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Old 16-03-2015, 03:44 PM   #2301
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KLM has decided to cancel their flights to YEG for all of May. I'm sure an announcement coming.
Do you have a source for this?
KLM website is showing the first direct flight on May 19 instead of May 05.

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^which would represent the delay.
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Old 16-03-2015, 04:44 PM   #2303
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Odd... curious to know why.
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Labour dispute with the cabin crew unions.
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Old 18-03-2015, 05:50 PM   #2305
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The new flights — Monday, Tuesday and Wednesday — mean First Air will fly between the two cities nine times each week.
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American Airlines continues to roll out planned Embraer E175 operations out of Los Angeles, during recent schedule updates. From May 2015, E175 will serve 2 additional markets, followed by service to Canada from June 2015.


Los Angeles – Edmonton 04JUN15 – 02JUL15 1 daily
AA5904 LAX1720 – 2133YEG E75 D
AA5905 YEG0835 – 1114LAX E75 D
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Old 30-03-2015, 07:45 AM   #2307
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Seems like a small seat increase and a better plane.
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Old 30-03-2015, 09:08 AM   #2308
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Marginally better in economy seats, but from what I hear, arguably worse in business. The E-Jets primary advantage is in the size range of the jet family, not really in the cabin. (Their disadvantage being operating costs.) The decision is likely because AA's LA hub concept needs the capacity of E190s on other routes, which are crew and maintenance compatible with these E175s, but likely not really to get a selling point.
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Old 30-03-2015, 09:19 AM   #2309
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^Frankly, the ERJ 175 is a much more comfortable plane than the CRJ900. Plus it will be a newer plane. Those CRJ900s are old Mesa airways planes. I think the number of seats is more or less the same.
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Old 30-03-2015, 09:24 AM   #2310
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^ I'm not talking about the capacity of CRJ9 versus E175.

I'm talking about the capacity range of AA's CRJ fleet versus AA's E-Jet fleet.
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Old 31-03-2015, 07:16 PM   #2311
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CALGARY, March 31, 2015 /CNW/ - WestJet President and CEO Gregg Saretsky today announced the resignation of Vito Culmone, Chief Financial Officer and Executive Vice-President, Finance, effective May 29, 2015. Vito will be joining another Calgary-based organization in a similar capacity.


Read more at http://www.stockhouse.com/news/press...m5qf4YLrG2c.99

The last sentence is interesting.
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:43 PM   #2312
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I don't think it means airline, just CFO, but it does stick out as a weird thing to say in a press release. Almost as if it reads "don't worry, he's still one of 'us'".
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:43 AM   #2313
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Probably disagreed in the direction WestJet is now going. WestJet, we want to be Air Canada. Personally I wish they went back to the Southwest model. It works for the passenger.

I wonder if this sort of news announcement will happen next year, I'm beginning to doubt it. ...
April 1 Alert: WestJet announces SmartSeats
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Old 01-04-2015, 08:54 AM   #2314
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I doubt it too, what's the date today????
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Old 01-04-2015, 09:43 AM   #2315
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What I meant that WestJet is becoming so corporate that next year they'll probably do nothing and forget that sometimes having fun can be good for business and the passengers.
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Old 20-04-2015, 01:38 PM   #2316
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They have taken up residence in the new Airocentre 2 hanger.
http://flysummitair.com/locations/
I saw them hauling one of their Avro RJ85s into the hanger yesterday.
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Old 21-04-2015, 07:33 AM   #2317
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Default Integra Air takes flight in Bonnyville to YYC

A little frustrating to read comments like this:

“I know if there is one issue that crops up time and time again it is the access to destinations and the inconvenience of the Edmonton International Airport,” said Sobolewski. “With this service they are looking to make it very convenient and are offering other excursions and escapes. I find that very refreshing."

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Old 21-04-2015, 01:05 PM   #2318
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What I find irritating about the statement is the lack of knowledge about flights from YEG.

Sunwing just wrapped up it's largest winter schedule from YEG and is still operating to many over the summer. KLM is arriving shortly, Icelandair (who has a great fare structure) etc...

