New Ashtrays on Jasper Ave.

etownboarder · 28-06-2009, 08:43 PM

I just wanted to give a round of applause to the city for installing new ashtrays along Jasper Avenue with signs above the ashtrays reminding people that there is a $250 fine for throwing butts on the ground. On the block in front of Enterprise Square, there were maybe 6 of them in that one single block. I was very impressed. Thoughts? Comments?

lat · 28-06-2009, 08:51 PM

Were they being used?

etownboarder · 28-06-2009, 10:21 PM

I didn't notice many butts on the ground, maybe only a couple and they looked like they had been there for a while. So yea, I think they must have been used. I think it's a great start. They look cool with the lil signs overtop of them too.

ChrisD · 28-06-2009, 10:22 PM

Yes, I've noticed a number of these around the City and they are being used.

etownboarder · 28-06-2009, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisD

Yes, I've noticed a number of these around the City and they are being used.

Glad to hear it.

DTrobotnik · 29-06-2009, 12:10 PM

finally

IanO · 29-06-2009, 12:48 PM

great initiative

etownboarder · 29-06-2009, 01:00 PM

Yea, you really have to see them to appreciate how great they are. Definitely go take a look at Jasper Ave, especially in front of Enterprise Square and Commerce Place.

Alex.L · 29-06-2009, 03:58 PM

they were installing them today in front of Telus and New City. looks like there's one basically every 20 - 30 ft, which is excellent. I'd like to see these at LRT stations (outside of course), and at bus terminals as well.

etownboarder · 29-06-2009, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ander

they were installing them today in front of Telus and New City. looks like there's one basically every 20 - 30 ft, which is excellent. I'd like to see these at LRT stations (outside of course), and at bus terminals as well.

I noticed them at the South Campus bus terminal. I only saw a couple, but I wasn't really looking for them at the time.

IanO · 29-06-2009, 04:27 PM

on the same note, i love the new garbage/recycling stations in the LRT stations.

We need that on jasper as well.... but obviously more enclosed.

etownboarder · 29-06-2009, 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by IanO

on the same note, i love the new garbage/recycling stations in the LRT stations.

We need that on jasper as well.... but obviously more enclosed.

Agreed, they're really great. This way I don't feel guilty for putting my drink can/bottle in the garbage... I can just stick it in the blue bag.

ChrisD · 29-06-2009, 07:48 PM

Another nice thing about these, is that it will reduce the number of folks scouraging the sidewalk looking for butts to smoke.

blainehamilton · 29-06-2009, 10:26 PM

Put some bylaw cops around with a ticket book for littering fines. I bet they will still be busy...

Great to see this in place!

IKAN104 · 30-06-2009, 10:53 AM

Can anybody snap a pic? I don't get downtown much anymore.

etownboarder · 30-06-2009, 11:10 AM

I will take a pic on Wednesday.

Gord Lacey · 30-06-2009, 11:20 AM

Too bad they don't have ashtrays in cars and trucks. I always see people who are "forced" into throwing their butts out the window because they have no place to put them. If only...

I haven't seen the ones on Jasper Ave, but I was impressed with the ashtrays on Whyte, and the words stenciled onto the ground pointing to the ashtrays.

Though it's likely a waste of time, could we report people in cars that toss the butts out the window? Would that be a police matter, or bylaw (I'm hoping it's not police since I wouldn't even bother them with something like this)?

Gord

Blueline · 30-06-2009, 12:37 PM

these are also on and around white ave
signage has been spray painted on the sidewalks however

etownboarder · 30-06-2009, 03:16 PM

The little signs should have been posted above them like they are downtown... much more effective IMO.

Sonic Death Monkey · 30-06-2009, 03:29 PM

The painted signs on the sidewalk are barely visible.

Blueline · 30-06-2009, 04:31 PM

....and the new ashtrays look like cigarettes...
It is a start

jstock · 30-06-2009, 08:12 PM

I would love to see this progam expanded to cover the entire downtown or at least all the bar districts.

etownboarder · 30-06-2009, 10:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jstock

I would love to see this progam expanded to covervthe entire downtown or at least all the bar districts.

Agreed...

Here's a picture of what they look like:

IKAN104 · 01-07-2009, 08:54 AM

The picture's not showing up. When I paste the url to the pic in another tab I get "unauthorized".

etownboarder · 01-07-2009, 08:56 AM

I'll try to fix it. I post so few pics on here that I take that I always forget how to do it properly.

etownboarder · 01-07-2009, 09:14 AM

Does it work now? Let me know...

ChrisD · 01-07-2009, 10:08 AM

Nope...

etownboarder · 01-07-2009, 10:08 AM

WTF? I can see it.

