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    So I can confirm my second worst nightmare about this project has come true:

    BMO will be ground level.

    They will be taking all the retail space along 101 Street (including "Swedish Jewelers.")

    they will, however, also be vacating a couple of blocks of the worst urban edges in the core for redevelopment. this should be a longterm large net plus given that retail banks are not going to disappear.
    It's definitely less bad than their old configuration (and I won't even say "but their old configuration may have been the worst in the history of our Downtown") but:


    a.) While retail banks may not disappear, I can't see pragmatically what's stopping them from moving to the third floor (off the street and off pedway-level too.)

    b.) Do they seriously need to take ground level in one of our nicest buildings which is on one of our neediest streets?


    I know, I know, not that simple. Doesn't stop the disappointment though. It's a blemish on a building that would have been hard to otherwise improve.
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    If, like you said, it's only on the 101st side, then its a huge win for the reason Kcantor pointed out. The current BMO setup takes out 101st, 102ave, and rice howard way

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    ^ which I did say, but realistically the glass is still half empty too. I'm probably just being spoiled by a couple of recent projects up the street that have in one way and another, not compromised anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    So I can confirm my second worst nightmare about this project has come true:

    BMO will be ground level.

    They will be taking all the retail space along 101 Street (including "Swedish Jewelers.")

    they will, however, also be vacating a couple of blocks of the worst urban edges in the core for redevelopment. this should be a longterm large net plus given that retail banks are not going to disappear.
    It's definitely less bad than their old configuration (and I won't even say "but their old configuration may have been the worst in the history of our Downtown") but:


    a.) While retail banks may not disappear, I can't see pragmatically what's stopping them from moving to the third floor (off the street and off pedway-level too.)

    b.) Do they seriously need to take ground level in one of our nicest buildings which is on one of our neediest streets?


    I know, I know, not that simple. Doesn't stop the disappointment though. It's a blemish on a building that would have been hard to otherwise improve.
    I guess I don't understand why the disappointment. Blemish? It's their main branch. It's not like 101 is a prime shopping corridor. I believe Royal Bank is taking street front space in Katz's tower. Same disappointment?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bpeters View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by kcantor View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    So I can confirm my second worst nightmare about this project has come true:

    BMO will be ground level.

    They will be taking all the retail space along 101 Street (including "Swedish Jewelers.")

    they will, however, also be vacating a couple of blocks of the worst urban edges in the core for redevelopment. this should be a longterm large net plus given that retail banks are not going to disappear.
    It's definitely less bad than their old configuration (and I won't even say "but their old configuration may have been the worst in the history of our Downtown") but:


    a.) While retail banks may not disappear, I can't see pragmatically what's stopping them from moving to the third floor (off the street and off pedway-level too.)

    b.) Do they seriously need to take ground level in one of our nicest buildings which is on one of our neediest streets?


    I know, I know, not that simple. Doesn't stop the disappointment though. It's a blemish on a building that would have been hard to otherwise improve.
    I guess I don't understand why the disappointment. Blemish? It's their main branch. It's not like 101 is a prime shopping corridor. I believe Royal Bank is taking street front space in Katz's tower. Same disappointment?
    You're right it's not a prime shopping corridor, and lost opportunities like this are a major part of the reason.

    And I will measure my disappointment of RBC or any other new bank in linear metres of streetfront multiplied by the number of evening hours they're closed.

    (edit - against an index of the the potential of the neighbourhood.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    You're right it's not a prime shopping corridor, and lost opportunities like this are a major part of the reason.
    I thought this is the Financial District of DT and despite fashion/retail icons like Holt Refrew and Henry Singer having loooooong tenures on this street others have not seen the value to setting up shop for traditional retail. As I said I don't understand. oh well.
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    ^ I think this is the crux of it:

    Quote Originally Posted by JayBee View Post
    a.) While retail banks may not disappear, I can't see pragmatically what's stopping them from moving to the third floor (off the street and off pedway-level too.)

    b.) Do they seriously need to take ground level in one of our nicest buildings which is on one of our neediest streets?
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    ^I find most streets throughout the downtown are not nice streets to walk down. Streets like 104street, or Rice Howard way tend to have more success because they are designed to be nice walking streets. I would lament this loss if 101street was similarly designed or if the bank was to open on the RHW side. I used to catch the bus on 101street for years and I always hated standing along it, just bus after bus and lots of traffic since it is a major arterial. Add to that walled off podiums like commerce place and scotia place and you have an awful street regardless of Enbridge Centre's new retail bays facing it. (in fact if I recall the green strip mall that used to be there never did well either). This is all just my opinion and the fact that they are having banks set up along it seems like a step up.

