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Old 06-01-2012, 01:17 PM   #1
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Default Target Building Huge Distribution Centre near Calgary

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Calgary sure is turning into quite the distribution centre
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Old 06-01-2012, 01:38 PM   #3
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^it has the right geographic location and rail/roads/air to do it.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:03 PM   #5
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Business centre, distribution centre, power centre................doesn't really leave much for the town to the north does it......................
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:04 PM   #6
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ooops wait......that would be blue collar hillbilly dually diesel driving rig pig centre.........
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:08 PM   #7
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arts centre
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biofuels innovator
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:11 PM   #8
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Pharm...
Hi Tech..
and research too
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:12 PM   #9
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Please.....arts are a joke
Gov decisions made in Calgary
Who do you think makes the decision on the bio fuels and funds them....oohh.... Calgary right
Great to know that we Educate them and then they go to work in Calgary and the rest of the world!
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:13 PM   #10
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and research too
That's really stretching it now......
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:14 PM   #11
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yeah all of those medical breakthroughs are small potatoes compared to a distribution centre.
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Old 06-01-2012, 02:16 PM   #12
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Really...

We have a small but growing Pharm industry here.... some VERY hi profile and succesful saftware creators and Innovative programs to finally turn some of the research at the U of A into marketable materials.

I think you need to stretch your knowledge base and realize that Edmonton has one of the most diverse economies in the country..
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:28 PM   #13
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While Edmonton may be a diversified economy it's still very blue collar. It is by far the most blue collar of any of the major cities in Canada. Very few (if any) of the pharma's and companies that come out of the U of A make profits and if they do they get gobbled up by big players.

This city desperately needs to increase it's head office presence. We have to find a niche in the Canadian economy (besides construction). I wish I knew how to/or what to do to generate some ideas, but something has to be done. It will be hard with that city to the south, with the air connections, transcanada and a huge concentration of head offices.

The big news for the Edmonton today was the Helmets for Hardhats program. Meanwhile Calgary announces 40 story office towers (with another 50 story on the way) and the target distribution centre.

Makes me not want to watch the news.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:49 PM   #14
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^ Precisely.....reinforcing that if your a lunch box Larry or a Harry with a Hammer you come to Edmonton if your white collar and office you go to Calgary............not a good way to be portrayed in the media or any other light........a very unfortunate reality.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:52 PM   #15
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Really...

We have a small but growing Pharm industry here.... some VERY hi profile and succesful saftware creators and Innovative programs to finally turn some of the research at the U of A into marketable materials.

I think you need to stretch your knowledge base and realize that Edmonton has one of the most diverse economies in the country..
What I need is to look downtown and compare it to the other Major Centres in Canada......ie....Vancouver, Calgary, Torornto, Montreal.......and it still looks as pathetic as it did 20 years ago......and everyone that travels here sees the same thing..........that's the reality like it or not.....booster or non.....lover or hater.....it is the rest of the countries perception.....and pretty hard to argue it when you have only built one new office building in 20 yrs.......as said many times before.....lot's of ******** talkers in town but no real walkers.
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:55 PM   #16
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part of the problem is the abundance of negativity
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Old 06-01-2012, 03:59 PM   #17
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^ No problem is vibrant, young, energetic, educated people want to live in a like city.......which Edmonton is not......edmonton is much talk with little action.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:06 PM   #18
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so you suggest we kidnap some vibrant young energetic educated people who, in turn, will bring other like-minded people?

Or should the movers and shakers here in town just cater specifically to 23yr old new graduates and ignore the rest of the population?
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:19 PM   #19
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How about more complaining?
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:20 PM   #20
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I agree, Edmonton has a lot of catching up to do. We have to get organized with a plan.

We're doing better, but Edmonton and area have to work on collaboration.
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:29 PM   #21
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How about more complaining?
Want some cheese with that whine?? hehe
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Old 06-01-2012, 04:49 PM   #22
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Good old Oscar The Grouch. Shove the muppet back in the garbage can and weld the lid it shut.
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Old 06-01-2012, 05:34 PM   #23
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Ooooh Montreal, what a booming mecca.... wait, there's no jobs there? Every day you risk being crushed to death by ancient, shoddily built infrastructure or buildings that are breaking apart around you?