Oh well... I give up for today. I wish we could just upload pictures to the site directly. So much easier.

etownboarder · 09-07-2009, 03:46 PM

City tells smokers where to put their butts
Last Updated: Thursday, July 9, 2009 | 2:13 PM MT
CBC News

City officials hope new ashtrays like this one will help keep cigarette butts off sidewalks. (CBC) The City of Edmonton wants smokers to keep their butts off sidewalks.

The city launched two pilot projects on Thursday that include a public education campaign and providing more street ashtrays.

Street teams, comprised of students hired for the summer, will hand out pocket ashtrays to smokers on Jasper Avenue downtown and on Whyte Avenue in Old Strathcona.

"It's part of keeping our city clean because as you all know we've had a lot of criticism about the litter on the streets … cigarette butts are 36 per cent of all the litter on our streets," Coun. Jane Batty said.

Full Story: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/st...tte-butts.html

etownboarder · 09-07-2009, 03:47 PM

IKAN104 · 09-07-2009, 04:29 PM

Oh, they look cool. Thanks for the pics.

raz0469 · 09-07-2009, 04:29 PM

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The ashtray chosen by the city is a streamlined, silver cyclinder that attaches to poles, Batty said. Each one costs $150.

I would absolutely love to know why they cost so much. Does that include installation? Or it that simply the price for the receptacle? That's ludicrous for a small cylinder a couple inches in diameter and a foot to 18" long.

Cost aside though, I'm glad steps are being taken. But the biggest obstacle is going to be smoker's attitudes, not lack of appropriate receptacles.

Medwards · 09-07-2009, 04:43 PM

the biggest cost is making them bum proof I'm sure...

noodle · 09-07-2009, 06:40 PM

Yeah, vandalproofed anything is expensive. I took a close look at one and was really impressed with the design and workmanship. I think they'll hold up well. I'd sooner pay $150 once than $25 every 3 months until the program gets cut in a budget crisis and we're back where we were.

Montrosian · 10-07-2009, 03:18 PM

I hope these ashtrays get emptied on a regular basis. If they do then it's a slam dunk for sure

Edmontonfan · 10-07-2009, 04:34 PM

Are they weather proof? Otherwise the stench of soggy smokes will be horrible!

Edmonton PRT · 14-07-2009, 12:17 AM

Now we just need those antique spittoons and gum receptacles. What`s with all this spitting anyway, it is like a fashion statement these days. The postman does it, women do it, people spit before getting into a car and as soon as they get out. Is it related to water bottles, like some spit hydration therapy. A truly disgusting habit.

RTA · 14-07-2009, 08:31 AM

The worst is when people spit on the floor of the bus. The bus! The same one they're riding in! I don't get it.

MylesC · 14-07-2009, 06:02 PM

As I predicted, it seems most smokers are still too lazy to use the one in front of my building. The Cambridge bus stop is still always littered with butts everwhere even though a butt stop is three feet away.

richardW · 14-07-2009, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by RTA

The worst is when people spit on the floor of the bus. The bus! The same one they're riding in! I don't get it.

whats the deal with spitting anyways? I dont get why these people have that much extra saliva to be spitting around. Are spitters just people who produce too much saliva? Unless i just ate something terrible i couldnt muster up the spit if my life depended on it.

Edmonton PRT · 14-07-2009, 10:17 PM

I agree. It must be related to the bottle water sales or something. Its like a contest, you watch a group of people walk down a street and every third step someone shoots a spit. It must be a Pavlovian reaction.

This is not the horking ones that old men spit into the gutter in the old days but young and old people spitting like they are are chewing tobacco but they are not. Maybe they are snails and are just lubricating the sidewalk with slime to reduce friction.

bicycles · 14-07-2009, 11:51 PM

so where have people seen these? are they just right along jasper ave or have they branched out into the streets off of it as well?

etownboarder · 14-07-2009, 11:52 PM

Apparently because it's only a pilot project, they're on Whyte Ave and Jasper Ave only at the moment... but there is potential for the project to expand if it's a success.

etownboarder · 15-10-2009, 11:38 AM

Edmonton’s anti-butt program deemed a success
BY JOSEPHINE LIM, EDMONTONJOURNAL.COM OCTOBER 15, 2009 11:25 AM

EDMONTON — Edmonton’s two cigarette litter pilot programs this year were a success, the program manager of Capital City Clean Up said Thursday.

Don Belanger said cigarette litter on the streets of Jasper Avenue was reduced by 87 per cent, judging from three locations where it was measured. Ashtray collection along Jasper went from 59 cups of litter in July to 138 cups in August, he said.

The program was launched on Whyte Avenue in January and on Jasper Avenue in July.