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    ^ well yes, exactly, but:

    1. why couldn't this opportunity have opted to take it's cue from RHW instead? Encroach some life into the valley of death. The vibe around the corner is arguably just as relevant as the vibe down the block.
    2. I can't exactly write my thoughts about Olympia and York's actions on C2E at a point where it could be meaningful, can I? It's 2016 whether I like it or not. These opportunities don't often come up.
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    Is there retail space on the pedway level(s) in this building?

    Henry Singer isn't street facing, yet it does quite well. I think stores could still do well without being street facing - luxury stores in the case of the financial core. There are other examples. Most financial/downtown cores are pretty cold to the pedestrian in my experience. Once you are on the inside though, you get all the fancy stuff. Most executives and people that can afford such stores aren't really walking around town that much. Drive to work in their (insert luxury brand car here), stay in their building/pedway system, and drive home in said car. While it would be nice to break this mould/stereotype, I don't really see Edmonton being the best city to do it in. Such stores don't really have a huge audience outside of office hours either, other than maybe lawyers/executives that work extended hours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodib View Post
    Is there retail space on the pedway level(s) in this building?
    yes-ish. They said the "retail tenant" would be on two floors, although that's the tenant that has turned out to be BMO. Enbridge also has space on the second floor, but no consumer oriented business to do there that I'm aware.



    Henry Singer isn't street facing, yet it does quite well. I think stores could still do well without being street facing - luxury stores in the case of the financial core. There are other examples. Most financial/downtown cores are pretty cold to the pedestrian in my experience. Once you are on the inside though, you get all the fancy stuff. Most executives and people that can afford such stores aren't really walking around town that much. Drive to work in their (insert luxury brand car here), stay in their building/pedway system, and drive home in said car. While it would be nice to break this mould/stereotype, I don't really see Edmonton being the best city to do it in. Such stores don't really have a huge audience outside of office hours either, other than maybe lawyers/executives that work extended hours.
    I was hoping dreaming for a resto-pub and a Whiskey and Wine or something. I agree it wouldn't be a good place for "shop retail" (although that could change depending what happens on the ex-BMO site.)
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    Don't get me wrong, I love the building, but that's part of what makes the "closed after 4:30 and all weekend aspect" affecting.


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    Mostly a great view of Manulife but

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    Yesterday:


    Enbridge Centre by Chris Vazquez, on Flickr


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    From the alley:


    Enbridge Centre by Chris Vazquez, on Flickr

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    Sharp.

    "Swedish Jewelers" lives.

    Nice to get a picture of the very nice but somewhat overlooked North face.
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    I walked past this building yesterday and today. It really is a great potential improvement to the streetscape. I have in mind the stretches along first street and rice avenue. I hope very much whatever fills the streetfront will be worthy of the architecture.

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    This building gets better and better every time I walk by it. Su-perb!

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    I was out with a girl last night who looked at me with the most ridiculous face because I was so impressed with the sidewalk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stevey_G View Post
    I was out with a girl last night who looked at me with the most ridiculous face because I was so impressed with the sidewalk.
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    lol.

    Well, it is actually a nice sidewalk.

    The whole thing epitomises our leapfrogging of our old self. It used to be that nice sidewalks were for other cities.
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    I can't get enough of this building (and sidewalk) either...it's wonderful.

    Has there been any updates regarding the restaurant? Do we know if it's still supposed to be Jamie Oliver?
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    Jamie Oliver in a building with Ramsey on the side of it - kind of ironic

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    Except for the spelling: it's Gordon Ramsay, but that may be enough for some.
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    Anyone know when KPMG is supposed to move to the Kelly Ramsey tower? They are still in Commerce Place and don't see any signs of them moving.
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    Early in the New Year. Tenant improvements in KR are underway, I believe. Same goes with the Enbridge TI, and a couple other ones. Busy place for the next couple months, then the moving trucks.

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    Mine

    Commerce Place's crown looking sad in the background.

