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    From what I understand as well the ION has arms at some parts, and also seems to be not separated from the road in some parts as well. The valley line SW doesn't have any signal arms and is always separate from traffic or at least is on a part of the road that does not allow traffic to be on the same lane as it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reecemartin View Post
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    Trans Ed said they will use whatever system is in place at the time of the line's opening. Fare regulation is up to the City. City's is aiming for 2020 launch. So, finger's crossed?
    Yep got a bunch of responses from them which is generally filler. The strange point is it doesn't seem that there are real provisions for smart card readers being built in now, I don't look forward to whatever Gerry Rigged solution people get forced to use.
    Our current system is a "honour system", so there are no turnstiles, you can just walk on with/without payment or bus pass. The Vix contact has been signed, so I can only assume installation of the Vix smart fare system would coincide with opening of this Valley Line leg, and if not, one would still be able to use the existing honour system. I agree it would be boneheaded to open the line without smart fare since the City is in talks at the moment and slated for release in 2020.
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    I'm not sure if its completely clear but the vehicles following here are only their because this video was early testing. The trains do have turn signals and break lights with that said.

    Speeds are faster than this as well, the best comparison I can give is that the trains have similar top speeds to buses but accelerate quite a bit faster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by reecemartin View Post
    Speeds are faster than this as well, the best comparison I can give is that the trains have similar top speeds to buses but accelerate quite a bit faster.
    They accelerate faster then our current diesel buses. A transit driver told me the old electric trolley buses had gobs of torque for acceleration, which she loved. You can probably get similar acceleration with a modern diesel electric hybrid bus.

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    Unlikely given that this type of vehicle has 12 powered wheels versus a bus, though I'm not 100% sure

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    Looks like the North Saskatchewan tunnel portal is done, as well as the tunnels.
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    Any pictures?

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    Sorry, no pictures, but a good photo opportunity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reecemartin View Post
    I'm not sure if its completely clear but the vehicles following here are only their because this video was early testing. The trains do have turn signals and break lights with that said.

    Speeds are faster than this as well, the best comparison I can give is that the trains have similar top speeds to buses but accelerate quite a bit faster.
    buses will typically accelerate between 1.5 and 2.0 mphps while lrt will typically be between 2.5 and 3.0 mphps. unlike buses, lrt also doesn’t have to merge with other traffic or resolve the “wait or leapfrog” at stops with more than one vehicle in line.
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    ^ So much for the LRT being a streetcar.
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    Exciting announcement forthcoming today around 1pm.
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    Probably just a photo op for the tunnel breakthrough. Or maybe they've figured out what the giant concrete aberration in the river is?

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    If that's what it is, I hope they play this song during the announcement: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CEjU9KVABao
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    What would be worth getting excited about:

    "We've determined that elevating(or trenching) from north of the traffic circle to south of Whyte ave will be more cost effective than the current at-grade option when operating costs are taken into consideration, so we've requested and been granted approval to make that change."


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    Well that was pretty cool.









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    So the basic tunnel is now dug from one entrance to the other. So what's next?
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    Looks like shotcrete has been installed already. Don't they bring in concrete sections one at a time?
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    Don't they do the shotcrete as it's digging? I recall a video of the Metro line tunnel showing the process.

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    I saw a picture where the monolithic concrete block was being jackhammered. I wonder how the progress was going on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    Don't they do the shotcrete as it's digging? I recall a video of the Metro line tunnel showing the process.
    Good question. So they dig and add shotcrete as they bore?
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    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I saw a picture where the monolithic concrete block was being jackhammered. I wonder how the progress was going on that.
    Not sure what you mean but there's been news footage showing LRT pillars in place around Wagner station if that's what you mean.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alex.L View Post
    Don't they do the shotcrete as it's digging? I recall a video of the Metro line tunnel showing the process.
    Process used for the NLRT tunnel extension.

    http://www.multicretesystems.com/suc...nsion-project/

    The process for building the tunnel consists of:
    • Excavating one meter
    • Spraying 2 inches of Multicrete’s shotcrete safety coat for support using the Huron 4 Transmixer
    • Erecting metal trusses
    • Spraying 4-6 inches of shotcrete for one more meter
    The project is attempting to maintain an advancement of 4 meters per day.
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The_Cat View Post
    I saw a picture where the monolithic concrete block was being jackhammered. I wonder how the progress was going on that.
    Not sure what you mean but there's been news footage showing LRT pillars in place around Wagner station if that's what you mean.

    Nope, he means this:

    Mysterious car-sized slab of concrete delays construction of Valley Line LRT bridge

    Construction of the Valley Line LRT bridge across the North Saskatchewan River has hit a snag thanks to a partially buried concrete slab.


    The car-sized piece of concrete is buried nine metres deep under the berm platform construction crews are working on, and underneath the river and riverbed itself, on the north side of the river near Grierson Hill.


    Due to its size, it cannot be moved, so construction crews are forced to work around the obstruction and redesign the construction area.

    http://edmontonjournal.com/news/loca...ine-lrt-bridge

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    Couldn't you drill and blast to break it up?

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    ^^ Thanks

    Last I heard TransEd isn't to concerned about the block
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    Quote Originally Posted by envaneo View Post
    ^^ Thanks

    Last I heard TransEd isn't to concerned about the block
    Which is a shame as it has a major schedule impact on those of us that used the old bridge multiple times a week!
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    Does it? Isn't the schedule for bridge opening unchanged?
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    Quote Originally Posted by GenWhy? View Post
    Does it? Isn't the schedule for bridge opening unchanged?
    The pedestrian portion of the bridge was supposed to open prior to transit service beginning. This is now no longer the case.

    The Tawatina Bridge includes a pedestrian bridge that will now be delayed by “many months” as a result. It was expected to be completed by 2019. However, the overall construction of the LRT project is not expected to be impacted and crews expect construction to be completed on time in 2020.
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    I'll be honest it still gets me that a lot of the grade separation is wasted when it is only interspersed between at-grade sections.

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    Great photos I like this one the best:

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    Daleks!
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    Just wait until graffiti "artists" tag these things first Doctor.
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    Valley Line LRT construction:





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    One thing I think really does hold true is that a street running section really can liven up an area. Would be nice to see that in these sections of Downtown. Should also get way more people out on the streets.

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