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    Default Severe flooding in southern Alberta

    Lots of water down south and evacuations in several towns, such as Canmore, Bragg Creek, High River and Black Diamond, as well as possibly 100,000 in Calgary. I was watching the radar yesterday and it showed a huge mess of green, yellow and red all pouring towards the mountains. Still more rain in the foothills and forecast for tomorrow. Highways 1, 1A, 22, 40, 66, 68, 93, 540, 541, 549 and 734 have sections closed because of flooding or washouts.
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    Crazy! I don't think we should complain about Edmonton's crappy weather.

    Check out all of these warnings and road closures:

    http://www.emergencyalert.alberta.ca/

    https://twitter.com/AB_EmergAlert

    http://511.alberta.ca/ab/en.html

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    11 p.m., June 20, 2013 Mandatory Evacuation Further Extended

    A state of local emergency has been declared for the city of Calgary due to the potential of significant flooding. The level of the Elbow and Bow Rivers continue to rise at a rapid pace.

    Portions of the following communities are facing mandatory evacuations. If you are in an identified area, please self-evacuate immediately.

    Beltline
    Bonnybrook
    Bowness
    Bridgeland Industrial Area
    Chinatown/Eau Claire
    Cliff Bungalow
    Deer Run
    Discovery Ridge
    Downtown/East Village
    Elbow Park
    Erlton
    Inglewood
    Hillhurst
    Mission
    Montgomery
    Quarry Park
    Rideau
    Riverbend
    Riverdale
    Roxboro
    Stanley Park/Elboya
    Sunnyside
    Victoria Park
    Westmount
    Windsor Park

    http://www.calgarycitynews.com/
    We all have friends and family living in southern Alberta. Do you know anyone who's been affected by the floods?
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    Local state of emergency issued for Red Deer

    Edmonton Journal June 20, 2013 11:50 PM

    Red Deer issued a local state of emergency Thursday evening after Alberta Environment told city officials it will release “a significant amount of water” from the nearby Dickson Dam.

    The Red Deer River is expected to crest around noon Friday, the city said in a news release. As a result the Lions Campground and closing parks, trails and outdoor spaces directly adjacent to the Red Deer River have been evacuated.

    No residents or businesses are under an evacuation order, but the city is asking people to monitor updates because the situation can change rapidly.

    http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...830/story.html

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    Crazy damage in the Canmore area, with roads being washed out, houses starting to fall into the creek (now a raging river). Once the water recedes in areas like Calgary, High River, Bragg Creek, etc we'll get a better idea of any hidden damage we can't see due to it being underwater.

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    Some crazy video and photos on the news this morning. Calgary's downtown is deserted, as many of the streets are submerged under a foot or two of water.

    75,000+ Calgarians under evacuation warnings? Those poor people.

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    Anyone know if the Red Cross is accepting donations for the flood victims down south?
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    I have read on twitter that the Red Cross is accepting donations for the flooding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrOilers View Post
    Some crazy video and photos on the news this morning. Calgary's downtown is deserted, as many of the streets are submerged under a foot or two of water.

    75,000+ Calgarians under evacuation warnings? Those poor people.
    EPS have sent 100 police to help Calgary forces out (Exhausted, having been out all night). Crazy stuff.

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    Watching Global Calgary and seeing a river going down the street in Roxborough. The morning news is streaming online but I'm not sure if it'll go beyond 9 AM.



    http://globalnews.ca/calgary/

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    "TORONTO – More than a dozen towns in southern Alberta declared states of emergency after swollen rivers crested their banks Thursday, forcing many communities to order mandatory evacuations.

    Kevan Yaets and his cat Momo had to swim to safety after his pickup truck was swept away after the Highwood River overflowed its banks in High River, south of Calgary.

    Check out these dramatic photos captured by Canadian Press photographer Jordan Verlage."

    http://globalnews.ca/news/660446/dra...erta-flooding/

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    Add Highways 24 and 547 to the closed list. Sundre declares a state of emergency, telling people to evacuate low lying areas.

    Add Highway 2 near Granum.

    Add parts of Deerfoot where it crosses the Bow.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryH View Post
    Watching Global Calgary and seeing a river going down the street in Roxborough. The morning news is streaming online but I'm not sure if it'll go beyond 9 AM.



    http://globalnews.ca/calgary/
    Yes, it is still streaming live online.