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    Today:







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    The art piece that greets you is a very nice touch.
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    very nice looking.
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    Any word on when the pedway to Manulife opens? This seems to be crawling along now, the exterior is still not done yet.
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    ^ I don't have any real info, nor do I pretend, but it looks pretty close. Just a few touches on the ceiling. I don't know if usage needs to wait for the exterior.


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    I was told by the end of January.
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    I've already used it a few times. It's open, they're just finishing some of the ceiling
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    Pedway to Manulife is open but still under construction. Even the inside of the pedway still has some unfinished fixtures.
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    ^Yeah, progress on the pedway sure seems to be crawling. Coincidentally I just drove southbound on 101 Street today and can't believe that lanes underneath the pedway are still blocked off.

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    Have retailers and services been announced?

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    Apparently the Oliver restaurant deal fell through.

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    Looking at a coffee shop and likely 2 restaurants.
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    I heard Credo was looking at another DT location here?
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    BMO in the ground level space along 101 Street.
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    Thanks for the updates. I was wondering why the retail spaces were still sitting empty. For the coffee - personally I'd like to see 3rd time the charm for Transcend, but anything other than another Starfucks or Timmys is good to me.
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    Any update on when the retail portions get occupied and with what?

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    242377528-001
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    To Construct interior alterations in an existing office building. Kelly Ramsey Conference Centre. 23rd floor Enbridge Centre.

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    They could hang some x-mas decorations up there during x-mas!
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    So are they going to finish that Enbridge-Manulife pedway sometime this year, or what? It's dragged on for a long time now.
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    135343506-060
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    To Construct Interior Alterations. This is Phase 1 of a 2-Phase Tenant Improvement project to fit-out a BMO Retail Bank Branch (relocated from adjacent site). HVAC distribution & Lighting to be installed as part of TI Phase 2. Supplemental documentation re: Energy Efficiency to be included in Phase 2 BP application. (BMO Branch - Edmonton Main)

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    Is the enbridge tower on jasper ave now vacant? Any potential tenants for this iconic building?
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    Negative. No deal yet.
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    243493935-001
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    Plan 1422995 Blk 1 Lot 39A

    To construct interior alterations to an existing 20th storey tenant space, complete office fit out, not including building core. (BMO Financial Group)

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    Man is this a great looking building.....

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    I'm curious to know if there was ever an option in pre-planning to add perhaps 20-25 floors of either residential or hotel space? I agree it's a stunning building, it's just disappointing that it wasn't planned taller (ditto with CoE Tower). It's beautiful design is hiding in between all of its taller neighbouring towers. Can only truly appreciate and admire this gem up close. Missed opportunity.

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    Yes there originally was a hotel component but that was cut. Someone decided there wasn't going to be enough hotel demand despite the new arena opening a couple of blocks away. Greatly missed opportunity there if you ask me.
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    Yes, it's one heck of a gorgeous building!!

    Are those three boring staked stones suppose to represent some form of art ??

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    It has been there for decades.

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    Indeed and as well as a wee coniferous.
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    Was part of The Works in 1995

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    Doesn't really "Works" for me, but I guess it's okay

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    Job No 135343506-064
    Description: To change the Use from General Retail Stores to a Professional, Financial and Office Support Services Use on the main floor. (Bank of Montreal)
    Location: 10175 - 101 STREET NW
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    Walked past this the other day. How is it that the RHW bays haven't been taken up by restaurants?
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    Apparently a deal with a large restaurant that was to lease the space fell through, so they are now trying to find a replacement(s)... Don't know the name of the restaurant.

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    Someone here or on SSP mentioned Credo and Cora
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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
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    English, please?

    In any case, I was chatting with the owners last week and they're working away at securing a restaurant tenant or two. Previous deal with a Jamie Oliver franchise fell through.

    Pretty spectacular fitness facility they have on the second floor in this building, as well. Felt like it had nearly as much cardio and weight equipment as the Don Wheaton Y (although of course it doesn't). Nice amenity for the tenants to have.

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    ^Do they speak English in CMDUW?
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    CMD_UW on SSP aka ChrisD on C2E?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marcel Petrin View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by IanO
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    English, please?

    In any case, I was chatting with the owners last week and they're working away at securing a restaurant tenant or two. Previous deal with a Jamie Oliver franchise fell through.

