So how much is TOO much in terms of High Maintence woman? - Page 2

ctzn-Ed · 18-08-2012, 10:25 PM

Furthermore Ashetsen, men that prostitute themselves gets the same sentiments from me as the woman. Sexuality is based on love or agreement from two parties; monetary value should not even enter this equation period! That is why it is called prostitution- a favor to gain a favor!

AShetsen · 19-08-2012, 06:05 PM

Sexuality is based on whatever gets two people mutually hot. If you object to money as igniting fuel, so be it. You missed my point anyway.

You can have all the sex you want, live together all you want, have, raise, and nurture children all you want, without getting married. If you are committed enough to stay together, I'll take your word for it and wish you well.

What you need the certificate for is as a further guarantee that your interests will be taken into account should you and your partner decide to split.

This makes marriage an implicitly financial arrangement first and foremost.

And the other thing marriage does is to cement two people's interests together because they have agreed to do so. Well, the only way to keep your interest is to pay for it -- and thus the ante of a common wallet.

Without it marriage just lacks the necessary incentive and in nothing more than a meaningless formality, since all the other things you value so highly can be had just as easily and just as heart-wrenchingly deeply without getting an authorized marriage-broker involved.

ctzn-Ed · 19-08-2012, 08:49 PM

I respect your opinion regarding the religious factor, but your connotation regarding that somehow my marriage is of lesser value is so niave and at most, laughable. You do realize common law is just as relevant as constituional union in the eyes of the legal ideology right? This law became legalled in the early 90's. That means, on a hypothetical scennario, if my wife and i go our separate ways, she is entiled to half of our assets even though my earnings supercede hers; and i certainly would oblige to that for the fact that we united together to achieve this goal. Once again, your explanation and point of view- from what i gather- has " gold digging innuendos." That is moral issue and different to everyone. I conduct myself with pride, dignity, honesty, and integrity for the one reason: Carma...

Chmilz · 19-08-2012, 09:41 PM

AShetsen, so how do you explain marriage with prenuptial agreements? If people only marry so they can get half of someone's stuff when they divorce (seeing as how everyone marries for money, they must be surely be planning to divorce), then why would they do it if there's no financial incentive?

AShetsen · 19-08-2012, 10:31 PM

Pre-nuptial agreements when then are made are impossible without a marriage certificate. Actually their existence only goes to show that the people making them think of marriage as primarily a mutually-beneficial financial arrangement and are taking steps to protect their investment of things go sour. Pre-nups work for what I'm arguing, not against it.

Chmilz · 20-08-2012, 09:05 AM

^Not quite. Your logic would dictate that when a prenuptial agreement is proposed, the marriage would be broken off since someone loses financial gain. If it's not beneficial for one party, then it's not mutually beneficial. If it's not mutually beneficial, your argument fails.

Cardinal Fang · 04-09-2012, 08:06 PM

Maybe she is not as high maintenance as I thought. She actually pulled out her wallet and paid on 3 different occasions all in one weekend!

Chmilz · 06-09-2012, 02:22 PM

Maybe she read C2E!

19-08-2012, 08:49 PM	#103
ctzn-Ed Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2009	I respect your opinion regarding the religious factor, but your connotation regarding that somehow my marriage is of lesser value is so niave and at most, laughable. You do realize common law is just as relevant as constituional union in the eyes of the legal ideology right? This law became legalled in the early 90's. That means, on a hypothetical scennario, if my wife and i go our separate ways, she is entiled to half of our assets even though my earnings supercede hers; and i certainly would oblige to that for the fact that we united together to achieve this goal. Once again, your explanation and point of view- from what i gather- has " gold digging innuendos." That is moral issue and different to everyone. I conduct myself with pride, dignity, honesty, and integrity for the one reason: Carma... Last edited by ctzn-Ed; 19-08-2012 at 08:59 PM..

19-08-2012, 09:41 PM	#104
Chmilz Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2009	AShetsen, so how do you explain marriage with prenuptial agreements? If people only marry so they can get half of someone's stuff when they divorce (seeing as how everyone marries for money, they must be surely be planning to divorce), then why would they do it if there's no financial incentive? __________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

20-08-2012, 09:05 AM	#106
Chmilz Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2009	^Not quite. Your logic would dictate that when a prenuptial agreement is proposed, the marriage would be broken off since someone loses financial gain. If it's not beneficial for one party, then it's not mutually beneficial. If it's not mutually beneficial, your argument fails. __________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

04-09-2012, 08:06 PM	#107
Cardinal Fang Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: teh city of gold	Maybe she is not as high maintenance as I thought. She actually pulled out her wallet and paid on 3 different occasions all in one weekend! __________________ Nonviolence is an excuse for not struggling. To not act, to not do anything or to not do as much as you can do is violent, is criminal, is complicity. Symbionese Liberation Army

06-09-2012, 02:22 PM	#108
Chmilz Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2009	Maybe she read C2E! __________________ "Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction" - Blaise Pascal

18-08-2012, 10:25 PM	#101
ctzn-Ed Addicted to C2E Join Date: Jan 2009	Furthermore Ashetsen, men that prostitute themselves gets the same sentiments from me as the woman. Sexuality is based on love or agreement from two parties; monetary value should not even enter this equation period! That is why it is called prostitution- a favor to gain a favor!

19-08-2012, 06:05 PM	#102
AShetsen Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2012	Sexuality is based on whatever gets two people mutually hot. If you object to money as igniting fuel, so be it. You missed my point anyway. You can have all the sex you want, live together all you want, have, raise, and nurture children all you want, without getting married. If you are committed enough to stay together, I'll take your word for it and wish you well. What you need the certificate for is as a further guarantee that your interests will be taken into account should you and your partner decide to split. This makes marriage an implicitly financial arrangement first and foremost. And the other thing marriage does is to cement two people's interests together because they have agreed to do so. Well, the only way to keep your interest is to pay for it -- and thus the ante of a common wallet. Without it marriage just lacks the necessary incentive and in nothing more than a meaningless formality, since all the other things you value so highly can be had just as easily and just as heart-wrenchingly deeply without getting an authorized marriage-broker involved.

19-08-2012, 10:31 PM	#105
AShetsen Addicted to C2E Join Date: May 2012	Pre-nuptial agreements when then are made are impossible without a marriage certificate. Actually their existence only goes to show that the people making them think of marriage as primarily a mutually-beneficial financial arrangement and are taking steps to protect their investment of things go sour. Pre-nups work for what I'm arguing, not against it.