Edmonton sure does suck, with our jobs, money, huge redevelopment projects, investment in infrastructure...
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:03 PM   #24
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Didn't Montreal lose most of their head offices to Toronto? And yet it's one of my favorite cities in Canada.
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Old 06-01-2012, 06:19 PM   #25
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Relax, they're building this warehouse in Balzac...
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Old 06-01-2012, 11:26 PM   #26
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Edmonton surpasses Calgary as the liveable city, no doubt
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:11 AM   #27
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ooops wait......that would be blue collar hillbilly dually diesel driving rig pig centre.........
In Balzac, they're going to live up to their namesake's reputation...

"Balzac's work habits are legendary – he did not work quickly, but toiled with an incredible focus and dedication. His preferred method was to eat a light meal at five or six in the afternoon, then sleep until midnight. He then rose and wrote for many hours, fueled by innumerable cups of black coffee. He would often work for fifteen hours or more at a stretch; he claimed to have once worked for 48 hours with only three hours of rest in the middle.[52]"
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It is going to use up 80 acres! Would we want more loss of valuable agricultural land around Edmonton? Is there even enough marginal land around Edmonton to sustain its existing growth without the loss of higher value land?

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Old 07-01-2012, 09:13 AM   #28
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Relax, they're building this warehouse in Balzac...
Agreed.

The Edmonton region is actually outperforming the Calgary region in overall job creation. According to the Stats Can Labour Force Surveys, between December 2006 and December 2011, the Edmonton region added new 107,000 jobs compared to 59,200 new jobs added in the Calgary region. See Table 5 here: http://www.statcan.gc.ca/bsolc/olc-c...opg=1&lang=eng

Admittedly, head offices are a different story but that's a topic for another thread.
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Old 07-01-2012, 10:44 AM   #29
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Edmonton surpasses Calgary as the liveable city, no doubt

Agree. That's why I moved back to Edmonton from Calgary. The best thing about Calgary (the mountains) is 100km away
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Old 07-01-2012, 04:14 PM   #30
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Don't understimate the Govt, the refineries and especially, the University of Alberta!
After all isn't it better to build on what we have and what we're good at instead of envying others?
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:41 PM   #31
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ooops wait......that would be blue collar hillbilly dually diesel driving rig pig centre.........

Blue Collar?

Hmmm....

Is that your fancy meaning of White Trash?
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Old 07-01-2012, 07:58 PM   #32
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^ yup.
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Old 07-01-2012, 08:51 PM   #33
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Wow!!

And I thought I hated Edmonton.
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Old 07-01-2012, 09:26 PM   #34
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A Blue Collar thought for Oscar care of Bachman Turner Overdrive;

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^ yup.
You wouldn't get your shiny office towers in Calgary with out skilled, educated blue collar workers (who likely drive trucks too). I'll live the hillbilly to you, pretentious prick.
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Port Alberta = Port Calgary
The sad thing is, it didn't have to be that way. Here is a post of mine in the port Alberta thread:

