Feb #'s - UNREAL

IanO · 08-03-2007, 05:36 PM

Feb #'s
Dom 357,138 +14.5%
TB 67,365 +26.5%
Int 36,361 +49%
total 461,014 +18.3%

DanC · 08-03-2007, 06:22 PM

6 million this year?

Brentk · 08-03-2007, 08:17 PM

Anyone hear of solid rumours on the transborder side? We need that IAH connection! Actually DFW and IAH would probably do fine.

Chump · 08-03-2007, 10:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanC

6 million this year?

No doot aboot it

psiebold1 · 09-03-2007, 02:10 AM

No one says that here. Where are you from sir?

!!!

JayBee · 09-03-2007, 09:35 AM

Despite the fact that this is trouble brewing for terminal capacity, plus that my guess on the year's numbers looks to be surpassed as early as fricken October, I couldn't be more excited about this. As I said about forever ago, I believe we will continue with above average growth until we reach 75% of Cowtown's numbers. (Then the real work starts...)

I can hardly wait also to see the percentage improvement for non-U.S. international in and after May when LHR flies daily, while the sunspot charter bulk simultaneously wanes. We should see real fun numbers like growth between 200 and 300%... (Unfortunately we all realise that 200% over very little equals not all that much, and that it just reflects ridiculous underservice historically, but fun numbers to look at anyway, while I pack up Chump's potatoe sake

...)

aviationphoto · 09-03-2007, 09:59 AM

I have a spreadsheet where I track our fuel figures (since 198

and compares passenger growth over the past 10 years. 6 million passengers might be conservative!

I pulled out a copy of the Edmonton Airport's 1998 Master Plan and if they only knew...

2003
Low 3,490,625
Medium 4,405,498
High 4,526,746

2008
Low 4,033,240
Medium 5,090,330
High 5,328,843

2013
Low 4,630,412
Medium 5,844,017
High 6,145,765

2015
Low 4,893,346
Medium 6,175,864
High 6,494,746

2018
Low 5,316,004
Medium 6,709,298
High 7,055,723

Easy to see that this is beyond expectations and I couldn't agree more that it proves Edmonton was undersold for too long.

Brentk · 09-03-2007, 10:14 AM

aviationiphoto, do you have run a website with your photos? If so I like your website.

I agree, I think YEG needs to really look at how they do calculations at the moment. Just look at how they predict 10 years in advance at the moment that the economy should do well. There will be another market cool off, but a nasty bust is not in anyone predictions at the moment = more growth in YEG, especially considering we were underserved for so long.

IanO · 09-03-2007, 01:43 PM

say we continued 18.3% over last yr....we hit

6165691

which is only 50,000 or so less than 1,000,000 in growth over 2006.

Crazy and possible.

aviationphoto · 09-03-2007, 02:27 PM

[quote="Brentk"]aviationiphoto, do you have run a website with your photos? If so I like your website. [quote]

I do have a website. I have to admit it is a bit neglected due to the fact I am busier these days and I hope you take a peak. Lots of photos from YEG.

http://www.stratosphereaviation.com

Chump · 09-03-2007, 08:07 PM

I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

chupa · 09-03-2007, 10:07 PM

2007 will be insane!!!I expect we will see more service enhancements by the carriers and some new routes/carriers soon...The little airport that everyone said couldnt,is quickly turning heads.I spoke to a pilot today from YYC and he cocked his head like a confused golden retriever when we spoke about YEG's boom...

IanO · 09-03-2007, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chump

I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

honestly...other than parking (which is being worked on) the only thing i can really complain about (other than old terminal baggage) is the lack of decent places to eat and drink.

24karat · 09-03-2007, 10:28 PM

I'll be flying YEG to YVR to HKG at the end of the month. Would my flight be international or domestic?

DebraW · 09-03-2007, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24karat

I'll be flying YEG to YVR to HKG at the end of the month. Would my flight be international or domestic?

Domestic...then trans-border (if you are landing in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Honolulu etc.) then it becomes international. In other words, the international component would be “credited” to Vancouver or the trans-border stopover locale.

m0nkyman · 10-03-2007, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chump

I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

Dude, you are so not 'west coast'. 3 words? That's for tea. This is seriously my wife's order:
"triple grande non-fat soya mocha valencia, half-syrup and dry". Sometimes she does the same, but makes it a caramel macchiatto.