Seventy ashtrays were installed along Whyte Avenue from 99th Street to 109th Street, and 122 ashtrays were installed on Jasper Avenue between 97th Street and 109th Street.

Full Story: http://www.edmontonjournal.com/news/...706/story.html

raz0469 · 15-10-2009, 01:52 PM

I think it did do a pretty good job of at least raising awareness. I've noticed that most of my smoking friends are now going out of their way to either find an ashtray or butting out and putting it in a garbage can than they were in the past. A friend was in from Victoria and commented on the signs about the fine with some surprise, to which I responded "is tossing a receipt or gum wrapper littering? Why is a butt any different?" to which he responded "yeah, I guess you're right."

Hopefully they pick up where they left off next spring when the snowbanks melt and we're left with piles of gravel, garbage and butts.

RichardS · 15-10-2009, 02:46 PM

...I'm just hoping they clamp down on butt tossers out of car windows...that shower of sparks may look "cool"...but the fire hazard is amazing...

...I too notice my friends (who still smoke) getting more careful with their cigarette disposal habits while downtown...

Sonic Death Monkey · 15-10-2009, 04:54 PM

Besides using the installed ashtrays on Jasper Ave and Whyte Ave, I gotten into the habit of using the portable ashtray that a Capital City Cleanup person handed out to me this past summer.

28-06-2009, 08:43 PM	#1
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	New Ashtrays on Jasper Ave. I just wanted to give a round of applause to the city for installing new ashtrays along Jasper Avenue with signs above the ashtrays reminding people that there is a $250 fine for throwing butts on the ground. On the block in front of Enterprise Square, there were maybe 6 of them in that one single block. I was very impressed. Thoughts? Comments?

28-06-2009, 08:51 PM	#2
lat Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007	Were they being used? __________________ done.

29-06-2009, 12:48 PM	#7
IanO Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton	great initiative __________________ inspiration or mediocrity www.decl.org Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

29-06-2009, 04:27 PM	#11
IanO Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton	on the same note, i love the new garbage/recycling stations in the LRT stations. We need that on jasper as well.... but obviously more enclosed. __________________ inspiration or mediocrity www.decl.org Ottawa-Edmonton-Vancouver-Edmonton

30-06-2009, 03:29 PM	#20
Sonic Death Monkey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Downtown	The painted signs on the sidewalk are barely visible. __________________ “You have to dream big. If we want to be a little city, we dream small. If we want to be a big city, we dream big, and this is a big idea.” - Mayor Stephen Mandel, 02/22/2012

28-06-2009, 10:21 PM	#3
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	I didn't notice many butts on the ground, maybe only a couple and they looked like they had been there for a while. So yea, I think they must have been used. I think it's a great start. They look cool with the lil signs overtop of them too.

28-06-2009, 10:22 PM	#4
ChrisD Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton, AB	Yes, I've noticed a number of these around the City and they are being used.

29-06-2009, 12:10 PM	#6
DTrobotnik Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: jasper east	finally

29-06-2009, 01:00 PM	#8
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	Yea, you really have to see them to appreciate how great they are. Definitely go take a look at Jasper Ave, especially in front of Enterprise Square and Commerce Place.

29-06-2009, 03:58 PM	#9
Alex.L Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Edmonton	they were installing them today in front of Telus and New City. looks like there's one basically every 20 - 30 ft, which is excellent. I'd like to see these at LRT stations (outside of course), and at bus terminals as well.

29-06-2009, 07:48 PM	#13
ChrisD Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton, AB	Another nice thing about these, is that it will reduce the number of folks scouraging the sidewalk looking for butts to smoke.

29-06-2009, 10:26 PM	#14
blainehamilton Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2008	Put some bylaw cops around with a ticket book for littering fines. I bet they will still be busy... Great to see this in place!

30-06-2009, 10:53 AM	#15
IKAN104 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006	Can anybody snap a pic? I don't get downtown much anymore.

30-06-2009, 11:10 AM	#16
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	I will take a pic on Wednesday.

30-06-2009, 11:20 AM	#17
Gord Lacey Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Strathcona - Mill Creek	Too bad they don't have ashtrays in cars and trucks. I always see people who are "forced" into throwing their butts out the window because they have no place to put them. If only... I haven't seen the ones on Jasper Ave, but I was impressed with the ashtrays on Whyte, and the words stenciled onto the ground pointing to the ashtrays. Though it's likely a waste of time, could we report people in cars that toss the butts out the window? Would that be a police matter, or bylaw (I'm hoping it's not police since I wouldn't even bother them with something like this)? Gord

30-06-2009, 12:37 PM	#18
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	these are also on and around white ave signage has been spray painted on the sidewalks however

30-06-2009, 03:16 PM	#19
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	The little signs should have been posted above them like they are downtown... much more effective IMO.