I'll be surprised if this route last very long.
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Old 21-04-2015, 01:21 PM   #2319
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There is a Red Arrow Bus connection to EIA from Bonnyville that will last longer.
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Old 21-04-2015, 01:39 PM   #2320
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Sobolewski and Integra were both very vocal about the closure of CCA.
Interview with Gene Sobolewski - City of Bonnyville Town Councillor ...
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Interview with Gene Sobolewski - City of Bonnyville Town Councillor. ... was shocked to hear ...
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Old 21-04-2015, 01:48 PM   #2321
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What I find irritating about the statement is the lack of knowledge about flights from YEG.

Sunwing just wrapped up it's largest winter schedule from YEG and is still operating to many over the summer. KLM is arriving shortly, Icelandair (who has a great fare structure) etc...

I'll be surprised if this route last very long.
Route won't last longer than a week. Bonnyville and Cold Lake are dead now. Plus CNRL and Esso both charter their own planes into both towns....so NO need for commercial service...unless it is on one of their 6 seater King Airs.........
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Bonnyville didn't have flights to YXD anyways.

He isn't only about stopping the closure, but about reopening commercial flights through YXD.

If we did that, no way we get Icelandair and KLM. Probably wouldn't have LHR either, as we see AC's true colours.

Regardless how the flight in question goes, if I am forced to pick either a King Air to Bonnyville versus widebodies to 3 cities in Europe, it is absolutely no offense intended to anyone, but...
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Old 21-04-2015, 05:22 PM   #2323
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Cold Lake is the bigger centre and where the military and action is. Bonnyville is not much of anything...and with that kind of attitude from Mayor and Council about Edmonton it isn't worth stoping by except to take a p when going through.
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Old 21-04-2015, 05:46 PM   #2324
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Yup, I think this mayor still has a hard on about a long dead issue... He's basically all for YEG hurting and promoting YYC. Oh well that 8 seat Kingair 200 can't be a very good sign already down gauged from a 16 seat Jetstream.
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Old 21-04-2015, 08:00 PM   #2325
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If the CCA was still open, how much hype do you think the Wildrose would make about trying to keep it open?
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If the CCA was still open, how much hype do you think the Wildrose would make about trying to keep it open?
Not sure about Wildrose but you know where PC Candidate Tony Caterina stands on this issue.
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Old 22-04-2015, 02:16 PM   #2327
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If the CCA was still open, how much hype do you think the Wildrose would make about trying to keep it open?
Not sure about Wildrose but you know where PC Candidate Tony Caterina stands on this issue.
Too bad he does not have to resign from Council to run for MLA. I think they should have to resign.
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Old 22-04-2015, 03:24 PM   #2328
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tuffyy on SSP says a 787 is coming to YEG.....

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This is probably true. Thompson flew 787's twice weekly to Puerto Vallarta this past winter from Gatwick and Manchester, respectively.
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Looks like YEG may get it's first ski charters to Jasper this winter courtesy of Thompson airways who plans to operate a weekly 787-8 to YEG from LGW,in addition I'm hearing they will operate twice weekly to YYC from December-April. Details to follow!
I wonder if it would be possible to book a "flight-only"option YEG-LGW-YEG? I will check the Thompson Airways website.
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This is probably true. Thompson flew 787's twice weekly to Puerto Vallarta this past winter from Gatwick and Manchester, respectively.
In respect to what? Did they alternate between airports?
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It was a twice-weekly flight, yes, using alternate airports.
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The 787 is nothing to look forward to if you're planning to fly economy. The economy cabin is the worst in the business. The carriers all are configuring them 9 abreast instead of the manufacturer recommended 8. I flew BA and the legroom was incredibly bad. Worse than what you would get on a domestic flight on a WJ 737 and for a 7 hour flight. Nice plane but absolutely ruined by the need to profit at all costs. I would not consider an economy fare on one again.
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Old 05-05-2015, 08:46 AM   #2334
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We desperatley need more compeittion, isn't it funny how baggage fees have gone up, oil prices have gone down, and air fares have stayed the same? Actually, it isn't funny, just companies making big bucks (although in fairness, have had years of tough times):

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U.S. Airways may shut down.
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Just disappearing into American Airlines is all.
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Just part of the merger that is already in the final stages.

As of about 2 weeks ago US Airways flight numbers have all switched to AA flight numbers.