I have to walk most Edmontonian 'baristas' through it.

Back on topic. I think the february numbers might be a titch higher due to the fact that the snow started so early this year. People were starting to get buggy and paying anything to go anywhere there wasn't snow.

Chump · 10-03-2007, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkyman

"...non-fat soya..."

isn't that redundant?
If I'm right does that make me an honorary west-coastian?

24karat · 10-03-2007, 11:51 AM

Check this page out. A guy is attempting to visit every Starbuck's in the world.
http://www.starbuckseverywhere.net/
Now I wonder how many Tim Horton's shops I've been to?

Along with the increased numbers of passengers comes an increased amount in the airport improvement tax vault which can only bode well for the future of YEG.

amanzano · 10-03-2007, 05:42 PM

now I don't know how off topic this is...but I went to pick up people at the airport 5 times this past week and we waited at least 20 minutes (each time) at the conveyor belts for their luggage.

with 6M pax on the horizon...hopefully EIA will be able to work out the bugs on this one.

IanO · 10-03-2007, 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by amanzano

now I don't know how off topic this is...but I went to pick up people at the airport 5 times this past week and we waited at least 20 minutes (each time) at the conveyor belts for their luggage.

with 6M pax on the horizon...hopefully EIA will be able to work out the bugs on this one.

yup ive been 15-20min each time as well...however, past 2 times at YVR has been 10-15mins.

Brentk · 10-03-2007, 07:12 PM

I noticed today that WJ is flying people from the Canada Winter Games to YEG. Made me think, does anyone think the WestJet or AirCanada might start service to a place like Whitehorse from Edmonton?

I still think the development of YEG to the north is not being utilized. Even a flight on Air Canada to Anchorage seems logical.

m0nkyman · 10-03-2007, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chump

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkyman

"...non-fat soya..."

isn't that redundant?
If I'm right does that make me an honorary west-coastian?

Nope. Some people get soy lattes with whipped cream. No idea why...

IanO · 10-03-2007, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brentk

I noticed today that WJ is flying people from the Canada Winter Games to YEG. Made me think, does anyone think the WestJet or AirCanada might start service to a place like Whitehorse from Edmonton?

I still think the development of YEG to the north is not being utilized. Even a flight on Air Canada to Anchorage seems logical.

Whitehorse and Anchorage would be great links...

aviationphoto · 11-03-2007, 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by djgirl

Quote:

Originally Posted by 24karat

I'll be flying YEG to YVR to HKG at the end of the month. Would my flight be international or domestic?

Domestic...then trans-border (if you are landing in San Francisco, Los Angeles, Honolulu etc.) then it becomes international. In other words, the international component would be “credited” to Vancouver or the trans-border stopover locale.

That is the exact issue that faced the Edmonton Airports for years! The airlines would report pax movements from YEG but not report final destinations. So for all the pax riding to Toronto/Calgary/Vancouver and then going on, the airport couldn't direct their marketing towards flights offering the same service to final destinations.

Now that passenger movements are taking transborder and international flights, it will be increasing easier to make sound strategic marketing directions with accurate results. So the "secret" is locked into the vaults of the airlines so that they can develop their own markets. So the sum of the "need" is never addressed until one carrier can make it viable.

psiebold1 · 11-03-2007, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chump

I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

Dude, you are so not 'west coast'. 3 words? That's for tea. This is seriously my wife's order:
"triple grande non-fat soya mocha valencia, half-syrup and dry". Sometimes she does the same, but makes it a caramel macchiatto.

I have to walk most Edmontonian 'baristas' through it.

Back on topic. I think the february numbers might be a titch higher due to the fact that the snow started so early this year. People were starting to get buggy and paying anything to go anywhere there wasn't snow.

I hope that never becomes a norm - or atleast a pretentious industry of coffee. I hope we can avoid it. Can't we do something our way? How about elk and bison cuts? Berries?

I want to be proud that we can give a scrunched up face at such orders!

Chump · 11-03-2007, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Xelebes

Quote:

Originally Posted by m0nkyman

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chump

I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

Dude, you are so not 'west coast'. 3 words? That's for tea. This is seriously my wife's order:
"triple grande non-fat soya mocha valencia, half-syrup and dry". Sometimes she does the same, but makes it a caramel macchiatto.