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    ^That photo is at 30th Avenue at 4th Street/Mission Road SE. The water was moving swiftly from west to east along 30th. Not how far east the water could go.

    http://goo.gl/maps/kUxjP

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    Looks like Canmore took a pounding along Cougar Creek and the Trans-Canada.

    https://twitter.com/Goldsack/status/...620032/photo/1

    Where the creek meets the Trans-Canada it looks completely washed out:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S4FcePfd21w

    I don't know the status of the bridges over the Bow but they looked like they were in trouble yesterday:

    https://twitter.com/Goldsack/status/...096320/photo/1

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    "For every complex problem there is an answer that is clear, simple, and wrong"

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    "A massive evacuation continues to play out in Calgary, where flood waters have forced more than 75,000 people from their homes and left the city's core a virtual wasteland.

    Mayor Naheed Nenshi has asked residents to avoid all unnecessary travel, but there is one trip city officials may need to make.

    As part of the intense evacuation, some of the Calgary Zoo's largest animals may need to move to a new home - in jail cells at the courthouse."

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...142135946.html

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    And I just realized that this picture is not where the Trans-Canada crosses the Bow, it's where the Trans-Canada crosses Bow Valley Trail. That's a road under the bridge!


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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryH View Post
    As part of the intense evacuation, some of the Calgary Zoo's largest animals may need to move to a new home - in jail cells at the courthouse."

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...142135946.html
    A co-worker whose family runs a game farm and are helping with the relocations says they mean the "courthouse" at the zoo itself. Not the real courthouse downtown.

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    I know its too easy to make fun of the Calgary Flames, but you have to feel sorry for what the city is experiencing. No one wants to wish this situation on anyone:


    https://twitter.com/BDeCillia/status...975616/photo/1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TerryH View Post
    As part of the intense evacuation, some of the Calgary Zoo's largest animals may need to move to a new home - in jail cells at the courthouse."

    http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily...142135946.html
    A co-worker whose family runs a game farm and are helping with the relocations says they mean the "courthouse" at the zoo itself. Not the real courthouse downtown.
    Thanks, Paul. That would be interesting to have some big cats with any inmates.

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    Evacuations for people living downstream of the Twin Valley Reservoir located between Nanton/Stavely and Champion. The dam will be opened to relieve pressure. http://goo.gl/maps/zJ1nZ

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    Add Highways 520 and 811 to the closure list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paul Turnbull View Post
    And I just realized that this picture is not where the Trans-Canada crosses the Bow, it's where the Trans-Canada crosses Bow Valley Trail. That's a road under the bridge!

    Plus the CP main line. I wonder how long both the highway and railway will be down. BTW, there's no water course down there!!!

    http://goo.gl/maps/HiAjo

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    Been hearing the Saddledome is flooded up to the 14th row of seating, along with media room, and dressing rooms. At this time, I'm surprised that more parts of Deerfoot aren't submerged.

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    Ironically my son left Calgary at 4:00 am this morning with some friends to participate in the Tough Mudder endurance race in Whistler, BC this weekend, something they'd be planning for months. They drove all the way north to Edmonton to take the Yellowhead route to Whistler. Texted him to say he should have stayed home if he wanted to experience a mudder.

    Also ironic that some of the amazing photos and videos of the flood damage are posted on an Edmonton forum.

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    ^^Plenty of comments on Facebook about that. I wonder how much damage that'll be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by East McCauley View Post
    Also ironic that some of the amazing photos and videos of the flood damage are posted on an Edmonton forum.
    What's ironic about that?

    This is a major disaster that is close to Edmonton and all over the local news.

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    ^^An attempt at a bit of humor in the midst of a very serious situation.

    Some of the photos/videos posted on this thread are some of the most amazing and I had not seen them elsewhere on the news. In terms of the severity of this flood, we are in uncharted waters in comparison to any previous Alberta flood.

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    Man, this does not look good. At all. I sure hope Calgary and other places in Southern Alberta can get back to normal quickly after all this flooding.

    I just texted a relative about his brother in Calgary, and he told me his brother lives on more than high enough ground with zero risk of his place getting flooded. Fortunately, this seems to be the case with at least 90% of Calgary's population.

    But, still, I feel for those unlucky enough to live too close to the Bow and Elbow Rivers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by East McCauley View Post
    ^^An attempt at a bit of humor in the midst of a very serious situation.

    Some of the photos/videos posted on this thread are some of the most amazing and I had not seen them elsewhere on the news.
    Ah, gotcha. And yes, it is strange that some of the best photos I've seen have been posted here, of all places.