US 584 to YEG from PHX is now AA 584 and most of the time the flights are now operated on AA painted aircraft.
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Air Transat is adding flights from Edmonton to Ixtapa, Cozumel and Santa Clara.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1538...eased-capacity
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Air Transat is adding flights from Edmonton to Ixtapa, Cozumel and Santa Clara.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1538...eased-capacity
As pointed out on SSP - these flights are connectors to and from Calgary thus a milk run...and the hassle of clearing Customs in Calgary.
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Air Transat is adding flights from Edmonton to Ixtapa, Cozumel and Santa Clara.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1538...eased-capacity
As pointed out on SSP - these flights are connectors to and from Calgary thus a milk run...and the hassle of clearing Customs in Calgary.
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Air Transat is adding flights from Edmonton to Ixtapa, Cozumel and Santa Clara.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1538...eased-capacity
As pointed out on SSP - these flights are connectors to and from Calgary thus a milk run...and the hassle of clearing Customs in Calgary.
You would clear customs in Edmonton.
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Air Transat is adding flights from Edmonton to Ixtapa, Cozumel and Santa Clara.

http://www.newswire.ca/en/story/1538...eased-capacity
As pointed out on SSP - these flights are connectors to and from Calgary thus a milk run...and the hassle of clearing Customs in Calgary.
You would clear customs in Edmonton.
Still a milk run through YYC. Adds a good hour to and fro and likely more like 90 minutes....assuming there are no delays. It is not a 15 minute put stop....luggage has to be loaded and unloaded and **** happens...passengers don't show at the gate..."last call for Mr. Jones at Gate 54". Personally non-stop is the ONLY way to go.
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^Agreed. It makes Edmonton so '2nd tier'.
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Makes some sense that this would have a bit of a negative affect on YEG as well:

YMM - "There were 40% fewer passengers on charter flights in April (12,453), compared to the same period a year ago (20,686); and 9% fewer passengers on commercial flights (81,071), compared to the same period a year ago (81,418 )."

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^Agreed. It makes Edmonton so '2nd tier'.
I've never minded when an airplane "touches down", picks up some passengers (where-ever), and then takes off again (if that's what this is). I remember years ago had that flying to Vancouver on West Jet, made a touch down stop in Kelowna. It was actually quite pretty and added little time to the flight. It can go both ways as well, no reason why a flight from YYC to Europe might not make a brief touch down at YEG. I'd like to see more of this, gives more options to everyone, and it perhaps means some more marginal flights become viable adding extra population.
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^^
As I also mentioned a few posts earlier which correlates with that article. It also has an affect on our airport as many Canadians and Americans were using our airport as a hub for the FBO fligts to Ft. Mac- which also saw a pretty decent decline. I'm still convinced that the Saudi's output is due to the America's input to disrupt Russia's economy- sanction if you want to call it. It is just a discrete method without any blames, and it is working very affectively. If the Saudi was so concerned with their dominance, they would have had their taps turned up when the oil sands commenced around 2000ish to deter developments. Oil will go up again as India is heating up, and with 1.4 billion population- same as China, they will be hungry for it.
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Noted with interest a radio ad on an Edmonton station last week advertising Emirates' twice daily non-stop service from Seattle to Dubai.
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Twice daily? If cheap enough that ought to kill at least one AC to LHR flight each day and bleed BA as well. Once you get through the border hassles, SEA is an easy airport to fly out of.
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Twice daily? If cheap enough that ought to kill at least one AC to LHR flight each day and bleed BA as well. Once you get through the border hassles, SEA is an easy airport to fly out of.
Great! How does that help with Air Service Development at YEG? Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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Emirates run a tidy operation, but unless one flies to the Gulf area itself, any success they have to this part of the world is not only testament to incompetence in nearer distance gateways (see AC), but likely to be temporary, once said nearers get their acts together. Even economies of scale and clean-sheet efficiencies go only so far between spherically opposite locations.