I have to walk most Edmontonian 'baristas' through it.

Back on topic. I think the february numbers might be a titch higher due to the fact that the snow started so early this year. People were starting to get buggy and paying anything to go anywhere there wasn't snow.

I hope that never becomes a norm - or atleast a pretentious industry of coffee. I hope we can avoid it. Can't we do something our way? How about elk and bison cuts? Berries?

I want to be proud that we can give a scrunched up face at such orders!

Whether it's coffee or swarms of people in the airport the next few years, resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

IanO · 11-03-2007, 10:54 PM

we really need that TIM's in there...and manchu wok...but please a SB and a subway.

travis · 11-03-2007, 11:01 PM

Yes, the Starbucks is a must, but Subway is nasty

IanO · 11-03-2007, 11:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travis

Yes, the Starbucks is a must, but Subway is nasty

any healthy sandwhich, grab and go type place....

travis · 11-03-2007, 11:14 PM

I wish that they would open a stand-alone Safeway Deli. I don't know how feasible that would be but safeway makes damn good sandwiches.

53latitude · 11-03-2007, 11:28 PM

Something with a Chilli's to go type deal would be perfect. For those on the run they can sit, others can purchase a sandwich for their flight.

Sonic Death Monkey · 12-03-2007, 12:17 AM

Want a good sammich grab & go? SUNTERRA

What better place for an international airport than one that is Alberta owned and operated and uses locally-grown products?

travis · 12-03-2007, 12:32 AM

Sunterra is so overrated. Half the customers are posers.

Sonic Death Monkey · 12-03-2007, 12:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by travis

Sunterra is so overrated. Half the customers are posers.

HEY! I resemble that comment!

Their sammiches are good though.

m0nkyman · 12-03-2007, 10:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by IanO

Quote:

Originally Posted by travis

Yes, the Starbucks is a must, but Subway is nasty

any healthy sandwhich, grab and go type place....

Quizno's would kick *** at the airport.

chupa · 12-03-2007, 11:09 AM

Kinda getting off-topic on this one,maybe we need a thread on what resturants we need at EG...I agree a large food court would be a good thing inside the airport.As for the surrounding area a good resturant would be key.

Brentk · 12-03-2007, 12:54 PM

U.S. Open Skies an Important Milestone for Canada, Canada's Airports Say - Airports urge federal government to continue liberalization of air service regimes
Monday March 12, 2:10 pm ET
WASHINGTON, March 12 /CNW Telbec/ - The Canadian Airports Council today hailed the signing of the new Open Skies agreement with the United States an important aviation milestone for Canada, and urged the government to continue its initiatives to liberalize Canada's air service regimes with other important trade, tourism and transit markets.

"Open Skies with the U.S. is an important achievement for Canada - One that will provide Canadian airports and the communities they serve increased opportunities to market themselves on the world stage," said CAC President and CEO Jim Facette. "Yet, for airlines to take full advantage of the new freedoms afforded by Open Skies with the U.S., the Canadian government must continue its important work of liberalizing air regimes with third countries."

Canada and the U.S. on Open Skies announced the historic Open Skies agreement in November 2005 after a series of talks involving both governments and representatives from the airline and airports sectors. The agreement, which now comes into effect, removes bilateral restrictions on pricing, alliances and will allow carriers from either side to carry passengers on routes beyond the country to a third nation.

"As economic and social gateways for the communities they serve, Canada's airports have an important stake in the outcome of bilateral air talks between Canada and foreign markets and played a valuable role in the talks that led us to today's historic event," said Mr. Facette. "In keeping with this government's commitment to transparency in government, Canada's airports would welcome the opportunity to again represent community interests during talks with other key markets in the coming months and years."

The federal government committed itself to sign more Open Skies-type agreements in its recently announced Blue Sky policy on international air service.

About the Canadian Airports Council

The Canadian Airports Council (CAC) is the voice for Canada's airports. Its 45 members encompass more than 150 airports, including all of the National Airports System (NAS) airports and most significant municipal airports in every province and territory. Together, CAC members handle virtually all of the nation's air cargo and international passenger traffic and 95% of domestic passenger traffic. They create well in excess of $30 billion in economic activity in the communities they serve. And more than 150,000 jobs are directly associated with CAC member airports, generating a payroll of more than $8 billion annually.