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    More photos from Calgary. The server is busy so you may have to refresh a few times to get on.

    http://bizboxtv.com/calgary-flooding...ictures-video/

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    Things don't look good at the zoo. Hope they had time to move a lot of the animals.


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    Strathmore radar still shows a "narrow" band of rain flowing to the southeast piling into the mountains around Banff and south.

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    Overland flood alert issued for Banff: http://emergencyalert.alberta.ca/ale...3/06/1819.html

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    Default Calgary flood: Alberta residents describe what they're seeing

    "The speed and extent of the flooding in southern Alberta has taken people in the province by surprise.

    “Yesterday, I was kind of being a little flip about it. I could see what was going on in the mountains and that didn't surprise me,” says Arlene Dickenson, one of the judges on the CBC TV show Dragon’s Den, who has been watching the scene unfold from her condo in downtown Calgary.

    “I woke up [this morning] and I went, ‘Oh my god.’ Shocked. I'm shocked.""

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...reactions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by East McCauley View Post
    ^^An attempt at a bit of humor in the midst of a very serious situation.

    Some of the photos/videos posted on this thread are some of the most amazing and I had not seen them elsewhere on the news. In terms of the severity of this flood, we are in uncharted waters in comparison to any previous Alberta flood.
    I saw it as humorous, though one has to consider that many Southern Albertans' access to the internet will be severely hampered for obvious reasons.

    With Edmonton sending police and military to help out, not to mention Red Cross donations and other aid...it continues the tradition of one city helping another during times of disaster - any rivalry is set aside. I remember lots of aid from Calgary after the 87 tornado.
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    Calgarians offended by Google Doodle depicting swimming scene

    http://globalnews.ca/news/662061/cal...aign=community
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sonic Death Monkey View Post
    Calgarians offended by Google Doodle depicting swimming scene

    http://globalnews.ca/news/662061/cal...aign=community
    Wow. Major facepalm. I'm sure they'd be also offended if an ad for any swimming product popped up.

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    ^^ O jebus!
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    AMA Road Reports ‏@AMARoadReports 1m
    RT @cameronmckinnon: Stuck in traffic in Calgary almost all major roads shut down, police planning on closing deerfoot

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    The bad thing about this system is that the air's so cold that any little blip of moisture showing up on radar is bringing rain. Getting a downpour right now in Red Deer and there's only a little blob of moisture passing by. Most of the time something like that would either be a sprinkle or nothing. I can only imagine the amount of rain falling in the green/yellow areas.

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    Highway 1 east from Golden reopened to passenger traffic only to Banff.

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    Could have an effect on the Stampede, that's not to far off. What with flooding and roads needing repaired. The Stampede grounds being waterlogged.
    Stay save Calgary and southern Alberta.
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    "A Local State of Emergency has been declared as Alberta Environment is predicting water on the South Saskatchewan River will be moving faster than the major flooding back in 1995."

    http://www.cjcyfm.com/news-and-info/...-medicine-hat/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Could have an effect on the Stampede, that's not to far off. What with flooding and roads needing repaired. The Stampede grounds being waterlogged.
    Stay save Calgary and southern Alberta.
    Two weeks from today. But things have to be set before then. Hard to say what condition the Saddledome and the rodeo grandstand (along with other buildings) will be in and if they can everything in working condition by then.

    And will Calgarians be in a Stampede mood? Lots of people involved with the Stampede may be looking at getting their own damage problems resolved first.
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    Radar's showing that the rain band is starting to rotate more to the south away from the Banff area towards the Crowsnest area.

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    This is a depiction of where the water level is in the Saddledome:



    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...6701900&type=1

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    Default BREAKING: City delivering evacuation notices

    "The City of Medicine Hat aims to have nearly 10,000 residents of the city’s low-lying areas evacuated from their homes and relocated to Medicine Hat College by 10 p.m.

    Delivery of mandatory evacuation notices started at 3 p.m. today to residents in the Flats (from Second Street to Spencer Street and from Kingsway Avenue to Iron Avenue) as well as homes along the river including Harris Street SW, and 1st Street NE (from Division Avenue to Parkview Close). The mandatory evacuation zones is believed to include about 3,800 homes. Power will be disconnected to the affected areas as late as possible."

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    Not to diminish the human cost and although it probably doesn't seem like it at the moment, in the longer term this will turn out to be quite beneficial to Calgary in terms of rebuilding and infrastructure work with an influx of provincial and federal funds.... And who would begrudge it?