Long term I see them what they were short term - a gateway between Europe, Africa, Asia.
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Great! How does that help with Air Service Development at YEG? Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
It doesn't help at all, other than Alaska Airlines perhaps upgrading their Q400's to 737's on their Edmonton-Seattle leg. I perceive the Emirates ads as a potential threat to the unparalleled non-stop service we currently enjoy to three different European gateways; hopefully not a serious threat. The point is that it's not only Cowtown that is competing for international travellers originating from the Edmonton region....
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Great! How does that help with Air Service Development at YEG? Sounds like cutting off your nose to spite your face.
It doesn't help at all, other than Alaska Airlines perhaps upgrading their Q400's to 737's on their Edmonton-Seattle leg. I perceive the Emirates ads as a potential threat to the unparalleled non-stop service we currently enjoy to three different European gateways; hopefully not a serious threat. The point is that it's not only Cowtown that is competing for international travellers originating from the Edmonton region....
I have lobbied Horizon/Alaska for years to upgrade to a 737 - I always get the same repsonse - "we are always assessing their routes....etc, etc."
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Flew to Dubai last summer. It was cheaper to fly AC to London and then Emirates to Dubai than it was to fly Alaska to Seattle and then Emirates to Dubai.
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Air Canada adds new flights from Calgary to London-Gatwick as WestJet heats up competition

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^No, they're adding Toronto-Gatwick.
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Speaking of that airline, noticed how obsolete they are at the airport? What a shame!
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Old 26-06-2015, 01:17 PM   #2359
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As per tuffyy on SSP:

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Icelandair will increase its winter capacity from YEG to 5X weekly, and likely will go daily next spring.

KLM as mentioned earlier.

WS is expected to add 3x weekly YEG-LGW starting in May 2016.

AC let's see?
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So what did he mention about KLM earlier?
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He said it would go daily next summer.
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http://www.calgaryherald.com/Canada+...065/story.html
No problem getting metal for this competition fueled route.

Excuses like lack of metal ring shallow for me when it comes to YEG routing by Air Canada.

If they cared and its important to them they will find a plane.
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Icelandair will increase its winter capacity from YEG to 5X weekly, and likely will go daily next spring.

KLM as mentioned earlier.

WS is expected to add 3x weekly YEG-LGW starting in May 2016.

AC let's see?
That would be nice.
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Icelandair will increase its winter capacity from YEG to 5X weekly, and likely will go daily next spring.

KLM as mentioned earlier.

WS is expected to add 3x weekly YEG-LGW starting in May 2016.

AC let's see?
Good guess on my part.
http://www.connect2edmonton.ca/forum...reply&p=692182
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Not to doubt tuffyy's knowledge nor Glenco's soothsaying, but Westjet has only rarely given Edmonton the same timing as Calgary.

Hope so because:
  1. London
  2. easyJet at Gatwick

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As much as we like to complain about AC Air Transat did not do us any favours with their on again off again seasonal service to Europe. I guess it will be permanently off now.
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Hopefully, the same will happen to *** Canada. Off permanently!
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Agreed Air Transat have done us no favours, but to me that they've never been tax funded, let alone tax-created and tax-bailed-out tax-repeatedly does fairly imply a different mandate to me. I'd be very happy with Sunwing instead, if only they had about 10% longer range aircraft (such as CSeries) to avoid refuelling.

For actual transatlantic service (which Sunwing can't really do without major fleet investment), I'm much happier with the scheduled service we now have with the two lowest cost scheduled operators to their huge numbers of destinations than I would be with a typical deployment of charter destinations.

Really hope tuffyy and Glenco's gut are right about Westjet. At that point, nothing left to want over that ocean.
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We certainly have Europe well represented; Let's hope for similar fruition to Asia. The population destined to there makes this a no brainer IMHO. Two destinations can certainly be supported there, and what ever can be coveted after that, it is a bonus- knock on wood!
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One with a hub and I'd be done to Asia.
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I'm for any hub or major Centre with abundance of connections. A major I ternationlly recognize location like Honking or Tokyo would be superb, but be a non hub city, we may have to go through the back door like Guang Zhou city.
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Would love to see a billboard sign in Edmonton one day saying: "Edmonton to New Delhi -> Direct Non Stop"
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KLM flight deal to London via Amsterdam right now, $1089 for Sep/Oct travel. That's not a bad deal, but what is significant is this is $200 cheaper than same Calgary flight deal (around $1300).

https://www.klm.com/travel/ca_en/pla...gger_SeasonHPL
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I'm for any hub or major Centre with abundance of connections. A major I ternationlly recognize location like Honking or Tokyo would be superb, but be a non hub city, we may have to go through the back door like Guang Zhou city.
HK or Singapore
Singapore would make no sense as a connecting place geographically.
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I just want a direct there.

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