08-03-2007, 05:36 PM	#1
IanO Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton	Feb #'s - UNREAL Feb #'s Dom 357,138 +14.5% TB 67,365 +26.5% Int 36,361 +49% total 461,014 +18.3% __________________ inspiration or mediocrity www.decl.org Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

08-03-2007, 06:22 PM	#2
DanC Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Strathearn, Edmonton	6 million this year? __________________ Thinks density = vibrancy...crazy I know.

09-03-2007, 09:59 AM	#7
aviationphoto Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leduc, Alberta	I have a spreadsheet where I track our fuel figures (since 198and compares passenger growth over the past 10 years. 6 million passengers might be conservative! I pulled out a copy of the Edmonton Airport's 1998 Master Plan and if they only knew... 2003 Low 3,490,625 Medium 4,405,498 High 4,526,746 2008 Low 4,033,240 Medium 5,090,330 High 5,328,843 2013 Low 4,630,412 Medium 5,844,017 High 6,145,765 2015 Low 4,893,346 Medium 6,175,864 High 6,494,746 2018 Low 5,316,004 Medium 6,709,298 High 7,055,723 Easy to see that this is beyond expectations and I couldn't agree more that it proves Edmonton was undersold for too long.

09-03-2007, 01:43 PM	#9
IanO Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton	say we continued 18.3% over last yr....we hit 6165691 which is only 50,000 or so less than 1,000,000 in growth over 2006. Crazy and possible. __________________ inspiration or mediocrity www.decl.org Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

11-03-2007, 10:54 PM	#27
IanO Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton	we really need that TIM's in there...and manchu wok...but please a SB and a subway. __________________ inspiration or mediocrity www.decl.org Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

08-03-2007, 08:17 PM	#3
Brentk Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back in Edmonton for the 3rd time	Anyone hear of solid rumours on the transborder side? We need that IAH connection! Actually DFW and IAH would probably do fine.

09-03-2007, 02:10 AM	#5
psiebold1 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Edmonton	No one says that here. Where are you from sir? !!!

09-03-2007, 09:35 AM	#6
JayBee Addicted to C2E Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Flux	Despite the fact that this is trouble brewing for terminal capacity, plus that my guess on the year's numbers looks to be surpassed as early as fricken October, I couldn't be more excited about this. As I said about forever ago, I believe we will continue with above average growth until we reach 75% of Cowtown's numbers. (Then the real work starts...) I can hardly wait also to see the percentage improvement for non-U.S. international in and after May when LHR flies daily, while the sunspot charter bulk simultaneously wanes. We should see real fun numbers like growth between 200 and 300%... (Unfortunately we all realise that 200% over very little equals not all that much, and that it just reflects ridiculous underservice historically, but fun numbers to look at anyway, while I pack up Chump's potatoe sake ...)

09-03-2007, 10:14 AM	#8
Brentk Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back in Edmonton for the 3rd time	aviationiphoto, do you have run a website with your photos? If so I like your website. I agree, I think YEG needs to really look at how they do calculations at the moment. Just look at how they predict 10 years in advance at the moment that the economy should do well. There will be another market cool off, but a nasty bust is not in anyone predictions at the moment = more growth in YEG, especially considering we were underserved for so long.

09-03-2007, 02:27 PM	#10
aviationphoto Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Leduc, Alberta	[quote="Brentk"]aviationiphoto, do you have run a website with your photos? If so I like your website. [quote] I do have a website. I have to admit it is a bit neglected due to the fact I am busier these days and I hope you take a peak. Lots of photos from YEG. http://www.stratosphereaviation.com

09-03-2007, 08:07 PM	#11
Chump Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Saskatchewan	I believe its against some law somewhere to serve 6mill pax per year and not have a Starbucks. All coffee orders must be at least 3 words and 8 syllables long.

09-03-2007, 10:07 PM	#12
chupa Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Century Park.	2007 will be insane!!!I expect we will see more service enhancements by the carriers and some new routes/carriers soon...The little airport that everyone said couldnt,is quickly turning heads.I spoke to a pilot today from YYC and he cocked his head like a confused golden retriever when we spoke about YEG's boom...

09-03-2007, 10:28 PM	#14
24karat Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton - Blue Quill	I'll be flying YEG to YVR to HKG at the end of the month. Would my flight be international or domestic?