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    One Facebook post:

    "Calgary: the only place in the world that measures flood levels by the seating rows of the hockey arena.."

    https://www.facebook.com/taiya.colon...51453935136006

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    Video of the C-Train line close to Erlton/Stampede station. I wonder how much water the tunnel got.

    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10152464304275961

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    Medicine Hat flood area map. Pink is from the 1995 flood, yellow is the expected additional area to the 1995 area.



    https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...2595961&type=1

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    Default ‘I have never seen the river that high’:

    "‘Second surge feared as Calgary becomes watery ghost town"

    "CALGARY — Alberta Premier Alison Redford has promised that the province will help flood victims put their lives back together.

    Redford said the government will provide financial aid to communities that need to rebuild.

    She said she has spoken to Prime Minister Stephen Harper, who has also promised disaster relief."

    "However, it’s possible that the Bow could experience a second surge, taking it from its current flow of 1500 cubic metres per second to 1750 cubic metres per second, though Nenshi hopes that the Elbow will have lowered by that point."

    http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06...egin-to-flood/

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    The steady rain is disappearing but there are storms moving into the Canmore/Kananaskis areas. Those will be short lived but will add to the existing water.

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    "LETHBRIDGE: As of 6:30 Friday evening, our city has yet to see the peak water flow on the Oldman River. City officials have reported that Alberta Environment forecasts are now calling for the peak to reach Lethbridge between midnight and 2-AM, and that it will be about the same as 2005 levels."

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    I wonder how long that will take to dry out.

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    Default Waterton Lakes National Park flooding update - What's open, what's closed


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    Stampede grounds are submerged, the mayor has said it will still go on...

    Pretty sure it will be scaled back as the amount of damage in the area is not known. Tourism is sure to take a big hit in the Canmore and Banff area's this summer. German tour operators have already been cancelling trips to that part of the rockies for the upcoming week as per my sister who works in Canmore for one the tour groups, many of the resorts and hotels in the town have been badly flooded.
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    The high waters of the Oldman River passed through Lethbridge with with little problem. There's no homes down in the valley and the valley itself is pretty deep. For some reason, the Lethbridge Herald is offline. Medicine Hat is expecting flood waters to start later tonight and peak by Monday. Damage there will be significant. I saw something that mentioned that possibly several bridges over the Bow and South Saskatchewan, southeast of Calgary, could be washed out.

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    "It is expected that all bridge crossings on Highways 522, 845, 25, Cameron Crossing at TWP RD 11-2, Peacock Crossing TWP RD 13-0, and the Sundial Crossing RR 19-5/20-0 will be washed out."

    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/britis...acuations.html

    Edit: Looking at the map, those roads run across the Little Bow River. I'm not sure how bad that River is as the head waters are south of High River but there are canals that feed water from the Bow and Highwood Rivers into the Little Bow at the Travers Reservoir. The river below the dam is only a few feet wide and is more the size of a creek. But it's in a wide valley and the bridges there short and just above the water so any flooding would go overtop with no problem.
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    Here's an interesting article published less than a month ago that talked about how unprepared we are for this things:

    http://www.calgaryherald.com/news/al...#ixzz2Wwhhpvru
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    it is a total loss at saddledome !!



















    http://globalnews.ca/news/663138/sta...major-cleanup/
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    And by "total loss", they meant the dressing rooms and other areas that were submerged. The "event level." Not the entire building.

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    Also all of the technical equipment is a loss. Ice plant, jumbotron controls, etc, etc.

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    1989 Stanley cup team photo is destroyed as well.
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    It will be interesting to see what the dollar figure will be on the Saddledome damage...

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    Weird as it may seem, but could the Flames play some of their home games here, if the Saddledome is not ready!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmontonfan View Post
    Weird as it may seem, but could the Flames play some of their home games here, if the Saddledome is not ready!
    Perhaps. More likely I'd think would be the NHL massaging the schedule a bit to give them extra time to get ready, and/or playing some games in Red Deer, Saskatoon, Regina etc.

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    1989 Stanley cup team photo is destroyed as well.
    I should imagine that will be easy to replace. There maybe other items that are one of a kind that are lost for good. Biggest concern is structural damage to the foundations of the arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemini View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by jagators63 View Post
    1989 Stanley cup team photo is destroyed as well.
    I should imagine that will be easy to replace. There maybe other items that are one of a kind that are lost for good. Biggest concern is structural damage to the foundations of the arena.
    It's an all cement building. im pretty sure it will be ok structurally.

    here is my prediction.. Flames get relocated to Quebec city while Calgary builds new Arena with heavy financial support from the feds and prov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo
    It's an all cement building. im pretty sure it will be ok structurally.
    I think so too, but water in a building's foundations can cause major issues with heaving and the like. Some soils swell when they get wet and the hydraulic pressure can be incredible. Hence weeping tile and subsoil drainage being important.