    Pretty spectacular fitness facility they have on the second floor in this building, as well. Felt like it had nearly as much cardio and weight equipment as the Don Wheaton Y (although of course it doesn't). Nice amenity for the tenants to have.
    Indeed. The golf sim is a nice touch.
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    Did you finally get a camera or did you clean the greasy lunch fingerprint off your phone cam? Nice shot. Now the rest of RHW needs to be upgraded to match the beauty of this block.
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    It's still his garbagephone, but since it's a bright sunny day it's not as garbage (less noise, but still terrible, terrible colours) as usual.
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    ^^D40 was with me today. Little known fact, that streetscape will be the new standard for the update of RHW.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post
    that streetscape will be the new standard for the update of RHW.
    No complaints. Now let's fill up all that empty space with patios. Sherlock's shouldn't be the only killer street level patio in the area.
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    Missing Key is Scotia and I guess the PM Building's awkward mainfloor.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    It's still his garbagephone, but since it's a bright sunny day it's not as garbage (less noise, but still terrible, terrible colours) as usual.

    lol...so much hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IanO View Post

    ^nope. swing and a miss buddy.
    You have no idea how to operate a DSLR then. I weep for your poor camera. Like a mule with a spinning wheel.

    E: I should have realized it wasn't the garbagephone when the granny numbers weren't burnt into the edge. Still, that poor Nikon.

    E2: I suggest reading your manual & then enrolling in something like this the next time it's offered. Clearly you've got a lot of ambition & drive to take pictures, a little education would go a long way to making them look as good as possible.
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    Looks more compressed to me than anything, which is usually post capture.

    Definitely saturated too though.

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    I can almost guarantee he's shooting on max compression in-camera and VI/VI+ in the Picture Control menu (or he's doing it manually/intentionally after the fact, which is somehow worse). Plus he's slightly off-level & the composition is dubious, but that's personal nitpicking & not technical fouls as it were.

    Source: I've owned many, many Nikons including the exact model he's using.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    I can almost guarantee he's shooting on max compression in-camera and VI/VI+ in the Picture Control menu (or he's doing it manually/intentionally after the fact, which is somehow worse). Plus he's slightly off-level & the composition is dubious, but that's personal nitpicking & not technical fouls as it were.

    Source: I've owned many, many Nikons including the exact model he's using.
    Not everyone has great photography skills. Let's at least be thankful that he's not using the potato.
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    Well aware of how my settings are guys and how post-production impacts these. I quite like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Black Star View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    It's still his garbagephone, but since it's a bright sunny day it's not as garbage (less noise, but still terrible, terrible colours) as usual.

    lol...so much hate.
    Not really. His phone does have a horribly dated camera on it.

    I thought Noodle's comments here were fairly constructive. The colours on his photos definitely need adjustment - he could also change compression somewhere in the chain and end up with higher quality photos. Photoshop and other Adobe tools can reduce the size of photos without drastically compromising the quality of the photo.

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    Ian's certainly well within his rights to shoot his photos however he wants, just like Trump is free to get his steaks well-done & with ketchup.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodib View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Black Star View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    It's still his garbagephone, but since it's a bright sunny day it's not as garbage (less noise, but still terrible, terrible colours) as usual.

    lol...so much hate.
    Not really. His phone does have a horribly dated camera on it.

    I thought Noodle's comments here were fairly constructive. The colours on his photos definitely need adjustment - he could also change compression somewhere in the chain and end up with higher quality photos. Photoshop and other Adobe tools can reduce the size of photos without drastically compromising the quality of the photo.
    Really?! It's a photo. Now people have to worry about meeting others' preposterous aesthetic standards before posting pics?

    If noodle really cares about a DSLR picture that's not up to snuff why doesn't he pull out one of his plentiful expensive cameras and snap a few shots? Oh right, because he doesn't actually come downtown, just whines about it.

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    ^ Agreed, seeing different projects and areas on here that many of us wouldn't see on a regular basis makes this site amazing and useful to many of us. Putting down someone's picture because it doesn't meet your "expert" criteria is both petty and a disservice to this site. Keep your critiques to yourself, better yet, get off your lazy *** and take some pictures yourself.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Radders View Post
    Really?! It's a photo. Now people have to worry about meeting others' preposterous aesthetic standards before posting pics?
    You don't have to worry about it, but if you're unable to take constructive criticism perhaps the internet is not the place for you.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radders View Post
    If noodle really cares about a DSLR picture that's not up to snuff why doesn't he pull out one of his plentiful expensive cameras and snap a few shots?
    I take a hundred or so photos of Edmonton a month, which is a far cry from the thousands I used to take back in the day. I had a nasty run in with a bunch of my stuff being used commercially without compensation or consent so I don't really post much up online any more.

