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    ^Yes, I saw people there yesterday as well. May 25 is their Grand Re-Opening.
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    Violent Crime Heat map

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    ^

    yeah, it's a "heat map". sort of.

    one that's pretty meaningless on it's own until you adjust for population density and relative income density along with the density of bars and night clubs and proximity to lrt stations and social agencies and hotels and casinos and major sports and concert venues etc.
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    Meds medding. He is upset and reactionary to me posting an aerial of a community that is vibrant and growing.

    Apparently, insecurity is a problem these days.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    Meds medding. He is upset and reactionary to me posting an aerial of a community that is vibrant and growing.

    Apparently, insecurity is a problem these days.
    His neighbourhood is lame suburban sprawl and he knows it, that's why he's so sensitive and reactionary.
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    My quiet sleepy neighbourhood is just the way I like it, with easy access to the airport so when I need a true urban experience, I can go to a real city with actual vibrancy, and not the same boring downtown Edmonton that still shuts down after 6 pm most days.

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    ^That's a weird thing to say, maybe just a reaction against IanO. Most people are proud of the cities they live in, including wanting to see a vibrant core.
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    ^ I bet a lot of people in Medward's neck of the woods feel that way. Living on the fringes and often working on the fringes, or commuting in and heading back out as fast as possible. Not sure what the point of being on this forum is for Medwards if he thinks Edmonton isn't a real city and he would rather fly off elsewhere. He probably just likes trolling people who actually like and care about this city.
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    Would love to see it. Isnt there yet.

    very reactionary to impact post by Iano and now gizmoformayor

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    Poor gizmo has to attack anyone that doesnt desire the same things in life she does

    I live close to where I work. Reducing my eco footprint.

    life is hard out here. On my 5 minute walk to work, a goose tried to bum a smoke off me, i dont smoke, but sure reminded me of my okd downtown commute
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    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    ^

    yeah, it's a "heat map". sort of.

    one that's pretty meaningless on it's own until you adjust for population density and relative income density along with the density of bars and night clubs and proximity to lrt stations and social agencies and hotels and casinos and major sports and concert venues etc.
    In addition, very little violent crime is random. Almost all violent crime in the core areas is between perpetrators and victims known to each other.

    That's why the vast majority of us Downtown or inner city folk have never been a victim of a violent crime despite the perception of our neighbourhoods.

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    Also crimes that are reported at headquarters are sometimes recorded as taking place in that area. I.e. someone walks in to headquarters to file a police report that they've been assaulted.This was surprising to me but confirmed by EPS.

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    A new restaurant called Say Uncle has opened - or is opening - on 104 Street. Not sure where, I assume it's in the Aarde space.
    “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

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    Quote Originally Posted by nickv View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by GreenSPACE View Post
    Tiffin opens on Tuesday, May 21.
    Finally. Feels like they've had their signage on the windows forever.
    Popped in for dinner last night. It was decent, but admittedly Indian isn't typically one of my go-to cuisines. There was certainly a lot of food for $16, so if quantity is your thing this might be your place. They did a good job with the space, it looks great.

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    i echo what mewards says. we've been told about the promise of dt revitalization for years. it's just around the corner, etc. but even with everything that's happened, it just not there. as a long time (former) supporter of all things dt, i've just given up. yeah, i drive (shoot me) and the city doesn't want me to take my vehicle dt. transit is not a reliable option and the future lrt will be too slow to make me to want to switch out of my vehicle.

    but, perhaps, the biggest factor is the social disorder/ cleanliness factor. dt just feels unsafe. recently took some friends from van on a walking tour (b/c still a part of me wanted to show off what's been accomplished) i had to cringe multiple times. vomit on the sidewalk, the beautiful granite on jasper covered in black spills. a man urinating! in a corner right on jasper ave. the timmies was a zombie zone. sketchy people dominating and no cops around whatsoever. half dead trees, litter. need i go on?

    calgary is nite and day different compared to here. and of course, places like montreal/ vancouver/ toronto offer no comparison. van friends liked the construction progress but in their brutal honesty indicated they would never want to be walking alone/ patronize. i felt like that, too.

    the other cities have their social issues, but in edm it seems to be magnified and that is what will keep people away.
    and what's the point of building pretty things/ new lights/ new sidewalks if there isn't the plan to maintain them. but that's edmonton's mantra. dream big, but leave to rot after moving on to the next thing.

    so, yeah, i'm done with the promise of dt revitalization. too many promises, too little follow through.

    my neighbourhood community is clean, has decent restaurants and it feels safe and has easy access. that's what matters.