10-03-2007, 11:51 AM	#18
24karat Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton - Blue Quill	Check this page out. A guy is attempting to visit every Starbuck's in the world. http://www.starbuckseverywhere.net/ Now I wonder how many Tim Horton's shops I've been to? Along with the increased numbers of passengers comes an increased amount in the airport improvement tax vault which can only bode well for the future of YEG.

10-03-2007, 05:42 PM	#19
amanzano Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edmonton	now I don't know how off topic this is...but I went to pick up people at the airport 5 times this past week and we waited at least 20 minutes (each time) at the conveyor belts for their luggage. with 6M pax on the horizon...hopefully EIA will be able to work out the bugs on this one.

10-03-2007, 07:12 PM	#21
Brentk Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back in Edmonton for the 3rd time	I noticed today that WJ is flying people from the Canada Winter Games to YEG. Made me think, does anyone think the WestJet or AirCanada might start service to a place like Whitehorse from Edmonton? I still think the development of YEG to the north is not being utilized. Even a flight on Air Canada to Anchorage seems logical.

11-03-2007, 11:01 PM	#28
travis Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Yes, the Starbucks is a must, but Subway is nasty

11-03-2007, 11:14 PM	#30
travis Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	I wish that they would open a stand-alone Safeway Deli. I don't know how feasible that would be but safeway makes damn good sandwiches.

11-03-2007, 11:28 PM	#31
53latitude Partially Addicted to C2E Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: E-town!	Something with a Chilli's to go type deal would be perfect. For those on the run they can sit, others can purchase a sandwich for their flight.

12-03-2007, 12:17 AM	#32
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	Want a good sammich grab & go? SUNTERRA What better place for an international airport than one that is Alberta owned and operated and uses locally-grown products?

12-03-2007, 12:32 AM	#33
travis Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	Sunterra is so overrated. Half the customers are posers.

12-03-2007, 11:09 AM	#36
chupa Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Century Park.	Kinda getting off-topic on this one,maybe we need a thread on what resturants we need at EG...I agree a large food court would be a good thing inside the airport.As for the surrounding area a good resturant would be key.

12-03-2007, 12:54 PM	#37
Brentk Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Back in Edmonton for the 3rd time	U.S. Open Skies an Important Milestone for Canada, Canada's Airports Say - Airports urge federal government to continue liberalization of air service regimes Monday March 12, 2:10 pm ET WASHINGTON, March 12 /CNW Telbec/ - The Canadian Airports Council today hailed the signing of the new Open Skies agreement with the United States an important aviation milestone for Canada, and urged the government to continue its initiatives to liberalize Canada's air service regimes with other important trade, tourism and transit markets. "Open Skies with the U.S. is an important achievement for Canada - One that will provide Canadian airports and the communities they serve increased opportunities to market themselves on the world stage," said CAC President and CEO Jim Facette. "Yet, for airlines to take full advantage of the new freedoms afforded by Open Skies with the U.S., the Canadian government must continue its important work of liberalizing air regimes with third countries." Canada and the U.S. on Open Skies announced the historic Open Skies agreement in November 2005 after a series of talks involving both governments and representatives from the airline and airports sectors. The agreement, which now comes into effect, removes bilateral restrictions on pricing, alliances and will allow carriers from either side to carry passengers on routes beyond the country to a third nation. "As economic and social gateways for the communities they serve, Canada's airports have an important stake in the outcome of bilateral air talks between Canada and foreign markets and played a valuable role in the talks that led us to today's historic event," said Mr. Facette. "In keeping with this government's commitment to transparency in government, Canada's airports would welcome the opportunity to again represent community interests during talks with other key markets in the coming months and years." The federal government committed itself to sign more Open Skies-type agreements in its recently announced Blue Sky policy on international air service. About the Canadian Airports Council The Canadian Airports Council (CAC) is the voice for Canada's airports. Its 45 members encompass more than 150 airports, including all of the National Airports System (NAS) airports and most significant municipal airports in every province and territory. Together, CAC members handle virtually all of the nation's air cargo and international passenger traffic and 95% of domestic passenger traffic. They create well in excess of $30 billion in economic activity in the communities they serve. And more than 150,000 jobs are directly associated with CAC member airports, generating a payroll of more than $8 billion annually.