30-06-2009, 04:31 PM	#21
Blueline Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edmonton	....and the new ashtrays look like cigarettes... It is a start

30-06-2009, 08:12 PM	#22
jstock Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Clareview	I would love to see this progam expanded to cover the entire downtown or at least all the bar districts. __________________ ~~$2.00~~ ~~$2.25~~ ~~$2.50~~ ~~$2.75~~ ~~$2.85~~ ~~$3.00~~ $3.20 Anyone have a dime? Last edited by jstock; 01-07-2009 at 07:38 AM.. Reason: Removed the "v"

01-07-2009, 08:54 AM	#24
IKAN104 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006	The picture's not showing up. When I paste the url to the pic in another tab I get "unauthorized".

01-07-2009, 08:56 AM	#25
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	I'll try to fix it. I post so few pics on here that I take that I always forget how to do it properly.

01-07-2009, 09:14 AM	#26
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	Does it work now? Let me know...

01-07-2009, 10:08 AM	#27
ChrisD Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Edmonton, AB	Nope...

01-07-2009, 10:08 AM	#28
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	WTF? I can see it. Oh well... I give up for today. I wish we could just upload pictures to the site directly. So much easier.

09-07-2009, 03:46 PM	#29
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona	City tells smokers where to put their butts Last Updated: Thursday, July 9, 2009 \| 2:13 PM MT CBC News City officials hope new ashtrays like this one will help keep cigarette butts off sidewalks. (CBC) The City of Edmonton wants smokers to keep their butts off sidewalks. The city launched two pilot projects on Thursday that include a public education campaign and providing more street ashtrays. Street teams, comprised of students hired for the summer, will hand out pocket ashtrays to smokers on Jasper Avenue downtown and on Whyte Avenue in Old Strathcona. "It's part of keeping our city clean because as you all know we've had a lot of criticism about the litter on the streets … cigarette butts are 36 per cent of all the litter on our streets," Coun. Jane Batty said. Full Story: http://www.cbc.ca/canada/edmonton/st...tte-butts.html

09-07-2009, 03:47 PM	#30
etownboarder Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Old Strathcona

09-07-2009, 04:29 PM	#31
IKAN104 Addicted to C2E Join Date: Mar 2006	Oh, they look cool. Thanks for the pics.

09-07-2009, 04:43 PM	#33
Medwards Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Edmonton	the biggest cost is making them bum proof I'm sure...

09-07-2009, 06:40 PM	#34
noodle Addicted to C2E Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Oliver	Yeah, vandalproofed anything is expensive. I took a close look at one and was really impressed with the design and workmanship. I think they'll hold up well. I'd sooner pay $150 once than $25 every 3 months until the program gets cut in a budget crisis and we're back where we were. __________________ www.amokphoto.ca

10-07-2009, 03:18 PM	#35
Montrosian Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Montrose	I hope these ashtrays get emptied on a regular basis. If they do then it's a slam dunk for sure

10-07-2009, 04:34 PM	#36
Edmontonfan Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Edmonton	Are they weather proof? Otherwise the stench of soggy smokes will be horrible! __________________ Edmontonian and proud of it!

14-07-2009, 12:17 AM	#37
Edmonton PRT Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	Now we just need those antique spittoons and gum receptacles. What`s with all this spitting anyway, it is like a fashion statement these days. The postman does it, women do it, people spit before getting into a car and as soon as they get out. Is it related to water bottles, like some spit hydration therapy. A truly disgusting habit. __________________ Advocating a better Edmonton through effective, efficient and economical transit.

14-07-2009, 08:31 AM	#38
RTA Addicted to C2E Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Holyrood	The worst is when people spit on the floor of the bus. The bus! The same one they're riding in! I don't get it. __________________ Strathcona City Separatist

14-07-2009, 06:02 PM	#39
MylesC Addicted to C2E Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Los Angeles; Athens	As I predicted, it seems most smokers are still too lazy to use the one in front of my building. The Cambridge bus stop is still always littered with butts everwhere even though a butt stop is three feet away. __________________ LA today, Athens tomorrow. I miss E-town.

14-07-2009, 10:17 PM	#41
Edmonton PRT Addicted to C2E Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Edmonton, Alberta	I agree. It must be related to the bottle water sales or something. Its like a contest, you watch a group of people walk down a street and every third step someone shoots a spit. It must be a Pavlovian reaction. This is not the horking ones that old men spit into the gutter in the old days but young and old people spitting like they are are chewing tobacco but they are not. Maybe they are snails and are just lubricating the sidewalk with slime to reduce friction. __________________ Advocating a better Edmonton through effective, efficient and economical transit.