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    Anyone who thinks our downtown is safe is only looking at it from a mans perspective. I've heard from countless females from all walks of life that downtown just doesn't feel safe, even when they are in a group.

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...t-and-disorder

    But IanO is on it. Don't worry City Police, etc... Our Downtown Super Hero along with his cohorts in the DBA and the associated business will solve all the problems with words!
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    You really should see someone about your IanO obsession/fixation/vendetta. It's getting worrisome.

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    Well with so much construction happening all around the downtown core it's hard for lots of pedestrians to be moving around to give a much safer feel to the downtown area. Definitely there much be more done to help people feel safer. I do see as more businesses open up and more people continue to move into the core that people will continue to feel more at ease in the core. It has been a long process but things continue to change which improves the areas. Look at the Quarters area, even though there is still a long way to go the area has taken some very long strides in improving the look and feel of that area. Can it be better, sure. Is it hopeless, not even close.
    LRT is our future, time to push forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    You really should see someone about your IanO obsession/fixation/vendetta. It's getting worrisome.
    There's not much to do in the suburbs, so angry trolling must be his new hobby
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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    You really should see someone about your IanO obsession/fixation/vendetta. It's getting worrisome.
    Hey, he poked the bear. The bear is just responding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GizmoForMayor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    You really should see someone about your IanO obsession/fixation/vendetta. It's getting worrisome.
    There's not much to do in the suburbs, so angry trolling must be his new hobby
    Just responding in kind. You must be bored yourself, your angry posts to me while keeping me on ignore really show how childish you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    You really should see someone about your IanO obsession/fixation/vendetta. It's getting worrisome.
    Hey, he poked the bear. The bear is just responding.
    Go back and look at the posts objectively. Ian's post here had no comment and his Twitter post said he found aerial shots in general mesmerizing. There is nothing even slightly negative in his post, whether implicit or explicit. Yet you took it upon yourself to intentionally troll him in not 1 but 2 threads (something you frequently criticize him for) with a crime heat map, with blatantly negative posts taking a dump on DT.

    Any unbiased observer unaware of your anti-IanO jihad watching this play out would think there is something wrong with you. And they'd be justified in wondering.

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    well, they aren't wrong, there is something wrong with me, as there is with everyone. I'm sure you're not perfect either.

    Yes, obviously those who don't understand the long standing feud between the two of us, being escalated on both ends wouldn't probably get it... but there's not a lot of outsiders here. It's most the same 20 people circle jerking each other... and its been that way for a decade. There is no new users coming on board. Some people are using new handles, but that's about it.
    This isn't the first time IanO has directly or indirectly tried to shame landuse in the SW.... just because he is being coy about it doesn't mean its not there.


    and to be quite frank, I'm not posting to make friends with anyone, so I'm not really bothered if your perception of me is completely wrong. I'll quite often take a devils advocate approach to things. I will gladly take up an argument on the other end of what my actual beliefs are. Sometimes it takes a realization of a different point of view to see that there is a problem, and the rose coloured pictures being portrayed aren't quite as they are being painted.

    And oh no, someone posted a heat map of violent crime. I'm mesmerized by it Impact and all. Does the fact that i'm mesmerized by it make it any better? I didn't think so.
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    I genuinely posted that aerial because I like land-use, development and its impact on an area, that's it.
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    That's quite different that your previous posts about the area. Why the change in tune?

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    I don't have to like the look, feel, use of the area to enjoy a very cool aerial.
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    I can still like an/all area(s) of city but talk about the negatives I see, and also admire a heat map. Let's move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Medwards View Post
    Anyone who thinks our downtown is safe is only looking at it from a mans perspective. I've heard from countless females from all walks of life that downtown just doesn't feel safe, even when they are in a group.

    https://edmontonjournal.com/news/loc...t-and-disorder
    DT boosters - "The arena will bring vitality and more people means more safety. Also, we need a 50% increase in police presence downtown because of the arena. Two totally unrelated issues."

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