    Quote Originally Posted by Radders View Post
    Oh right, because he doesn't actually come downtown, just whines about it.
    Why would I go Downtown? There's nothing there for me I can't get elsewhere, easier & with less hassle. Downtown is mostly irrelevant to my day-to-day life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hilman View Post
    ^ Agreed, seeing different projects and areas on here that many of us wouldn't see on a regular basis makes this site amazing and useful to many of us. Putting down someone's picture because it doesn't meet your "expert" criteria is both petty and a disservice to this site. Keep your critiques to yourself, better yet, get off your lazy *** and take some pictures yourself.
    Hahaha. I was wondering how long it'd take Hilman the Yesman to come to the defense of poor Ian who's been the victim of (completely warranted & mostly constructive) criticism. Bravo!

    I find it extra hilarious that the guy who's primary contribution is the reposting of other people's work would be so adamant about me going out & creating original content.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moodib View Post
    Looks more compressed to me than anything, which is usually post capture.

    Definitely saturated too though.
    Like a Newfoundland tourism ad.

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    Noodle I've gone on assignment and had a couple pieces published in National Geographic in my time an none were properly composed. In fact, one had star smear from not following the rule of 500, another had chromatic aberration discovered due to a lens defect that I didn't notice until I was in lightroom after the fact. The best editors in the world don't pick photos for their perfectionist quality. And thank God too, there's many people out there who are far better versed on the laws of photography than I am; mine were picked because of setting, story, and the feel of the experience (camping in the desert of Wadi Rum filming the Milky Way under a desert landscape at half moon behind the camera).

    I respect you; I find your posts polarizing yet often insightful, but take my advice and just let it go with the whole photo thing. I don't think I would ever trash somebody for having less knowledge and expertise on an ART-form then I do and it really casts you in a bad light.

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    I appreciate the feedback on my feedback. I'm also cognizant of who I'm providing input to & I know it'll fall entirely on deaf ears, so I will likely drop providing feedback to this one lost cause & just deal with the fact some people evidently prefer pumpkin-esque skin tones, a sky the colour of a vinyl pool liner & a slight lean to their pics as if taken by someone missing a shoe.

    Like I said before, some people prefer their steak well-done with ketchup & there's no accounting for taste.
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    Ignoring compression; care to give feedback on this one? I'll direct you to the massive amount of clipping and gross underexposure within the shot. Certainly not award winning or viable to be purchased by a Travel Agency or a local Magazine because of those things plus a blatant disregard to the rules of third or golden proportions? :P There's a moral here regarding creative expression and subjectivity!


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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Hahaha. I was wondering how long it'd take Hilman the Yesman to come to the defense of poor Ian who's been the victim of (completely warranted & mostly constructive) criticism. Bravo!

    I find it extra hilarious that the guy who's primary contribution is the reposting of other people's work would be so adamant about me going out & creating original content.


    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    I'm also cognizant of who I'm providing input to & I know it'll fall entirely on deaf ears, so I will likely drop providing feedback to this one lost cause & just deal with the fact some people evidently prefer pumpkin-esque skin tones, a sky the colour of a vinyl pool liner & a slight lean to their pics as if taken by someone missing a shoe.

    Like I said before, some people prefer their steak well-done with ketchup & there's no accounting for taste.
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    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Another day, another Ian-mugging or two by noodle.

    Noodle, I hope you'll tire of it, sooner rather than later.
    I'll get tired of it about as soon as you get tired of being utterly sanctimonious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by noodle View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by AShetsen View Post
    Another day, another Ian-mugging or two by noodle.

    Noodle, I hope you'll tire of it, sooner rather than later.
    I'll get tired of it about as soon as you get tired of being utterly sanctimonious.
    I may be sanctimonious, but I'm not a raging creep against one person in particular. Which is all you have become of late. Pathetic, noodle -- absolutely god-damn pathetic.

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    This is the Kelly Ramsay thread still?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    This is the Kelly Ramsay thread still?
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