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    "CALGARY -- It could be days or weeks before Calgary’s downtown core is open for business, says the city’s emergency management chief.

    But with the city core’s status questionable, waterlogged Calgarians got some good news Sunday as Mayor Naheed Nenshi said some 65,000 residents displaced by flooding could begin returning home early afternoon.

    Bruce Burrell of the Calgary Emergency Management Agency said much of the downtown core is still without power but some residents and business owners would be let in their premises Sunday to check on their properties."

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
    Not to diminish the human cost and although it probably doesn't seem like it at the moment, in the longer term this will turn out to be quite beneficial to Calgary in terms of rebuilding and infrastructure work with an influx of provincial and federal funds.... And who would begrudge it?

    Sometimes clouds do have a silver lining.
    WRONG! Read the Broken Window Fallacy.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable..._broken_window

    If your logic was a good concept, then we should all be happy to be flooded or have natural disasters occur. Are you suggesting that floods are a good thing? Maybe we should burn down the City of Edmonton to benefit the economy? Maybe start a war with another country? Have you seen any benefit for the 3-4 Trillion dollars spent on wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan? You are only looking at the see able benefits and do not see the huge human cost, the downside to economic losses, the increases in insurance rates, the redirection of tax dollars to provide victim relief that affect all Canadians.




    As economist Sandy Ikeda summed it up last year, the argument is that “paying $100 to replace a broken window somehow creates more prosperity than having an intact window and spending that $100 on something else.” He goes on to ask, as many economists have: If destruction is so good for an economy, why wait for a hurricane or a bombing raid? Why not just bomb your own cities?

    As Frederic Bastiat explained the “broken window fallacy,” a boy breaks a shop window. Villagers gather around and deplore the boy’s vandalism. But then one of the more sophisticated townspeople, perhaps one who has been to college and read Keynes, says, “Maybe the boy isn’t so destructive after all. Now the shopkeeper will have to buy a new window. The glassmaker will then have money to buy a table. The furniture maker will be able to hire an assistant or buy a new suit. And so on. The boy has actually benefited our town!”

    But as Bastiat noted, “Your theory stops at what is seen. It does not take account of what is not seen.” If the shopkeeper has to buy a new window, then he can’t hire a delivery boy or buy a new suit. Money is shuffled around, but it isn’t created. And indeed, wealth has been destroyed. The village now has one less window than it did, and it must spend resources to get back to the position it was in before the window broke. As Bastiat said, “Society loses the value of objects unnecessarily destroyed.”

    In the comic strip “Pearls Before Swine,” the nefarious Rat used the destruction-as-stimulus argument to defend his client’s blowing up downtown:
    http://www.cato.org/blog/hurricane-i...nomic-stimulus

    Maybe all the C2E members should come over to your place and totally trash it and then burn it down to the ground for the good of the economy... You are covered by insurance right? Suddenly you realize that your ideas on economic benefits of floods just does not hold water.
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    ^Even if that did happen and Calgary was given money to rebuild. Would they be wise to re-build in the same places?.
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    "Worst flood in Alberta's history" states Premier Redford . CBC Broadcast from Calgary.
    Millions of dollars of un-insurable loss.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
    Not to diminish the human cost and although it probably doesn't seem like it at the moment, in the longer term this will turn out to be quite beneficial to Calgary in terms of rebuilding and infrastructure work with an influx of provincial and federal funds.... And who would begrudge it?

    Sometimes clouds do have a silver lining.


    If your logic was a good concept, then we should all be happy to be flooded or have natural disasters occur. Are you suggesting that floods are a good thing? Maybe we should burn down the City of Edmonton to benefit the economy? Maybe start a war with another country? Have you seen any benefit for the 3-4 Trillion dollars spent on wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan? You are only looking at the see able benefits anddo not see the huge human cost, the downside to economic losses, the increases in insurance rates, the redirection of tax dollars to provide victim relief that affect all Canadians.



    Yes I do, it's the first thing I wrote...Do you even bother reading posts before you go and get your thong in a twist?

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    I did read your post and I mostly spoke about the Broken Window Fallacy which is about the economics, not the human cost. You obviously did not read my post so take your insipid remarks off this forum. The whole pretense to your post is wrong and your back peddling does not help.

