she offending? There has to be someone that is offended by her attire. I've seen less worn on the street, and some clubs they wear bras, and they are bras...!!

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    https://www.edmonton.ca/activities_p...c-centres.aspx
    This is what the city has as guidelines. Ambiguous at best. Common sense was not used and the fact the city is now defending their employee or policy is even more foolish. It seems some Edmonton city staff want women to be fully clothed aka pre 1930s.
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    https://www.edmonton.ca/activities_p...res-pools.aspx

    If you look at the first picture on this city of Edmonton rec page. Tummy showing and no shoes which it has in the rules. Hmm, contravention of Edmonton rules!

    BTW, there was a city fitness page today which had a photo of a jog bra clad woman talking to a man along with a number of other pictures. https://www.edmonton.ca/error/404err...ence-2016.aspx

    It seems when it was presented as a contradiction, someone in the bureaucracy took it down. Edmonton, I thought you were better than idea cleansing! Very disappointed with the citys response thus far for something that should be just common sense.
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    You never can win with these policies. It is a thorny issue because the next person can have all this flab hanging out and say that it is OK because she gets to show her midriff but someone else cannot.

    I certainly don't min what she is wearing but it really becomes a judgement call. The next woman can be wearing a pushup bra and a very thin tee shirt with a plunging v neck and everyone gets into a knot.
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    ^ So stop making judgments and tell the easily offended whiners who think their day will be ruined if they see an overweight woman in a sports bra (or a shirtless overweight man) to go pound sand.

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    Hopefully if the C of E naval gazers ever host an event or get invited to an event where there are belly dancers they do not get one of their belly button patrol officers to escort the ladies of the premises. Oh the horror, a belly button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by moahunter View Post
    ^ive always liked my partners to be naked around the house as much as possible, it doesn't make me desire them any less, personally I find it sexier than clothed (and being a guy, they can see that, so we don't do when kids around), but to each their own, I don't think nudity would be the best dress code.
    Ha Ha. Ha Ha Ha, I'm thinking of the Big Bang Theory episode when Howard stripped naked and sat on Sheldon's leather cushion. Yuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Titanium48 View Post
    ^ So stop making judgments and tell the easily offended whiners who think their day will be ruined if they see an overweight woman in a sports bra (or a shirtless overweight man) to go pound sand.



    I wonder if the Queen's day was ruined....



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    ^No but mine has just been.
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    American news item but interesting in that it was a girl, as seems typical, and interesting in the degree of attention being paid to such issues by staff.

    High school student cited for dress code violation for wearing a crewneck T-shirt
    Yahoo Style • Wed, Aug 9 4:09 PM MDT

    https://ca.yahoo.com/style/high-scho...220913438.html

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