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...Calgary doesn't have all the roads (not even a complete ring road, and complaints about the lack of a tunnel), but they have been able to build considerable storage capacity (1.8 million square feet), and are still doing it. Its easy to find excuses to not up your sleeves and work, but while YEG and its partners dithered, Calgary Airport Authority just went ahead and raised the money and built even during the financial crises (right after was the best time to build with cheap labour). Now they are so far ahead that Port Alberta will never get close to catching up. By the time the pretty consultants plans are all complete (like in post 101), we will probably be in the grip of a severe labor shortage, which no doubt will double or triple the cost compared to what Calgary Airport Authority has paid (another reason then to dither some more perhaps?). Its a horrible missed opportunity, fortune favors the bold, leaders who aren't scared to put their necks on the line / don't need a consultant to blame if things go wrong, not the timid (i.e. the incompetent). Heads should roll.
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^ yup.
You wouldn't get your shiny office towers in Calgary with out skilled, educated blue collar workers (who likely drive trucks too). I'll live the hillbilly to you, pretentious prick.
And once that shiny tower is built and for decades following filled with young white collar suit wearing wearing employees who take lunch and strolls and shopping trips in a dense vibrant active core where will you be....perhaps doing some maintenance work on that building or up north swinging that skilled hammer on another oilsands project or perhaps constructing another mega strip mall in the suburbs next to the fantastic Edmonton ring road which adds to the reason to keep people away from the core. Hmmmm which kind of city do I want.....the righteous suburban **** hole or the pretentious urban dynamic core.......looks like the cities have already made that decision on their own.
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The sad thing is, it didn't have to be that way. Here is a post of mine in the port Alberta thread:

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...Calgary doesn't have all the roads (not even a complete ring road, and complaints about the lack of a tunnel), but they have been able to build considerable storage capacity (1.8 million square feet), and are still doing it. Its easy to find excuses to not up your sleeves and work, but while YEG and its partners dithered, Calgary Airport Authority just went ahead and raised the money and built even during the financial crises (right after was the best time to build with cheap labour). Now they are so far ahead that Port Alberta will never get close to catching up. By the time the pretty consultants plans are all complete (like in post 101), we will probably be in the grip of a severe labor shortage, which no doubt will double or triple the cost compared to what Calgary Airport Authority has paid (another reason then to dither some more perhaps?). Its a horrible missed opportunity, fortune favors the bold, leaders who aren't scared to put their necks on the line / don't need a consultant to blame if things go wrong, not the timid (i.e. the incompetent). Heads should roll.
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum...lberta+calgary
Bang on, while Edmonton whines and whimpers like the government town that it is the power brokers and do'ers in Calgary get it done. Shame on Edmonton.

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Old 08-01-2012, 04:04 PM   #39
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Oscar, the urban utopia that you demand actually exists, but it's not here. You sound like a pathetic soul who, for whatever sad reason, expects the world around them to change for you to find any contentment. Gawd forbid I actually say this on this site since I'm a lurker but Edmonton will probably never transform into the urban utopia that your heart desires for any satisfaction in life. At least not for a few decades.

What keeps you here? It doesn't sound like you're from here though. The blue collar, pickcup truck populace you so disdain will only grow, certainly at a greater rate than the suit wearing white collar sector. Not all cities will be wordly, power centers. Big deal, get over it or move on. It is what it is... Sure, Edmonton could be 'better' than it is. I've been hearing this forever now and I get frustrated too but for different reasons. I myself prefer an Austin type of city for the music culture and unpretentiousness (I can't stand pretense...must be the hillbilly in my roots) and love Montreal for it's extroverted creative scene with the legendary urban vibe and food culture. Ditto for New Orleans, albeit it's dangerous but cool and real. But I choose to remain at this time.

Why remain here if 'it' only makes you miserable? The fact is you choose to stay and ultimately choose your attitude to your life circumstances. You choose to hate this demographic and look down at them, classest that you are, but it's more a reflection of you than anything. Life is bloody short and what a waste to choose to remain miserable surrounded by the low class pee-ons that populate this city

What are you waiting for?
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And you will likely be able to find a lot of people willing to pay for your ticket out.
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Old 09-01-2012, 05:16 AM   #43
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Wow - Ballzac got a Target distribution center?

Awesome! I'm moving to Calgary for sure!
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This thread has nothing to do with raves about Edmonton so I'm moving it to General Discussions.
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This thread has nothing to do with raves about Edmonton so I'm moving it to General Discussions.
I guess it depends on your perspective, your sense of team.

Maybe it's time to have "Raves About Alberta" forum and to redefine/narrow the current Raves forum.
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^ Or start your own Connect2Alberta forum
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Now that would be interesting!

Of course, you'd need a war games section for all the fighting.
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