    If your logic was a good concept, then we should all be happy to be flooded or have natural disasters occur. Are you suggesting that floods are a good thing? Maybe we should burn down the City of Edmonton to benefit the economy? Maybe start a war with another country? Have you seen any benefit for the 3-4 Trillion dollars spent on wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan? You are only looking at the see able benefits and do not see the huge human cost, the downside to economic losses, the increases in insurance rates, the redirection of tax dollars to provide victim relief that affect all Canadians
    I underlined all that you missed...

    Even the cartoon does not deal with the human cost of nuking downtown.

    With downtown Calgary resembling a ghost town and many other cities and towns, many restaurants, bars, and other tourist related businesses may not be able to be open for weeks or months. Some businesses may never open again, do these people see any "silver lining" that you so callously talk about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edmonton PRT View Post
    I did read your post and I mostly spoke about the Broken Window Fallacy which is about the economics, not the human cost. You obviously did not read my post so take your insipid remarks off this forum. The whole pretense to your post is wrong and your back peddling does not help.

    If your logic was a good concept, then we should all be happy to be flooded or have natural disasters occur. Are you suggesting that floods are a good thing? Maybe we should burn down the City of Edmonton to benefit the economy? Maybe start a war with another country? Have you seen any benefit for the 3-4 Trillion dollars spent on wars in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan? You are only looking at the see able benefits and do not see the huge human cost, the downside to economic losses, the increases in insurance rates, the redirection of tax dollars to provide victim relief that affect all Canadians
    I underlined all that you missed...

    Even the cartoon does not deal with the human cost of nuking downtown.

    With downtown Calgary resembling a ghost town and many other cities and towns, many restaurants, bars, and other tourist related businesses may not be able to be open for weeks or months. Some businesses may never open again, do these people see any "silver lining" that you so callously talk about?
    Who's backpedaling? I stand by my comment...

    I understand the point you're desperately trying to shoehorn in, it's just that it has no relevance what so ever to my post.

    Though I must say that having occasionally waded through one or two of your other verbose meanderings, the fact that you have once again grasped the wrong end of the stick comes as no real surprise.

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    Bridges in Black Diamond and Turner Valley washed out. Major flooding on the Siksika reserve with 1000 people forced out of their homes.

    http://www.calgarysun.com/2013/06/23...ur-communities

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    Trans-Canada open between Banff and Golden to passenger and tour bus traffic. No commercial vehicles except for deliveries to Field, Lake Louise and Banff and commercial accommodations. Highway 93 between Highways 1 & 11 open to commercial traffic with permits only (not that I'd recommend it for semi traffic, anyways).

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    Quote Originally Posted by expat View Post
    Who's backpedaling? I stand by my comment...

    I understand the point you're desperately trying to shoehorn in, it's just that it has no relevance what so ever to my post.

    Though I must say that having occasionally waded through one or two of your other verbose meanderings, the fact that you have once again grasped the wrong end of the stick comes as no real surprise.
    I am not shoehorning in anything. I am telling you outright that your comments are WRONG!. Tell any of the people in Calgary, High River, Canmore or from any other affected community who have lost their home, businesses or will be laid off for weeks or months until they can go back to work, that the threatening clouds above them have silver linings. You would be tarred and feathered and then beat you with that stick you speak of.

    Your comments remain insensitive to their loses that will affect them for months or years and you lack any basic understanding of the economics of such a disaster.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TerryH View Post
    Sad but true

    Calgary flood victims angered by alleged price-gouging
    Bags of ice reportedly being sold for as much as $20 after devastation
    http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...ng-floods.html
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    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    here is my prediction.. Flames get relocated to Quebec city while Calgary builds new Arena with heavy financial support from the feds and prov.
    Not so sure about the Quebec City relocation, but I have been thinking exactly the same about rebuilding. A new Calgary arena is on the radar and there have been exploratory studies done, and an estimated rehabilitation cost (when one is determined) of well over $50M will go a long way to kickstarting the push for a new arena... with lots of federal and provincial funding.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dialog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by edmonton daily photo View Post
    here is my prediction.. Flames get relocated to Quebec city while Calgary builds new Arena with heavy financial support from the feds and prov.
    Not so sure about the Quebec City relocation, but I have been thinking exactly the same about rebuilding. A new Calgary arena is on the radar and there have been exploratory studies done, and an estimated rehabilitation cost (when one is determined) of well over $50M will go a long way to kickstarting the push for a new arena... with lots of federal and provincial funding.
    And Mayor Mandel will rightfully go ballistic!
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